Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[BFG]

 

 

 

Read the OP Tab, it says there are 4 mafia, no one of them were recruiters, so how can there be 1 left.

 

I don't know, you're right. He could be being tricky, that there were four when the game STARTED.

 

Nobody flipped recruiter though, really don't like the wifom you're trying to introduce here.

 

 

I was putting the question out there, I asked my mentor and he said it is possible there are still mafia kills.

 

To be fair it was actually Lenlo who introduced the idea

 

Doesn't matter though

[BFG]

This is tricky and not tricky at the same time

 

Tabor is Loki I have absolutely no doubts.

 

Mish was very vocal against Wishleste (in particular), Lenlo was very vocal against Eldrick. I don't see Loki drawing attention to themselves that way when the mafia NK was seemingly unaffected by the randomness that everyone else was.

 

That leaves Talya and Tabor and of the two Talya got 'dirtier'. I'm not sure what the right word is here, but the early argument with Leelou springs to mind as a place where Talya doesn't care about how she looks and just in getting dug in. The way she's constantly sussing me feels 'towny'.

 

But bluntly this is all conf bias now.

 

Last night Tabor was Tress's only visitor.

[Taborline]

This is tricky and not tricky at the same time

 

Tabor is Loki I have absolutely no doubts.

 

Mish was very vocal against Wishleste (in particular), Lenlo was very vocal against Eldrick. I don't see Loki drawing attention to themselves that way when the mafia NK was seemingly unaffected by the randomness that everyone else was.

 

That leaves Talya and Tabor and of the two Talya got 'dirtier'. I'm not sure what the right word is here, but the early argument with Leelou springs to mind as a place where Talya doesn't care about how she looks and just in getting dug in. The way she's constantly sussing me feels 'towny'.

 

But bluntly this is all conf bias now.

 

Last night Tabor was Tress's only visitor.

 

You can rely on that as much as you want, but you're not telling the truth.

[BFG]

 

This is tricky and not tricky at the same time

 

Tabor is Loki I have absolutely no doubts.

 

Mish was very vocal against Wishleste (in particular), Lenlo was very vocal against Eldrick. I don't see Loki drawing attention to themselves that way when the mafia NK was seemingly unaffected by the randomness that everyone else was.

 

That leaves Talya and Tabor and of the two Talya got 'dirtier'. I'm not sure what the right word is here, but the early argument with Leelou springs to mind as a place where Talya doesn't care about how she looks and just in getting dug in. The way she's constantly sussing me feels 'towny'.

 

But bluntly this is all conf bias now.

 

Last night Tabor was Tress's only visitor.

 

You can rely on that as much as you want, but you're not telling the truth.

 

I'm not 'relying' on that, but so far all you're defending with is that I'm 'not telling the truth'

[Taborline]

Because when someone flatout lies in a thread, it's something to talk about.

[michellem]

Careful with the votes. We only need 3 so let's try to not accidentally lynch someone...

 

Votes for pressure won't help much at this point.

 

 

I targeted BFG last night. Didn't get anything this night either.

 

 

It's down to BFG or Tab for me. I'll be more on tomorrow hopefully.

[BFG]

Personal update:

 

The water has retreated so tomorrow starts the process of cleaning up the restaurant. Doing inventory of everything damaged, put in storage everything that can still be used, clean up as much as possible and make it ready for the renovation crews. Gonna be hard work, so good thing I spent today resting! Errr. Or maybe I went for a walk for 11km/7miles walk. Smartass

Happy to hear that work can begin :) fingers crossed it goes smoothly!

[BFG]

Because when someone flatout lies in a thread, it's something to talk about.

Like I said it's a better reaction than Eldricks

[BFG]

Careful with the votes. We only need 3 so let's try to not accidentally lynch someone...

 

Votes for pressure won't help much at this point.

 

 

I targeted BFG last night. Didn't get anything this night either.

 

 

It's down to BFG or Tab for me. I'll be more on tomorrow hopefully.

I'm ok with this. My play's been horribly weak this game :/

 

I don't really have much more to add at this stage, my vote's not changing

 

I still think that the idea that Loki is out of the night pool actions bears weight, and currently Tabor is the only one to not receive a result. She's been less 'vocal' in thread than the rest of you.

 

 

 

And she killed Tress </3

 

 

 

Honestly most of my notes on her are that she isn't mafia as her voting pattern doesn't work if she is.

[Lenlo]

I say Tab is it.

[BFG]

I say Tab is it.

:)

[michellem]

I say Tab is it.

 

But if it isn't. If she's just a bad and unlucky townie. What then? I want you, BFG and Talya to answer that for me please. On the chance it's not her I sitll want information out of this day.

[BFG]

 

I say Tab is it.

 

But if it isn't. If she's just a bad and unlucky townie. What then? I want you, BFG and Talya to answer that for me please. On the chance it's not her I sitll want information out of this day.

 

I'm not sure how I can answer this. Tabor claims to have submitted no name last night but I saw her visit Tress. I don't see any scenario here other than her flipping Loki.

[Kivam]

VOTE COUNT

 

Taborline (1) - BFG

BFG (1) - Taborline

 

3 to lynch

[michellem]

 

 

I say Tab is it.

 

But if it isn't. If she's just a bad and unlucky townie. What then? I want you, BFG and Talya to answer that for me please. On the chance it's not her I sitll want information out of this day.

 

I'm not sure how I can answer this. Tabor claims to have submitted no name last night but I saw her visit Tress. I don't see any scenario here other than her flipping Loki.

 

 

But hopethetically, who else would you look at?

[Talya]

BFG how can you say what you have been given? You seem to be the only one who has been allowed to say something. Also you keep saying you are not looking at night actions as it leaves you in a spin, and yet you are going by what you received last night?

[BFG]

 

 

 

I say Tab is it.

 

But if it isn't. If she's just a bad and unlucky townie. What then? I want you, BFG and Talya to answer that for me please. On the chance it's not her I sitll want information out of this day.

 

I'm not sure how I can answer this. Tabor claims to have submitted no name last night but I saw her visit Tress. I don't see any scenario here other than her flipping Loki.

 

 

But hopethetically, who else would you look at?

 

Hypothetically I'd cry

 

The only other Loki equity I had was on Lenlo for the Survivor/SK conversation Day 2 since calling Loki survivor seemed TMI on the kill front, but since Loki clearly has a kill that's null and void.

 

Lenlo has just seemed incredibly townie pretty much every day and more so recently, I don't think I ever tinfoil here.

 

You and Talya are trickier, I know I can't read Talya very well and I don't think I've ever seen you as anything other than town, so can't be confident that I read you well either.

 

I'm probably ~more likely to tinfoil on Talya than you (as I said previously you (and Lenlo) have been very vocal about mafia lynches), but I'd need to ISO in depth first and I genuinely don't think it's necessary.

[Talya]

 

 

I say Tab is it.

 But if it isn't. If she's just a bad and unlucky townie. What then? I want you, BFG and Talya to answer that for me please. On the chance it's not her I sitll want information out of this day.

I'm not sure how I can answer this. Tabor claims to have submitted no name last night but I saw her visit Tress. I don't see any scenario here other than her flipping Loki.

This to me reads that you know your role and you got a result on it...how does that work? Especially when no one knows their role

[BFG]

BFG how can you say what you have been given? You seem to be the only one who has been allowed to say something. Also you keep saying you are not looking at night actions as it leaves you in a spin, and yet you are going by what you received last night?

I don't know the setup of this game so I don't *know why I can share results.

 

My best guess is that people can't share the 'first' result they're given and at the moment I'm the only living player to receive more than one result. But I don't know. I also don't know why I've gotten the watcher result 3 nights running, seems improbable :/

 

I'm trying not to think too hard about how roles, targets and results are being distributed as I don't know enough, but that's separate to trusting the results I have. For example Night 4 nobody admitted to targetting Snow, yet I got a result on him. So are the names we submit arbitrary or was someone lying?

 

I trust the result I had, this isn't a bastard game, and of course that's influencing my reads, but that's not the only reason I'm voting Tabor, I would have been voting Tabor regardless. I've thought since I subbed in that night action results could be used to POE Loki, and I think they did. Beyond that I'm stuck, her play has left her obviously not mafia, and I can't build a 'case' the way I could have on Eldrick if it had been necessary, but her game has been very 'clean' imo. I feel the rest of you have drawn more attention to yourself than she has /shrug

[BFG]

 

 

 

I say Tab is it.

 But if it isn't. If she's just a bad and unlucky townie. What then? I want you, BFG and Talya to answer that for me please. On the chance it's not her I sitll want information out of this day.

 

I'm not sure how I can answer this. Tabor claims to have submitted no name last night but I saw her visit Tress. I don't see any scenario here other than her flipping Loki.

 

This to me reads that you know your role and you got a result on it...how does that work? Especially when no one knows their role

 

Again, I'm not sure what you mean here?

 

I don't know my role but last night the result I had was that Tress had one visitor; Tabor...

[Lenlo]

If tab doesn't flip Loki, and which is unlikely, I'd probably go BFG Mish.

[Lenlo]

I just noticed, that freakin text. Yuck.

 

If Tab isnt Loki, which I find unlikely, I would move to BFG.

 

At the moment I feel comfortable believing BFG about this Tab thing. We doubt there are any other scum, and even if there was they would want Loki dead to. Loki could only pull this play once and expect to live imo, so if she was Loki I think she would have saved a play like this till there were only 3 of us left. That leaves only BFG being town and town has no reason to lie unless they are Mynd.

[Kivam]

VOTE COUNT

 

Taborline (1) - BFG

BFG (1) - Taborline

 

3 to lynch

[Kivam]

Please don't make me set another deadline

[Lenlo]

Screw it

[v] Tab[/v]