Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Celeste]

 

 

Let's break down Ocicat's progress.

 

1. Comes on around 11:33pm. A bit of fluff.

2.  1 hour later snow jokes about modkilling a player that isn't on the roster.

3. Ocicat is lurking therefore he sees it right away and responds:

 

 

I don't know about norms and what's off for people here, but making judgments about that already feels off to me.

 

PLS LINK ME TO SPEC THREAD KIVAM THANK YOU

 

MODSMODSMODSMODS

 

He edited his post. Modkill him. 

 

 

And I'll assume this is a joke, but kinda aggressive, no?

Vote: John Snow

 

4. He knows he should engage in the game at this point. Therefore his first game related post is very flaccid and forced. He makes no attempt to read anyone else. He construes an uninformative post as meaningful in order to make content. I insist that there were other posts to pick a part.

5. He goes away/to sleep after making one game related post. He has not been on since. If the above fos directed at snow was in fact a meta-vote, then two questions: 1. why didn't he meta-vote someone over a better reason in the first hour of play; 2, why hasn't he followed up in the last 15 hours?

I have played with Ocicat before and he comes in with points but posts when he has things to say. It's easier to tell his alignment when you put pressure on him.

 

In regards to number 5, there is a lot to comment on at present.

 

He possibly doesn't think that it is something he can comment on. It's weird and selective a bit but I agree that he should post more.

[Sili Quirrels]

@Cory: why was ocicat an easy target?

 

@Celeste: this is a bit tmi on your part. why are you defending ocicat from fair prosecution? in your mind his lurking is null? but I have fos'd him severely since last night. and in comparison to john snow's post there is definitely a lot else to talk about if he was so inclined.

[Celeste]

*snipped*

 

@Celeste: this is a bit tmi on your part. why are you defending ocicat from fair prosecution? in your mind his lurking is null? but I have fos'd him severely since last night. and in comparison to john snow's post there is definitely a lot else to talk about if he was so inclined.

Trying to understand your points with what I know. 

[keyholder21]

@Celeste - if it's easier to tell his alignment when he's pressured, why would you give him an out right now vs. Putting more pressure on him?

[Celeste]

@Celeste - if it's easier to tell his alignment when he's pressured, why would you give him an out right now vs. Putting more pressure on him?

Sometimes I realize what I say after I say it.  I am also trying to read Sili.

[Lenlo]

Sili Quirrels 64 John Snow 45 Leelou 42 cory caboose 31 Talya 28 Lenlo 25 Sooh 24 Verbal32 23 Celeste 21 Songstress 14 Kivam 11 Taborline 6 keyholder21 5 Eldrick4221 5 Ocicat 3 dicetosser1 3 Misheru 2 TinaHel 1 Nolder 1 Pralaya 1

 

Heres the posts so far

[Sili Quirrels]

 

*snipped*

 

@Celeste: this is a bit tmi on your part. why are you defending ocicat from fair prosecution? in your mind his lurking is null? but I have fos'd him severely since last night. and in comparison to john snow's post there is definitely a lot else to talk about if he was so inclined.

Trying to understand your points with what I know. 

 

uhuh.

 

From what I conjecture already, OCicat is one who lurks and keeps notes and irregularly comments. When he does comment, it's often tangential or queer.

 

Because he is a heteroclitic player, according to you, should I conclude he is not be compelled to respond to pressure? And even though he pushed JS over something really minute, does he not find other topics worthy of being noted? Or, if his vote was made to garner a response, why not follow up on said response and continue to engage the thread?

 

I checked his account. I know he is around.

 

If he is not responding to pressure how is one supposed to read him based on an inexistent reaction?

 

 

@Celeste - if it's easier to tell his alignment when he's pressured, why would you give him an out right now vs. Putting more pressure on him?

Sometimes I realize what I say after I say it.  I am also trying to read Sili.

 

How are you going to get a read out of me from this? Suffice to say you aren't thinking critically about Ocicat yet you are trying to correct me on his meta, which does not really contribute anything.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Kinda bummed Kivam posted Loki's wincon. I was gonna ask the thread.

Ask the thread what exactly?

What loki's Wincon would be. The response could have been useful

[Ocicat]

Ok, here's your response, Sili. You have a case against me, namely, as I understand, that I have made one relevant but terrible post so far. You can lynch me over it, but I can assure you that would be a mistake. Or you can consider that the post in question was simply a regrettable error. You have this idea that I posted for the sake of activity, but have you entertained the idea that maybe I thought I saw something? Or would you still like to punish me for carelessness? I can't fight that, of course. So why didn't I respond and continue to talk? Perhaps because I recognized that line of thought was in error and saw no value in continuing. But, you say, there are plenty other things I could have commented on by now? Well then. I don't see them. Would you want to lynch me for not seeing the same things you say you do? Or if they're so clear to you, why not enlighten me? I will freely admit I wasn't paying enough attention, if you show me there's what I should have seen. Hm?

[Sili Quirrels]

You're right, it was a terrible post. Not because you were reacting to a joke and mentioned that you believed it to be a joke, but also because aggression tends to be a very lazy reason to suspect someone.

 

Should I lynch Celeste instead of you? I mean you are playing into her meta of you too cleanly. So either you are a wolf who aims to be fit snug into the excuses you're given, or she is a wolf and knows your alignment.

[Ocicat]

Should I lynch Celeste instead of you? I mean you are playing into her meta of you too cleanly. So either you are a wolf who aims to be fit snug into the excuses you're given, or she is a wolf and knows your alignment.

 

Can't say. I've noted that she jumped to my defense, but why can't she be town trying to defend town by pointing out what they know of them? You talk about analysis, but I get the feeling you're starting from the assumption that certain actions have scummy reasons. Perhaps we've both simply made mistakes?

[Sili Quirrels]

Possibly. Didnt sound like she cared about your alignment though.

[Ocicat]

And? She shouldn't be bringing my alignment into the discussion, as she shouldn't know it yet.

[Celeste]

Possibly. Didnt sound like she cared about your alignment though.

I was just bringing up meta. It's weird that you said the bolded though. Why are you saying that?

[Cory Caboose]

stfu lenore

[Sili Quirrels]

A reaction test. No particular reason.

[Cory Caboose]

Sili my drunkdar says tou are a wolfffff

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili my drunkdar says tou are a wolfffff

Im not.

[Sili Quirrels]

Stuck on two ppl who are hard to rd. Tough.

[Cory Caboose]

I don't believe you.

 

I will try to understand

 

But I don't believe you.

[Sili Quirrels]

I told you how it is.

 

I dont think your reasons are good either but eh.

[Sili Quirrels]

Hard to say if you misreading me is informative. You do it many times as town.

[wish-tree]

stfu lenore

...Cory...

 

Well, I'm here, after being drained from extroverting.

 

A few observations:

 

Sili seems to get serious way too quickly. That just happened in the last game we were playing in. And you wanna know why? He was distancing from me, who was joke voting.

 

Possible correlations between Ocicat mistake/joke vote and Sili calling him out on it? Perhaps.

 

I, for one, don't know how Ocicat plays. I'll defer to Alette when trying to read him, but I prefer to assign null (leaning towards scummy) for anyone I don't know well. Lurking and not posting doesn't seem indicative of alignment, and neither does not knowing who is even playing. I make that mistake a lot. But default: *narrows eyes* Null-scummy until you prove yourselves unblemished.

 

Areas of confusion: don't get drunk Cory.

 

Possibilities: Eldrich possible Loki because of his disappointment at Kivam revealing Loki win con on thread-> argument espoused by a few, like John Snow.

 

Does JS drop the argument because Eldrich is too experienced to make that kind of slip? Hmm. Why the focus on Loki? I would think that scum would be more concerned about eliminating Loki than town, as someone previously mentioned.

 

^My recap, from what I remember.

[Sili Quirrels]

Its a game and you play to win i think.

[wish-tree]

And this is where I wonder whether Sili is drunk.