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Zander? Spam Master

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Verb still isn't blowing me away :( although he has picked up on my worst nightmare with an AJ/anybody mafia team lol.

 

 

 

@Verb, Why Zander over Dice, given that you don't seem to have a read on Dice?

 

 

 

@Verb, if you flip town and mafia still have a shot we have no mislynches left (assuming no town vig shots left; which is possible).

 

How sure are you that Talya and Thane are town? How caught up are you in thread?

 

 

And that was a response I've been waiting for from Talya, heh (and sort of shifts everybody back to bleh :/ at least until I've finished my Day 2 reread as a minimum

 

I've only played a couple of games with Zander, and I have no wolf meta on him.  In this game, I feel like he's not willing to accept he might be wrong on Talya.  Everything she says just confirms her as a wolf for him.  For many people, this would be very suspicious.  I can't say if it means that for him, though.  Just a gut feel for me.

 

And I don't need to "blow you away".  I've been playing catchup for most of the game - I was on vacation for the start.  Not your fault, obviously, but I have been acting the same way in this game as I usually do when a villager, minus the more activity and 'harder' stances.  I had Rand and Laine early on, thought maybe v/w, and said so on thread.  My mistake was to keep after Rand and not make the switch on thread that I was making in my head.  That single event is the ONLY dirt anybody has on me.

 

Protip: villagers make those mistakes all the time - wolves hardly do, because they are thinking hard about how they are perceived.  I was not, so if anything....that is another point for me, not against me.

 

 

fwiw: I'm not wrong UNTIL I'm proven wrong. and Dude you played a few games with me.  I lock on to something i hone on hard.  I can be backed off if i see something or someone brings up a set of good points and sometimes not even then.  You've seen me go after people I go for it.  For better or worse thats how I play.  And lastly fyi your gut is wrong.

 

I disagree i think you do need to blow us away brother.  I've liked some of your posts but disliked others.  Its once again coming down to your vote on Rand instead of Alanna when you said you felt it was v/w and....

 

"but I have been acting the same way in this game as I usually do when a villager, minus the more activity and 'harder' stances"

 

you gotta see why this is causing alarms along with the vote right???!!!!

 

 

 

 

Can I just say you two are doing my head in

 

@ BFG - I haven't been able to do much here, nor the other game...exam Thursday and brain is frazzled and very stressed right now. As far a Zander is concerned, he never really replies to posts properly, just makes silly comments, i think it's because he doesn't have any real substance to add at all, so throwing the comments that he does, is all he can do.

 

I don't know what to think of Verb and AJ right now. In fact don't think my brain can process it. I think there maybe a lot of solve with Verb right now, im trying to see if he could be town. Not sure I can.

 

wow getting frazzled is right!!!  i think you know how wrong this statement is.  I'm sorry if your stressed out right now in RL I honestly am.  But I'm not gonna stop suss'ing you because of it so this comment of yours is not gonna turn me away from you my dear.  I've made my points and will continue to do so,  this kind of comment about my play style only makes me think im on the right track.  id even consider thinking frustrated towny but I'm really the only on after you so I'm not buying it.

 

didnt you say if rand flipped town it looks good for verb?  can you please elaborate on this.

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What is wrong with that statement, you still haven't come up with why you think I'm wolf, just shove it in my face everytime I say anything about it, your comments are nothing more than you saying I'm wolf, saying it so many times doesn't make it true. I am frazzled, didn't expect it change anything, and it wasn't aimed at you. It's what I am hence lack of time on thread, unfortunately.

 

I said a while back I thought Verb looked town from his first few posts, there have been things since then that have altered that view. His vote on Rand and not on Alanna seemed odd to me. This argument with AJ, is leaving me cold at present, I haven't got the time to really go over it like I would like to and that is annoying. I would like Verb push for who he thinks is mafia (it can't just be AJ) and would like to see some really good reasons why. He has mentioned you on gut, and him going a AJ (I have to say I have AJ as pretty strong town read).

 

@ BFG - The tunneling is definitely one of the main factors. Yes he does tunnel in games but not like this, it's obsessional. Even in other games he has reasons. Here he seems to grasp at straws, (D1 especially) and now uses things others have said that they think I could be wolf as his ideas all the time, there is a lot of turning over of other peoples ideas. He wasn't on the Alanna lynch, which in it's self doesn't mean a thing, but the way she buttered up to him at the end didn't feel quite right. He said he had started to doubt her, but still wasn't willing to go over to her. If I make any comments out he just comes back with That I'm wolf, or howl away, etc, no actually thoughts about what I have said. not seen him do that. The Yates in SW was a different feel, I could feel the frustration and people asked him to go over it in a post why, but here he is blind and it's not frustration but almost like victimisation (no that wasn't an AtE, but trying to put into words).

 

 

this is the EXACT same approach as in SW I started YELLING at everyone and went on and it got me no where.  I'll yell when i want to but in the aftergame and DT people mentioned it made people tend to not follow or listen to me,  Seph built up the case after I gutted the wolf out of hiding.  Which is the EXACT same thing thats starting to happen with other peoples view of you.  You seeing a pattern here...

 

meh...

BFG Spam Master

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i honestly overlooked the claim. i guess i had my head up my ass when reading through all that. But, i have to say that my opinion is the same: in general i'm cautious with a doc claim. if it's not CC'd after enough time, it could certainly be a true claim. But it could also be a tactic to draw out the 'real PR' by mafia.

 

Having said that, i'm starting to think that someone would have cc'd if it were the case,so...

 

 

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I appreciate that this is WIFOM until the game ends, but I can guarantee I NEVER claim a named town role as mafia unless I'm under serious pressure, especially not in a situation that guarantees my death.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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i think i posted something on the other players yesterday, let me look

It is possible I missed, read earlier was sort of focused on Verb/AJ in comparison with what factually happened Day 2

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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Tbh I think Town!Verb fights better here and does more to analyze the game imo.

 

If he does flip town I will look into AJ though he's one of my stronger town reads..

 

Also still willing to vote Talya.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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See Verbal, here's my problem: there is one townie i'm sure about... me

 

second would be BFG because uncontested claim.

 

Third Zander because i think he'd be diffirent when wolf.

 

Aj so far has been doing ok, but yeah... i know that he can be a deep wolf from experience.

 

Talya... i dunno what Zander sees... but it makes sense, his case seems alright.

 

And you.. you're in my bottom 3. I also know you can try to talk yourself out of basically anything. I can't do any math now to see how towns chances would be should you flip town concerning victory. So i'm torn.. you seem a valid lynch target, Verb. But you have a point and i agree with BFG here... about AJ..

Can you explain you don't know what Zander sees, but his case seems all right?

BFG Spam Master

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Tbh I think Town!Verb fights better here and does more to analyze the game imo.

 

If he does flip town I will look into AJ though he's one of my stronger town reads..

 

Also still willing to vote Talya.

Really hoping you're right here :/

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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Verbal was 100% certain wolf for me, untill his interaction with AJ started. In truth, the entire 'conversation' between the two of them makes sense from both sides. I'm still not 100 % convinced he's town though, so i would still be willing to hammer him for that.

 

in the event of him being town... well... we'll look into things when night is done *nods*

 

What if night ends the game, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who would you vote right now Verb?

You or Zander

Then why aren't you voting one of them?

 

 

 

deadline is 32 minutes away.

 

^ because it doesn't matter - you guys have made your decision.

BFG Spam Master

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found my post here.

 

The one missing is dice in there. i have no idea on him. He is pretty quiet, and i don't know if that's good or bad

Quiet is null, loud is town, but it's not a vice versa type statement.

 

I'd love him to explain his change in stance on Verb :/ and also you!

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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Tbh I think Town!Verb fights better here and does more to analyze the game imo.

 

If he does flip town I will look into AJ though he's one of my stronger town reads..

 

Also still willing to vote Talya.

Really hoping you're right here :/

 

 

I already fought and posted a bunch to defend against AJ's major point of me voting Rand instead of Laine.

 

This "town!Verb fights better" is crap, and I don't understand why it is being accepted.  If the game is still on tomorrow, I'd lynch within AJ/Zander.

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BFG

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Verbal was 100% certain wolf for me, untill his interaction with AJ started. In truth, the entire 'conversation' between the two of them makes sense from both sides. I'm still not 100 % convinced he's town though, so i would still be willing to hammer him for that.

 

in the event of him being town... well... we'll look into things when night is done *nods*

What if night ends the game, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

Who would you vote right now Verb?

You or Zander
Then why aren't you voting one of them?

deadline is 32 minutes away.

^ because it doesn't matter - you guys have made your decision.

Well now, that's true. Thane, Dice clearly wavering for the past 24 hours or so, which would have left me, and I'd have thought you knew me well enough to know that Im rarely locked in on anything :/

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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Can't say much on Dice - I took a major vacation during this game, and I still have more posts than him.  So if he's a wolf and wins that way, okay.  If the post count theory is on this game, then he's a wolf.......which I'd wager means AJ and I are town on town violence.

 

So that's my only other thought here.

 

Either AJ/Zander or Zander/Dice.  I doubt Talya is a wolf, and BFG is clear via claim.  Thane is clear via "I quit" post.

BFG Spam Master

BFG

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Tbh I think Town!Verb fights better here and does more to analyze the game imo.

 

If he does flip town I will look into AJ though he's one of my stronger town reads..

 

Also still willing to vote Talya.

Really hoping you're right here :/

I already fought and posted a bunch to defend against AJ's major point of me voting Rand instead of Laine.

 

This "town!Verb fights better" is crap, and I don't understand why it is being accepted. If the game is still on tomorrow, I'd lynch within AJ/Zander.

Can't speak for Zander, but the way I want town to fight is to hunt for other suspects As well as fighting the case against you.

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Can't say much on Dice - I took a major vacation during this game, and I still have more posts than him. So if he's a wolf and wins that way, okay. If the post count theory is on this game, then he's a wolf.......which I'd wager means AJ and I are town on town violence.

 

So that's my only other thought here.

 

Either AJ/Zander or Zander/Dice. I doubt Talya is a wolf, and BFG is clear via claim. Thane is clear via "I quit" post.

Ok

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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Verbal was 100% certain wolf for me, untill his interaction with AJ started. In truth, the entire 'conversation' between the two of them makes sense from both sides. I'm still not 100 % convinced he's town though, so i would still be willing to hammer him for that.

 

in the event of him being town... well... we'll look into things when night is done *nods*

What if night ends the game, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

Who would you vote right now Verb?

You or Zander
Then why aren't you voting one of them?

deadline is 32 minutes away.

^ because it doesn't matter - you guys have made your decision.

Well now, that's true. Thane, Dice clearly wavering for the past 24 hours or so, which would have left me, and I'd have thought you knew me well enough to know that Im rarely locked in on anything :/

 

 

Conflicting statement, but ok.  Thane isn't voting anybody other than me today, and yeah - maybe Dice would follow me.  Maybe.  But you're clearly not, and Talya is doubtful.

 

I'm at the bottom of the list because I voted Rand.  Let's not pretend there is another substantial reason - it is literally that.  How can I defend that other than what I've already said?

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Verbal32

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Tbh I think Town!Verb fights better here and does more to analyze the game imo.

 

If he does flip town I will look into AJ though he's one of my stronger town reads..

 

Also still willing to vote Talya.

Really hoping you're right here :/

I already fought and posted a bunch to defend against AJ's major point of me voting Rand instead of Laine.

 

This "town!Verb fights better" is crap, and I don't understand why it is being accepted. If the game is still on tomorrow, I'd lynch within AJ/Zander.

Can't speak for Zander, but the way I want town to fight is to hunt for other suspects As well as fighting the case against you.

 

 

THERE ARE ONLY 2 WOLVES LEFT AND I'VE SAID WHO I THINK THEY ARE.

 

C'mon BFG, what do you want me to do other than that?  You're asking for something, I've provided, and you're still saying I'm being unreasonable by not providing.

 

ffs

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Tbh I think Town!Verb fights better here and does more to analyze the game imo.

 

If he does flip town I will look into AJ though he's one of my stronger town reads..

 

Also still willing to vote Talya.

Really hoping you're right here :/
I already fought and posted a bunch to defend against AJ's major point of me voting Rand instead of Laine.

 

This "town!Verb fights better" is crap, and I don't understand why it is being accepted. If the game is still on tomorrow, I'd lynch within AJ/Zander.

Can't speak for Zander, but the way I want town to fight is to hunt for other suspects As well as fighting the case against you.

THERE ARE ONLY 2 WOLVES LEFT AND I'VE SAID WHO I THINK THEY ARE.

 

C'mon BFG, what do you want me to do other than that? You're asking for something, I've provided, and you're still saying I'm being unreasonable by not providing.

 

ffs

24 hours ago I was asking you to post more...

 

You've said who you think, but not gone and built cases. Maybe I haven't played a game with you for to long, and that's not how you play, I dunno.

 

eg You said AJ was stating things likes facts, but not backed it up with examples...

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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Because I know somebody is going to hammer me, so you'll have to excuse the lack of WIM from me.  Vacation crippled my ability to get into the game.  I thought it was happening the other day, but then unexpected interruptions and the DM outage ruined it.

 

Besides, enough points against both AJ and Zander have been brought up.  I don't need to re-hash them, and you've clearly been doing #work this game anyway.

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