Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

Zander? · July 27, 2015

I dont think Sili/Thane shot Hallia at all, I think it was Yates,

I dont like how Sili tried to mis rep me either.

I dont like his ABSOLUTE cases/scenario's with factors left out of them like about shots and factors around them..

DM not letting me quote somethings. If you have any questions please ask direct i think its too many quotes or something,

Im sticking with my reads here: atp everyone has made good posts and a few iffy ones but Thane/Sili have the most suspicion for me.

[v] Sili [/v]

Why would I lie about shooting Hallia?

um i dont know....to try to make people think you arent mafia imo. thane didnt mention it why's that?

Zander? · July 27, 2015

Zander - what caused your read on Dice to go from null to town Day 1?

re read and gut.

Zander? · July 27, 2015

Dice ain't reading my posts.

come on man

Zander, I get why you didn't vote Laine Day 2, why did you put Rand to L1 (or try to?)

i voted rand because atp i was waiting on Alanna's response to the claim if she had claimed doc and you didnt cc atp (obv i didnt know who the doc was atp) theres was 0 chance id vote her without a CC. they were the only lynches happening that day/ was waiting and re evaluating before DL. thought atp was best place for my vote. a no lynch was not gonna happen it doesnt help at all.

Zander? · July 27, 2015

Dice?

What do you think about Zanders presence today?

(Not that I want to go all creepy stalker girl, bit he's been posting elsewhere on DM and not here :/)

.........wow. i did. like 3-4 in the Band which Ive been a slacking on cause of RL. sorry.

Zander? · July 27, 2015

16 hours 30 mins

thats like 1 am my time. i prolly wont be around atp. but I WILL be checking throughout the day.

BFG · July 27, 2015

Dice ain't reading my posts.

come on man

Zander, I get why you didn't vote Laine Day 2, why did you put Rand to L1 (or try to?)

i voted rand because atp i was waiting on Alanna's response to the claim if she had claimed doc and you didnt cc atp (obv i didnt know who the doc was atp) theres was 0 chance id vote her without a CC. they were the only lynches happening that day/ was waiting and re evaluating before DL. thought atp was best place for my vote. a no lynch was not gonna happen it doesnt help at all.

So you didn't realise it was a L1 vote? And you had already noted that Laine had claimed VT, so why were you expecting her to claim doc?

BFG · July 27, 2015

Dice?

What do you think about Zanders presence today?

(Not that I want to go all creepy stalker girl, bit he's been posting elsewhere on DM and not here :/)

I refuse to use that sort of thing. Do you remember the huge argument me and nyn had over doing that?

Vaguely now you've brought it up :laugh:

Why are you so confident that Zander's town?

Zander? · July 27, 2015

Dice ain't reading my posts.

come on man

Zander, I get why you didn't vote Laine Day 2, why did you put Rand to L1 (or try to?)

i voted rand because atp i was waiting on Alanna's response to the claim if she had claimed doc and you didnt cc atp (obv i didnt know who the doc was atp) theres was 0 chance id vote her without a CC. they were the only lynches happening that day/ was waiting and re evaluating before DL. thought atp was best place for my vote. a no lynch was not gonna happen it doesnt help at all.

So you didn't realise it was a L1 vote? And you had already noted that Laine had claimed VT, so why were you expecting her to claim doc?

yes makes no difference only way my vote wouldnt have landed there atp was if it would have hammered for the reasons i have explained.

Because I still thought she may have. I wasn't the only one who thought that either I know Shad did and MAYBE AJ.

Sili Quirrels · July 27, 2015

I dont think Sili/Thane shot Hallia at all, I think it was Yates,

I dont like how Sili tried to mis rep me either.

I dont like his ABSOLUTE cases/scenario's with factors left out of them like about shots and factors around them..

DM not letting me quote somethings. If you have any questions please ask direct i think its too many quotes or something,

Im sticking with my reads here: atp everyone has made good posts and a few iffy ones but Thane/Sili have the most suspicion for me.

[v] Sili [/v]

Why would I lie about shooting Hallia?

um i dont know....to try to make people think you arent mafia imo. thane didnt mention it why's that?

So saying Thane made a yolo shot n1 looks good to you?

huh. :huh:

Thane probably did not claim the kill because yolo shots look bad (not good). I claimed it because the math says wolves have a bullet.

Sili Quirrels · July 27, 2015

Dice ain't reading my posts.

come on man

Zander, I get why you didn't vote Laine Day 2, why did you put Rand to L1 (or try to?)

i voted rand because atp i was waiting on Alanna's response to the claim if she had claimed doc and you didnt cc atp (obv i didnt know who the doc was atp) theres was 0 chance id vote her without a CC. they were the only lynches happening that day/ was waiting and re evaluating before DL. thought atp was best place for my vote. a no lynch was not gonna happen it doesnt help at all.

So you didn't realise it was a L1 vote? And you had already noted that Laine had claimed VT, so why were you expecting her to claim doc?

yes makes no difference only way my vote wouldnt have landed there atp was if it would have hammered for the reasons i have explained.

Because I still thought she may have. I wasn't the only one who thought that either I know Shad did and MAYBE AJ.

Can you explain how it is you arrived at the conclusion Laine was a doc? And also, were you prepared to lynch Laine if she wasn't a doc?

BFG · July 27, 2015

Dice?

What do you think about Zanders presence today?

(Not that I want to go all creepy stalker girl, bit he's been posting elsewhere on DM and not here :/)

.........wow. i did. like 3-4 in the Band which Ive been a slacking on cause of RL. sorry.

Lol, I don't really care where people post, but I have x hours left to get a read that I'm happy with, and nothing you're posting makes me feel better. This is coupled with things that Sili is posting that make me uncomfortable as well.

BFG · July 27, 2015

As for zanders "slip" that reads both ways. If I was sili and wanting to not get lynched id read it as a slip too. but as me im not sure i do

I agree with you on the 'slip' not really being a slip. Its a juxtaposition of present knowledge being superimposed over prior knowledge, or something.

What are you currently thinking?

Fine, lol.

As for zanders "slip" that reads both ways. If I was sili and wanting to not get lynched id read it as a slip too. but as me im not sure i do

Told ya Sili

Neither of these say what you seem to think. Mine was a follow on to the below, I don't think you slipped, I don't think Sili is misrepping you. From what I can see Dice agrees with me.

Sili

Backtracks awkwardly from nudging. Bfg come on see what I'm seeing. Zander is new he wants to create distance but he doesn't want to lynch talya. He realises a lot of eyes are on scum... ppl are talking about them so he tries to divert focus to low posters instead of talya

As an aside this makes no sense for game state at the time. There was no focus on Talia at the time, the ONLY reason people were looking twice is because Sander was reading her as mafia, if he wanted to avoid suspicion on her he just had to say nothing, or town read her with the rest. You're right it could be new mafia though.

Zander

This proved right in SW with Sooh and in ME with Dice and Sept. Why wouldn't I subscribe to it here. No backtracking here brother. I made a point for where I thought the other wolves could be.

this proved right in SW with Sooh and in ME with Dice and seph. why wouldnt i subscribe to it here. no backtracking here brother. i made a point for where i thought the other wolves could be.
Slipped bro.

Sorry.

quote in context silli....you said i was backtracking off Talya by looking at the low posters. the other wolves was beside talya. nice try at mis repping me homie.

-'other' means you knew talya was a wolf. You said, 'where i thought the other wolves could be', but in the post I quoted you were saying Talya was null.

And I refuse to quote that glitched quote block. I know the post chain you're referring to. -__-

again with the mis sep sili. other refers to BESIDES Talya. we now know here flip, knew was in current reference knowledge and its pretty obv.. dude your better then this,

My advice is re. the sentence again, but I think you get it. You spoke in the past tense like you knew Talya was a wolf. re. 'Thought the other wolves'.

fyl RTE tried to do this in ME as a wolf and he was lynched for it. mis repping is not a good look sili. but please continue to do so.

I haven't misrepped you though. I quoted what you said, and then explained it was a slip. You have yet to demonstrate it wasn't, and I don't think you can.

I haven't misrepped you though. I quoted what you said, and then explained it was a slip. You have yet to demonstrate it wasn't, and I don't think you can.

you have though. and ive already pointed it out. the others will see it as well. but nice try though.

I haven't misrepped you though. I quoted what you said, and then explained it was a slip. You have yet to demonstrate it wasn't, and I don't think you can.

you have though. and ive already pointed it out. the others will see it as well. but nice try though.

I... don't think so.

The quoted post from day 2 was of you saying Talya was null. In your response just now, you said you thought Talya was a wolf.

Zander's post for reference

Tbh she's still null I just find the tone "Now Dog" "We can still be lazy and win" but mostly my gut. My gut served me pretty well thus far and I'm learning to trust it. Its D1 with not a whole lot going on. Chances are there's a wolf (s) in the little to non posters according to the CCSOHW and one (some) posting. Just making [my POE]

Zander is calling Talya null and mafia in the same post.

I think this is mostly semantics and not alignment indicative for either side. Maybe Sili is reading through Zander with conf bias

BFG · July 27, 2015

Zander the key thing here (for me) is that you've done NOTHING to convince me that Sili is the person I should be voting. Earlier on you seemed reluctant to call him mafia at all. Why didn't you vote yesterday? Why was your vote so late today?

Do you have a stronger town read on Dice if so why???

dicetosser1 · July 27, 2015

bfg you here?

Zander? · July 27, 2015

I dont think Sili/Thane shot Hallia at all, I think it was Yates,

I dont like how Sili tried to mis rep me either.

I dont like his ABSOLUTE cases/scenario's with factors left out of them like about shots and factors around them..

DM not letting me quote somethings. If you have any questions please ask direct i think its too many quotes or something,

Im sticking with my reads here: atp everyone has made good posts and a few iffy ones but Thane/Sili have the most suspicion for me.

[v] Sili [/v]

Zander the key thing here (for me) is that you've done NOTHING to convince me that Sili is the person I should be voting. Earlier on you seemed reluctant to call him mafia at all. Why didn't you vote yesterday? Why was your vote so late today?

Do you have a stronger town read on Dice if so why???

I did vote yesterday? and yes ive had dice has a higher town read for quite a while. ive listed reasons for it as well. im not sure what your trying to ask me here??

BFG · July 27, 2015

bfg you here?

Yes, need to do some cooking in a bit

BFG · July 27, 2015

I dont think Sili/Thane shot Hallia at all, I think it was Yates,

I dont like how Sili tried to mis rep me either.

I dont like his ABSOLUTE cases/scenario's with factors left out of them like about shots and factors around them..

DM not letting me quote somethings. If you have any questions please ask direct i think its too many quotes or something,

Im sticking with my reads here: atp everyone has made good posts and a few iffy ones but Thane/Sili have the most suspicion for me.

[v] Sili [/v]

Zander the key thing here (for me) is that you've done NOTHING to convince me that Sili is the person I should be voting. Earlier on you seemed reluctant to call him mafia at all. Why didn't you vote yesterday? Why was your vote so late today?

Do you have a stronger town read on Dice if so why???

I did vote yesterday? and yes ive had dice has a higher town read for quite a while. ive listed reasons for it as well. im not sure what your trying to ask me here??

Yester-game-day

I'm looking for you to show why Sili is mafia. I know you say you don't build cases, but you do pull posts that ping you.

BFG · July 27, 2015

I also wish Sili was doing more, but meh

dicetosser1 · July 27, 2015

bfg im REALLY over this. You want to look more or do i follow my gut?

the things that are really conficting me is A) Zander has stayed on Talya ALL game and B) Thane switched to Talya.

I think A is less likely to be a gambit and think it would have got sorted earlier if Zander hadnt disappeared and my gut keeps saying thane

Sili Quirrels · July 27, 2015

I already have 123 posts hehe.

Ill continue burrying zander when i can use a computer. I already said all my main points.

Sili Quirrels · July 27, 2015

bfg im REALLY over this. You want to look more or do i follow my gut?

the things that are really conficting me is A) Zander has stayed on Talya ALL game and B) Thane switched to Talya.

I think A is less likely to be a gambit and think it would have got sorted earlier if Zander hadnt disappeared and my gut keeps saying thane

But it cannot be a gambit from thane because he was going on vacation and btw thane obviously does not have a bullet.

BFG · July 27, 2015

Day 3

It is now day!

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

[v]Rand[/v]

[v]Rand[/v]

choo choo

Dice, bro... we need to talk. I'm just not seeing you as town here... help me out. You seem quite passive to me this game. Which, imo, isn't a good sign for you.

[v]Rand[/v]

[v]Rand[/v]

choo choo

Ready to hear Rand tell us why his shot didn't work.

indeed, it should be interesting. i think i know though..

he lied..

Shocking.

so I guess were voting Talya today!!!!

lolololololol

[v] Rand [/v]

ofcourse you do!

Shad kill made little sense, besides that he was obvious town (to me at least)

wolves hunting PR's i think.

One wolf down.

Rand at L-2.

Things are good in this village, boys.

Rand's impending lynch is starting to look too easy.

As in I'm starting to doubt the validity of Rand/Laine w/w......feels more like v/w, actually.

Can we get a VC/DL post pls?

I feel like Rand should die first, here, and Laine should be vigged tonight.

meh

[v]Rand[/v]

I have meetings all day, but I'll try to poke back in before noon to move if I need to for a lynch. Just not ready to hammer yet.

i dont know about anyone else but this progression of Verbs is just off imo. in the off chance Rand flips town and with staing he thinks Rand/Alanna is v/w yet refuses to Hammer her is a very very bad look imo.

Thoughts?

[v]Rand[/v]

This puts him L-1

Let's see what he has to say before we Hammer

I want to have a look at Verb but it will be later. Need to get to work soon.

i dont know about anyone else but this progression of Verbs is just off imo. in the off chance Rand flips town and with staing he thinks Rand/Alanna is v/w yet refuses to Hammer her is a very very bad look imo.

Thoughts?

Completely agree. Sort of sucks for Verb randing wolf like 3 games in a row recently but yesterday he seemed between a rock and hard place in where to vote. One wolfmate or the other.

i hope this will be a short day with a wolf lynched.... otherwise we look at the thread again.

So, for the people having Dice as town: why?

if Rand/Verb isn't it, i suspect Dice should be investigated a bit better.

Who do you think are the final 2?

i'm still hesitating about dice, but i'll go with it for now.

Rand, that post seems quite... hectic...

Rand, i think there's little you can do about it now. You knew you had to take the shot in order to clear yourself. In your shoes, i'd have submitted right away when N2 started. You were around at that time. You read what people said. Yet you didn't do anything at that time. And now you complain that you were too late.

Can you see how this looks really bad?

this ^^^^^

<snip>

your thoughts on this BFG? your not voting yet so it seems you may believe him or do you just want to hear what he has to say?

Ok, my timestamp have all this over about 2 hours from day start. So essentially Zander is asking me why I'm not hammering 2 hours into Day on someone who he'd had a town read on maybe 36 hours ago. He's 'willing to vote' Talia but NOT pushing her. I don't believe in Star Wars that he'd have gone with his second mafia read over his first at the start of day, although I have no doubt he'd consolidate if necessary.

Having said that his post on Verb looks ~good, as does Thane's post on Dice (consistency and out of thread consensus)

dicetosser1 · July 27, 2015

you keep saying that but unless i have access to your PM I dont know thats true now do i sili?

Sili Quirrels · July 27, 2015

From what i saw of zanders bus it is not v/w.

Also dice i know you have seen plenty of wolves distance all game. What have i not seen?

dicetosser1 · July 27, 2015

distance yes but not constantly push they should be lynched. thats why AJ would be bent out of shape i i had been mafia this game

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