[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[csarmi]

(also had Seph and Shad as strong town but it's not relevant now is it)

[Zander?]

@Zander - My claim would be utterly stupid if I were 3rd party. Not only it is asking to get vigged, but almost guaranteed to get lynched at LyLo-1. So I don't understand how could you even consider that.

 

my response to this is Gambits. would be a solid plan if you were a Jester or some other role i dont even know about thats along those lines.

[alannalynn]

1. Sili - medium town lean (not sure why, call it a tone read)

3. Alannalynn - lock clear (wagons)

7. Sooh (Mentored by Pizza) - medium town read (the intro)

8. Zander - strong town read (wagons)

11. Yates - light town read (the Verb/leelou/Salami story)

13. Dice - strong town read (tone)

17. WomboCombo - mixed read, probably town (D1 focus shift onto Leelou was unnecessary)

 

* Never lynching Laine, Dice, Zander.

** Didn't clear people from SK perspective yet (you may read all those above as "not wolves")

Cool thanks. I'm just comparing people's lists for fun ^.^

 

You're one of the only people town reading Sooh. I did have her in town at the beginning of the game, but she's slowly moved down due to poe. And this puts Talya and Eldrick near the bottom for you, obviously.

 

Thoughts on my first quote in #4642?

[csarmi]

If I was a Jester, I'd have won a long time ago, trust me. I have no trouble getting lynched whatsoever :)

[alannalynn]

 

Okay, so besides CS, who is your WTL today Zander?

 

atp i think Sooh is there.

think there may be a wolf between Wombo/Yates/  not feeling it as t vs t imo.

and theres someone hidden thats not being looked at enough.  like a fairly viewed town read.

Sooh is pretty common right now, I'm seeing Womdrej/Yates t/t just by reading through their interaction. And they're not going at each other atp, so that's good. I'm pretty sure that if one was wolf, they'd still be pushing that a bit harder. As for a fairly viewed town read, does Eldrick or Talya fit that description?

[Zander?]

 

 

Okay, so besides CS, who is your WTL today Zander?

 

atp i think Sooh is there.

think there may be a wolf between Wombo/Yates/  not feeling it as t vs t imo.

and theres someone hidden thats not being looked at enough.  like a fairly viewed town read.

Sooh is pretty common right now, I'm seeing Womdrej/Yates t/t just by reading through their interaction. And they're not going at each other atp, so that's good. I'm pretty sure that if one was wolf, they'd still be pushing that a bit harder. As for a fairly viewed town read, does Eldrick or Talya fit that description?

 

 

Yes.  Ive found Talya has been trending up a bit and Eldrick down a bit.

[Yates]

 

 

though im not sure of which i think it much more likely a wolf between Yates/Wombo imo.

What makes you feel it's not v/v?

 

 

uggg...stupid DM

 

tbh its more of a gut feel atp.

 

 

 

Seriously though, when Wombat posts I tend to feel better about the hydra. When AJ posts, they creep me out again. 80% of the time Wombo is a wolf half the time.

[Yates]

 

Why is there a scum in Heart/Wombo?

Because Leelou scumread them. Seph is clear. Durin is probably clear. That leaves those 2.

 

LOL - If people think there's scum in Yates/Wombo and there's scum in AH/Wombo? The common denominator is fairly obvious.

 

I might be willing to explore this option.

[Yates]

@NotBob, are you trying to sell us that

 

1) you're a vigilante,

2) you're reading me wolf but you didn't shoot me even though it is probably +EV in any case

3) you have shot Clovdyx (qhich doesn't look like a vig shot either)

 

What's your game?

Can we drop the NB angle until tomorrow? See how the NK's go down and continue from there? He could have holstered. He could be 1 shot but not want scum to know. He could be JOAT. He could be covering for the real vig. I'm inclined to let this play out over night.

[Yates]

I will reiterate that I think there is a roughly 70% chance there is scum between sooh and heart, just based on what lee did with her reads.

???

Can you elaborate?

[Yates]

I'm more worried about losing to the serial killer than to the scum team atm XD

 

[Yates]

Unless the sk is pretending to be a vig.

Right.  This is why I said to wait until the kills made no sense.  Last night made no sense.  So NB used up all 3 strikes.  But worst case he's an SK.  If there's another kill that makes no sense tonight?  We lynch him tomorrow.  But it would be BETTER to lynch a wolf with a lead this big.

 

I could lynch there just to stop the kills but I'm not sure it's the optimal play.

[Yates]

Ok. working my way through EoD1. I've read this post 4 times now. I can't see how Laine's train got started. Someone please help me out. There were 2 votes in quick succession because of that post, and I'm not seeing it.

I don't understand?  The people that voted were Clov [flipped Town], Durin [flip unknown but probably Town], and Seph [mod confirmed Town].  What does this mean in terms of a game solve?  You think Laine is scum??

[Yates]

 

Don't care one way or the other about leelou, but verb says she's probably town.

 

Losing focus. Want to remember to check into this (or someone else can). Sili voted Laine over Leelou. Reasoning being Verb thought she was town. What was Sili's view of Therbal at this point?

 

I know this vote has already been discussed, but I'm reading it now. And bonus of the knowledge that Verb was scum. Might make looking at it different.

 

A LOT of people look to Verb to read Leelou and Leelou to read Verb.  Count me among that group.  I think this is null.

[Yates]

I knew Thaneballs was scum, I didn't know if you were. But if I remember right, Talya and AJ jumped on you instead of Verbal, please correct me if I'm wrong.

You are not wrong.

[Yates]

Annnnnnnddddd..... I'm spent.

[Zander?]

[Yates]

See? You GET me...

[Zander?]

See? You GET me...

 

 

LDO

 

 

so whats your WTL list look like Yates?

[csarmi]

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Wombo[/v]

 

Don't trust AJ. Can't read Wombat. Fairly certain there's scum in Heart/Wombo. Feeling better about Heart.

 

Still happy with a Sooh lynch, if she doesn't start playing. Don't want the votes to fly up without giving her a chance. Internet problems SUCK.

 

BTW Sooh, if you're town, you could always see if you could sub out, if you're not able to play. If you're a wolf...keep doing what you're doing.

Why is there a scum in Heart/Wombo?

 

Because Leelou scumread them. Seph is clear. Durin is probably clear. That leaves those 2.

 

I may disregard this theory after I finish reading what I've missed tomorrow. Also finally get the chance to do a reread.

 

A dangerous theory. Prone to manipulation (intentional mis-spew or just totally random reads) from mafia side. I don't advise going this angle.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

VOTE COUNT! END OF DAY 1!

 

Seph(1): NotBob

Durin(2): Dice, Csarmi

Leelou(7): Aiel Heart, Zander, Laine, Durin, Shad, Seph, Wombat

Aiel Heart(1): Eldrick

Sooh(1): Talya

Laine(3): Clovdyx, Leelou, Sili

 

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Yates, Sooh

 

Leelou has been lynched! She was The Emperor, Mafia Godfather.

 

Hallia will do the write-up when she's back on.

 

It is now NIGHT 1!

 

 

 

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT               

 

 

 

Yates(2): Talya, WomboCombo

 

Thaneballs32(6): Laine, AielHeart, Sili, Eldrick, Zander, NotBob (Seph)

 

WomboCombo(1): Yates

 

 

Thaneballs32 is at L-2

 

 

 

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Sooh, Dice, Shad, Seph, Csarmi

 

 

 

It is Day 2.  With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Deadline is set for Tuesday, June 23rd at 7pm PST.  Countdown Timer

 

 

 

i think its worth noting:

 

who isnt on either Train both votes

Sooh didn't vote EITHER time

who is on both trains

 

 

Agreed.  Could lynch any of them starting with Csarmi.  realize now they want to run out the clock and then induce emo content at the deadline.  Typical.

[csarmi]

NotBob, you gonna tell me you're reading me wolf? You're better than that.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

@Zander -

 

1) That's very bad wagonomics.

2) I told you that I don't know who the wolves are. You keep pressing me for it, I can

a) tell you flat out that I don't know <-- called being unhelpful

b) tell you vague guesses <-- called "excuses" and "not cutting it"

 

Again, I won't give you reads that I don't have. I have explained how I work, why I work that way. I have told you what reads I'm confident in (and why) and what I'm not. Can't help you more.

 

Let's just lynch this guy.

[csarmi]

 

@Zander -

 

1) That's very bad wagonomics.

2) I told you that I don't know who the wolves are. You keep pressing me for it, I can

a) tell you flat out that I don't know <-- called being unhelpful

b) tell you vague guesses <-- called "excuses" and "not cutting it"

 

Again, I won't give you reads that I don't have. I have explained how I work, why I work that way. I have told you what reads I'm confident in (and why) and what I'm not. Can't help you more.

 

Let's just lynch this guy.

 

Not the best idea - get 5 votes though and I'll help.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Zander, some people work differently in this game. That's just how it is, stop nagging him

 

You are my strongest town read but if you are defending csarmi i may have to reconsider.