[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Talya]

 

 

 

sili, doesn't look good when you look back, and womby and can see reasons for and against him there.

 

Womby certainly wasn't instrumental in the lynch of Leelou. He didn't even have her down as much.

We always knew that I voted the wrong person.

 

 

I didn't realise how bad it looked until I reread it then. I know you voted wrong, but not that it was so close to the end.

 

CS, that comment about verb and Leelou, on the whole that looks towny. I don't think he would have said that if wolf.

 

Just had a read up on Dice, on the whole he has given quite a good account considering he hasn't many posts. I don't think there was hardly any fluff votes.

 

tbh i didn't know how many votes were on lee or laine and i didn't care. i went with what i felt was the best choice. there were reasons, and my reasons make sense because it's the truth.  you can continue talking about how vote analysis day 1 makes me look bad, but i never help a town not lynch a villager 20 or so minutes to eod when the gf is the counter wagon.

 

 

 

I think that was a problem for a lot a that time and I had trouble going through it earlier. It makes me think of my hammer vote on Eld in the other game, you just know everyone is going to mention it and can't get out of that.

[Talya]

I'm sick of ISO's...

[alannalynn]

[Talya]

Sili

—was ok with Sooh behavior as it happened; liked Sooh’s initial post better than mine because she knew it would probably look bad and did it anyway.

—Didn’t like Aj’s attention on Seph

—Gave a few thoughts here and there, more on the defensive in the early 90s pages

—#1975 says he doesn’t care about Leelou but Verb says she’s probably town voted Laine—later beat himself up for it

—gives reads in #2135 but says ten posts later that they aren’t worth much

—Looks at me Sooh based off of Leelou’s interactions with us, increasingly looking at Sooh

I feel like Sili hasn’t been fully present this game (as compared to my limited past experience), which isn’t alignment indicative necessarily, but doesn’t make me feel as confident in him as I would like to. Leaning town

 

 

Alannalynn

—defended those with busy lives early on, which I admit may be making me a bit biased about her

—has been giving a decent amount of thoughts and has been pretty wide spread about them

—the whole “taking out the hydras” thing was supposed to be a joke but is still rubbing me wrong

—Was the opposite train to Leelou on D1

She’s acting like a cleared town leader at this point, and she is one of my stronger town reads right now, and seems pretty invested in hunting at this point. Will allow to be a strong town read

 

 

Thaneballs32 (Thane and Verbal)

—beating a dead horse here, but I will note that there was very little noted.

—Verbal said multiple times dice and Leelou were town, but didn’t really substantiate any of reads that I noted, he was however very confident in his reads.

—I had absolutely nothing by Thane in my notes

—ISOing, he didn’t like Csarmi’s claim, various things that he doesn’t like or is wary of but nothing very substantial

Nothing of note, and both of them are capable of playing a much better game. Verbal is allowed to be wrong about Leelou, but he never gave any reasons for any of his reads and his reads didn’t really progress

 

NotBob

—popping in like usual, asking a question here and there, commentating, gave real thoughts when asked

—#3019 before wasn’t willing to vote uneducated at EoD (and it was EoD so maybe that is the factor here) and now he pops in and votes Thane though he’s not caught up, which I find interesting

No strong reason to like or dislike him at this point, so leaning town.

 

Sooh

—I noted early that she had more of her own thoughts than she had last game, though that has severely dropped off and she seems to only pop in every now and then

—Most of her pop ins have been defending or explaining herself since, and I feel like she’s having decreased strength

—a few of her posts have pinged, a few of them I have liked

—Looks a little more scummy in light of Leelou; I can see Leelou doing distancing like that, and that situation felt strange to me.

Going to put leaning scum at this point. I’d like to hear more from her on her thoughts on everyone.

 

Zander

—There have been a few times when he’s popped in with something random

—were a few reads and such that I didn’t like at the beginning, but his reads have been somewhat organic.

—Has been doing a lot of casing and giving thoughts.

Town Lean

 

Eldrick

—Noted a lot of posts I like

—Is maintaining that I’m not clear when a lot of other people are considering me clear, which I don’t think a wolf would necessarily do right now (wouldn’t want to draw attention to themselves by stating an opinion that is contradictory and may draw attention to themselves)

—I appreciated the direction he was going with the VC + Leelou’s list. Looking for new ways to poke out scum is ok

Town Lean

 

Talya

—I feel like I have a very little amount of feel or memory for someone I have so many notes on

—I had a town lean on her early in the game

—Her thoughts and reads have been very different from others’ in this game, which could mean many things. It is good that she isn’t just going with the crowed, and isn’t afraid to be unpopular with others (which she has been)

—2347 Yates quote pointing out how little wolf hunting he has done which others really like

I’m not seeing strong reasons to like or dislike her either, so another slight town lean

 

Yates

—Once again, a dead horse.

—Didn’t like some seph things, didn’t like some of the early votes

—Gave a few reads, made a case on Durin, defended seph against Zander at one point, didn’t like Sooh’s post.

—a lot of stuff is either jokey or math talk in his ISO

—I have liked quite a few of his posts, and I also know that life has been busy for him which I can empathize with, but there has also been a lot more talking without actually saying anything than usual, and that feels a bit off to me.

I can agree with the scum read, though the Therbal one is stronger for me. I feel much more conflicted about labeling him scummy for whatever reason (it may just be because he’s one of the people that I’m always inclined to feel more nebulous about), however at this point we could also get a good deal of information from his lynch. Would like to hear more from him before death though.

He’s sort of like a high strong scum…? Idk, something here is off for me and I don’t like it

 

Dice

—Tunnelled on the Wolf read day one

—Was defended by leelou and Verbal with no explanation

—note that he saw verbal as townie (was past tense in the post) and Yates

+As an added bonus, is pushing me now, and I’m not all that fond of the case. Others feeling I’m not cleared is more understandable, but I feel like he’s kind of reaching with his casing (re #2706, I had said 3rd party NK in response to whatever Shad’s theory was about a doc protect or what not, the post about the Janitor possibility had ninja’d. Was half asleep and knew there was a role that stripped all info away, but couldn’t remember the specifics of it. I think I only ever played one game with a janitor, and if I did it was a long time ago and in that game it was weird, so the impression wasn’t that strong.) (Then #2963—I had joke-voted Leelou. Later on when I attempted to vote you but forgot to unvote her, she was still very scummy in my opinion, but I figured your lynch would give me info on her. Then I found out that I had forgot to unvote, but my vote was on someone who I still believed to be scummy, and someone who was far more likely to actually get lynched at that point, and the other train was partially built on something that was a false impression. Why would I change my vote?) (Next?)

I have not liked Dice’s game, and I continue to not. A lot of other people have been fine with it, though I need to go back through and see exactly who at this point.

Now, what would that mean? Leelou, dice and Verbal were all mafia, and they all defended each other with the exception of dice defending Leelou (noted that he saw her as somewhat scummy)? That doesn’t seem likely. I’m not certain of the implications/thoughts here, but I feel like lynching Therbal could give a bit more info here too.

 

 

Shad

—A lot of analyzing lists, making cases, giving thoughts, and going for things that he sees as scummy

—A lot of giving thoughts and a lot of thoughts I have liked

—I feel like his activity has dropped somewhat, but I think the volume of this game is also creating a bigger learning curve for him

I’m feeling pretty town about him and have for most of the game. If he ends up being scum it is going to break my heart.

Random side thing—Shad, you said that you had joined this site and then discovered mafia, so I can assume that WoT brought you to the site, is that correct? (There will be a followup question)

 

Seph

—Got a lot of pings and attention early on.

—Note that Yates defended him #1422, however that felt genuine regardless of what Yates ends up flipping

—Been doing a lot of casing and giving his own thoughts, and I’ve liked some of that.

Town lean

 

 

WomboCombo (Wombat and Andrej)—

—A lot of casing and thoughts and analysis I’ve liked and has seemed very straightforward

—Randomly noting that Wombat is posting a lot more than I remember him posting before, but that’s probably not indicative of anything, and it made me smile actually

—the amount of townie I’m feeling about them is making me cautious, because both of them can trick me.

Strong town lean

 

 

Csarmi

—Claimed: Hated—requires one less vote to be lynched—Jar Jar Binks

—Claimed early, which is normal for him but just because he has a claim doesn’t mean we can trust that claim

—Pressured Sooh for coming in an posting when she wasn’t being constructive, and then later had her fairly high on his reads list without any explanation

—Stuff with Darthe begins, but gives a few other posts for other people, sees Sooh as a solid villager in late D1

—Catfight with Darthe, then had the temporary emoquit

—Came in today acting silly (I just typed that as “sili” again >.> )which is allowed, but I got the feeling that he came in simply to gloat and was being the opposite of helpful on purpose, which is part of what goaded him about Darthe if memory serves…

Kind of leaning scum with him at this point. Has had some good posts, but they are kind of dwarfed by the not so good vibes I’m getting at this point

Have no meta with him though, so my reading of his vibes could be totally off.

Leaning Scum

 

 

TL;DR

 

Strong Town

Shad

Alanna

 

Town Lean

Wombocombo (could maybe move up)

Sili

NotBob

Zander

Seph

Eldrick

Talya

 

Scum Lean

Sooh

Csarmi

 

Strong Scum

Yates (something off here)

Dice (implications still need to be figured out--see above)

Thaneballs

 

 

 

So for now we shall [v]Therbal[/v]

Would like to hear from one/both of them before the lynch goes through though. 

 

Going to go watch a hallmark movie with my grandma now, but will probably pop in from time to time

 

Here's another long post...I've bolded the bit in Dice's spiel. She says that Leelou was a joke vote, but when she voted him she still thought Leelou Scummy. The two don't match, either Leelou was a joke vote or she thought she was scummy.

[Talya]

 

me looking through them, lol

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Anyways

 

Cleared town:

Alanna

Zander

Seph

Shad

Notbob

Heart

 

Towny:

Eldrick

Talya

Sili

Womdrej

Yates

 

Possible Scum:

Csarmi

Sooh

Dice

 

Your bottom three suck. You seriously need to revaluate. Im sure Csarmo os Town and im POSITIVE i am   sooh i dunno

 

 

You never know, I could be right. If I were to sub out anyone above my scum list it would be Eldrick or Talya

You couldn't. I'm a villager, almost sure on Dice and quite convinced on Sooh. At this point, maybe, just maybe one of them can be a wolf. Surely not both.

 

So you need a new list, methinks.

 

 

you can be sure csarmi

 

 

 

these kinda posts are making me think of the MS posts when him and seph were all but outed,

 

 

yeah...no  MS i attacked Laine trying to sow confusion.

[Talya]

Dice, do you have a new set of reads please?

 

Who do you want to see lynched today and who not.

[alannalynn]

I think it's called "keeping my options open" Dice. Besides I probably won't be lynching you this game

[dicetosser1]

OK so

 

Csarmi

 

Early claim   have seen him do this a whole bunch of times. So far hes been 100% town everytime.

Posting Song lyrics. Does as town

Getting in peoples face does as town and mafia

The blow up and emotion when Darthe was baiting him. Totally Town csarmi.  Cant think of a time he did this as mafia

 

 

@csarmi  get ure vote off yourself. 

Im never voting csarmi this game

 

 

Me

Gut read  yes

Arguing loud and long yes

refusing to move off that read yes

Have you all been told that by others? Yes

Also note  Csarmi Yates and AJ can probably tell you my role never mind my alignment lol

 

 

Sooh   I have nothing on. Hasnt been here  hasnt said anything ive paid attention to when she has been here. Could vote here but would basically be a vote on an inactive

[dicetosser1]

Dice, do you have a new set of reads please?

 

Who do you want to see lynched today and who not.

ninjad

[Yates]

Also note  Csarmi Yates and AJ can probably tell you my role never mind my alignment lol

Truth.

[Yates]

Sorry this took so long...

 

sili, doesn't look good when you look back, and womby and can see reasons for and against him there.

 

Womby certainly wasn't instrumental in the lynch of Leelou. He didn't even have her down as much.

Add Aiel Heart to that list. I just finished her ISO [i know - I'm not supposed to be working - so sue me!]. The vote-and-run is one thing. But I didn't see why she chose to STAY on Leelou at EOD other than inertia.

 

 

 

@Heart -

[i did a lot of snipping - just click the link if you want the whole post] can you please explain your read progression on me from this:

*Yates

—like his read ups

 

SUM UP

 

A lot of people are leaning town for me right now, but it’s day one and no one has made any major mistakes yet, and we have nothing solid to go on. Day ones are always hard for me for that reason.

 

My strongest town reads are probably Laine, Shad and Yates, and I’m feeling fairly good about Zander and Eldrick as well.

To this???

Yates

—Once again, a dead horse.

—Didn’t like some seph things, didn’t like some of the early votes

—Gave a few reads, made a case on Durin, defended seph against Zander at one point, didn’t like Sooh’s post.

—a lot of stuff is either jokey or math talk in his ISO

—I have liked quite a few of his posts, and I also know that life has been busy for him which I can empathize with, but there has also been a lot more talking without actually saying anything than usual, and that feels a bit off to me.

I can agree with the scum read, though the Therbal one is stronger for me. I feel much more conflicted about labeling him scummy for whatever reason (it may just be because he’s one of the people that I’m always inclined to feel more nebulous about), however at this point we could also get a good deal of information from his lynch. Would like to hear more from him before death though.

He’s sort of like a high strong scum…? Idk, something here is off for me and I don’t like it

 

Strong Scum

Yates (something off here)

I didn't see anything in ISO so I'm sitting here assuming it's because of prevailing thread consensus. Am I wrong?

[Talya]

Maybe it was more reading what others have said?

[Talya]

@Dice...what do you think of AJ and Yates.

[dicetosser1]

im thinking its in Heart or sili.

 

sili has been extremely quiet and un sili like. he got lynched for it last game and flipped mafia. Confessed to having problems when disinterested in the game and that he doesnt like being mafia iirc

 

Heart i have already made points on

[Yates]

Maybe it was more reading what others have said?

Another way of saying "prevailing thread consensus," imo. But I'd really like to hear the answer from her.

[Talya]

@ Dice - But what about AJ and Yates?

 

@ Yates...oh yeah...brain is fading!

[dicetosser1]

Ive been whinging and paranoid at AJ lately because he has been different. And he thought i was nuts til i finally explained it. Those catch up posts he did? thats my pure AJ Town tone.  Someone said something yesterday about Wombat that made me go AAHHH   they aRE town  so im clear there

 

Yates  its possible cause god knows the sneaky SK SOAB can trick me  but I dont think so. Mafia Yates doesnt quit that reread for example. he does it and uses it against people.

His tone is good. The C3po claim is normal tho null   i think town

[Talya]

Will be a long day tomorrow, so no computer only phone.

[Yates]

Would it help if I gave you my word as a Protocol Droid........?

 

I swear on the soul of my maker, Anakin Skywalker, I am not a serial killer.

[Talya]

I can't C3P0 being a serial killer,

 

What were hoping to do at break of day, something to do with your role. To prove you are town? Or have I missed something

[Yates]

Yeah. I said if I had to I would full claim. But really one of the people that knows what's up the most is dead but going to be alive. Soon.

 

And with that. I'm out for the day. I'll try to log in tonight but no promises.

[Yates]

Also, NA's didn't go quite the way I thought. So I'm maybe less cleared than I thought I might be.

[WWWwombat]

Sooh's latest posts look pretty scummy to me.  Chasing bad over scum on Csarmi and being weirded out by the kills when the Shad kill looked pretty obvious to me.  Still very uneasy about Yates and don't know why I should have him as a town read, let alone lock clear.  Also, Csarmi, you're not lock clear or a town leader and you probably never will be this game.  Deal with it.

[Sili Quirrels]

im thinking its in Heart or sili.

 

sili has been extremely quiet and un sili like. he got lynched for it last game and flipped mafia. Confessed to having problems when disinterested in the game and that he doesnt like being mafia iirc

 

Heart i have already made points on

I have over 300 posts. Wtf.