A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Gabriel Kross]

[unvote]  [v]Verbal[/v] You know what. Let's trust this. I didn't like how long it actually took to get Verbal to actual discuss the earlier game that he hadn't been a participant in, I jokingly called him scummy for it, but let's see what pans out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm sorry I got suckered in to a discussion and then a couple of turbos elsewhere.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is anyone actually going to open the spoilers and read anything I say if I continue the long Verbal MQ?

 

I don't think it will actually affect anyone's opinion one way or the other, it just feels like busywork and I'm tried, guys.

[dicetosser1]

i will cause im trying to see the argument thats being made on him

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you read him town?

[Eldrick4221]

I will, and would like to know your opinion on him. I'm about to ISO him and get my own impression.

 

BTW, how long left on the DL?

[Eldrick4221]

How did Verb know Tina was going to vote him without reading the thread?

[Eldrick4221]

I didn't like how Verb started off, with his nonchalant attitude and skimming. It wasn't scummy, but it was annoying. I'm glad it didn't continue.

 

Ok. Verb mentions that he's protecting Sooh, when Yates says he has a bullet for her. Not sure if this is a PR soft claim or not, but it is a point in Verb's favor.

 

Not sure why he specifically mentions Pizza off of seph's town list. He hadn't mentioned him yet.

 

Somewhere between post 865 and post 874, Verb goes from 'not being able to read Pizza' to 'Pizza is probably town'. Going to look more into this.

 

Verb thinks the back and forth between AJ and Yates 1.0 is w/w. Different team members scumhunting each other. When Yates summarizes the interactions, and asks if he is misconstruing it, Verb says that he is being accurate. Being he also believes that they are both wolves, this comes off to me as a townie helping mafia build a case on another mafia.

 

Verb asks for Leelou to give her opinion on his posts @ Yates, because he trusts her. Why should he trust her, if he doesn't know her alignment?

 

I'm perfectly ok with him replying who he would want to lynch as "probably seph" and not voting yet. He was asked a question, not building a case and committing a vote.

 

I agree with Verb, about Krak townreading everyone atm. If you don't have time to sort them, you have them in null, not town. Point against Krak. Null for Verb here, as feeling this way doesn't affect alignment.

 

I have to quote this part, to show the blatant inconsistency:

 

 

Why do you feel good about Sooh being village?

 

There's enough interest in voting for her that I think her team would be bussing her at this point.

 

I've spoken to her for a very long time in a short time frame before the game on a personal basis and there's nothing out of character for her in this entire game.

 

 

The bold helps, btw, but still not enough to mark her town (which you're obviously doing).

 

Bolding the part that mentions 'her team would be bussing her', and then claiming that he is 'obviously marking her as town'. I haven't heard town referred to as a team, in reference to bussing. This feels really off.

 

Verb gives flak about not unvoting a claimed PR that isn't cc'd, but then defends his own not removing because Yates got names mixed up, and he didn't unvote until THAT was resolved. Why so hypocritical? That is not a reason to continue voting a claimed PR. Not trusting it, sure. Because they mixed up names? No.

 

I've already addressed my view on the feeling of Sooh and Leelou not being w/w. What you're saying is they can't both be w, but you have already discussed the idea of the teams 'scumhunting' each other. Not happy with the inconsistency. They could both be wolves. Implying that is isn't an option is bad.

 

 

 

 

[Eldrick4221]

There were some things in Verb's favor, but a lot that weren't.

 

[v]Verb[/v]

[Eldrick4221]

If I'm reading this correctly, there are about 7 hours left before phase ends. I'm going to go get an updated VC, so it's here for you guys when you get on.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Unofficial Vote Count

 

AJ (2/20): Krak, Pizza

Sooh (2/20): Hally, Dice

Hally (1/20): Laine

Krak (2/20): Talya, AJ

Verb (3/20): Yates, EP, Eldrick

 

Not Voting: Sooh, Alot, Heart, Thane, Verbal, Leelou, Taborline, seph, Tina, Batass

 

By referencing OP and Day 2 day start time, there should be about 7 hours left until deadline.

 

 

[Eldrick4221]

Now then, Pizza, why the scum read on Talya? I'm gonna ISO her next and try to see what you see. You mentioned she was your target for the day when you voted her, but didn't say why.

[Leelou]

Not really sure where you got your vc from Eldrick, but I never unvoted Krak. Updated below

 

UNOfficial Vote Count Four:
 
AndreJ(1/11): Krak
Sooh (2/11): Hallia, Dice
Talya (1/11): Pizza
Hallia (1/11): Alannalynn
Krak (3/11): Talya, Leelou, AndreJ
Verb (3/11): Yates, EP, Eldrick
 
Not Voting (11/20):
Sooh, Aiel Heart, Thane, Verb, Taborline, Seph, Tina, Batassery, Alot
 
With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.  

[Leelou]

Yates: LALALALALA I'm not doing anything

 

mafia so stressful.

Not for me. I'm putting in no effort and making EP a double voter by end of the day. Makes things easy. I don't even need to read!!!!!!!!!!! LAWLLLLLLZORZ

 

 

to: OMG U GUYZ WHY ISN'T VERB DEAD YET?!

Why aren't you people listening to Sili? Verb is scum, yall.

 

Interesting burst, not sure what to make of it yet. 

[Leelou]

 

Sili is great and all but him flipping town doesn't mean his read was correct. You know this.

No. But him being right means he's correct.

 

Sili even left off Verb trying to intimidate Leelou out of his solve, which was mighty white of him. Leelou would need to confirm that this intimidation tactic is something he uses on her as a wolf.

 

 

I'll answer this after what you tell me you think of my alignment this game. 

[alannalynn]

Unvote

 

I need to go back and look at the thread now that I'm off work and home. I tried to read a little during breaks but my coworkers expect me to talk to them for some reason >.>

[Leelou]

Eldrick, I really want to pick apart your Verbal case up there. Needless to say, I don't really like it. 

[Eldrick4221]

Eldrick, I really want to pick apart your Verbal case up there. Needless to say, I don't really like it. 

Feel free. I'd like any input you got.

 

Also sorry about the VC mixup. Have no idea how that happened. Converted from this list, and I messed up.

 

 

 

All Votes. (Format: Voter - Vote)

Krak – AJ

Hally – Sooh

Pizza – Talya

Yates – AJ

Yates – Unvote

EP – Thane

Laine – Hally

Eldrick – Thane

Eldrick – Unvote

Pizza – Unvote/AJ

Talya – Krak

Alot – Leelou

Leelou – Krak

Yates – Sooh

EP – Unvote/Leelou

AJ – Krak

Alot – Unvote

Dice – Sooh

Eldrick – Unvote

Yates – Unvote/Verb

EP – Unvote/Verb

Eldrick – Verb

 

(I didn't count Sili's vote)

 

Latest Unique Votes:

Krak – AJ

Hally – Sooh

Laine – Hally

Pizza – Unvote/AJ

Talya – Krak

Leelou – Krak

AJ – Krak

Dice – Sooh

Yates – Unvote/Verb

EP – Unvote/Verb

Eldrick – Verb

 

 

 

If there were any more inconsistencies, I apologize. I'm only human :P

[alannalynn]

Eldrick, I really want to pick apart your Verbal case up there. Needless to say, I don't really like it. 

I thought his case was pretty clear

 

I also went back to read Sili's case and read the ISO on Verbal, and I can agree to this lynch for today. I'll be back and forth to see if anything changes before deadline and hoping I don't fall asleep. Vote: Verbal

[Eldrick4221]

 

Somewhere between post 865 and post 874, Verb goes from 'not being able to read Pizza' to 'Pizza is probably town'. Going to look more into this.

 

So I went back to check (Page 44, if you want to look yourself).

 

In the span of 15 mins, with no interaction with or about Pizza whatsoever, Verb has a drastic view change on him.

[alannalynn]

 

 

Somewhere between post 865 and post 874, Verb goes from 'not being able to read Pizza' to 'Pizza is probably town'. Going to look more into this.

 

So I went back to check (Page 44, if you want to look yourself).

 

In the span of 15 mins, with no interaction with or about Pizza whatsoever, Verb has a drastic view change on him.

 

Yeah I went back and looked at that too and didn't see any mention on Pizza that would change his mind.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm sorry I didn't finish the Verbal multiquote. I fell asleep.

 

I'm so behind on my sleep. I really wish I didn't have to work so much this week.

 

I don't think I'm going to do one. I'm sorry if this lets my team down. I just can't focus on this for that long, and I'm really not used to this forum's setup, I can't do a search that only pulls up that player's posts, I have to multiquote everything manually... so many pages.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I want people to remove their votes from Krak.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How did Verb know Tina was going to vote him without reading the thread?

He did read the thread. He was lying because he's guilty.

[Askthepizzaguy]

i will cause im trying to see the argument thats being made on him

Do you read him town?

I thought this was an easy question to answer.