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Leelou Spam Master

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No, you typically are a bit more cautious as scum. What are your reads as of right now? 

 

Hally scum

Verb scum lean

You town lean

Cass town lean

NotBob town lean

Yates town lean

Dice town

 

Everyone else null

 

 

I highly disagree with your scum reads. 

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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@Verb and Hally - Can you bold the parts that you took exception to or are looking at as suspicious? I'm just not seeing it:

I'm definitely suspecting Hallia. (The world has returned to normal, I guess?) I think I outlined it earlier, but I just don't get her play at EOD. She claims she was pretty much online the last 2 or 3 hours leading up to the lynch. I checked back, and the last time she posted (before she turned up about 10 minutes before the deadline) was about an hour and a half before deadline - she posted a couple of times then, and was only posting about her vote on dice, and dice voting her. So I don't get her turning up so close to deadline and being so against the Sili lynch and trying to stop it when there obviously is no time. I don't get sitting back and watching that last couple of hours and not saying anything to try and stop Sili's lynch, or trying to ask others if we can consolidate elsewhere.

 

She votes for dice a few hours before deadline - okay, fine. He was her top scum suspect, and maybe she's thinking others will follow her vote. But I just think at some point you realize this isn't going to happen - and no, not so late as ten minutes before deadline - and start asking if others who are online are willing to lynch elsewhere. You know? The only townie explanation I can put together on her behavior is that she really thought others would follow her onto dice, even though pretty much no one else was talking about lynching him, and she wasn't pushing him as a candidate at others, either.

 

 

How's that?  I don't see any of that as suspicious.  I would never call somebody out for that - seems too nitpicky to me.

 

 

 

 

 

It's possible.  I haven't ISO'd Thane yet though to see what else he said.  Nolder appears null to me atm.

He "doc-slipped." That's about it.

 

 

Thane Doc slipped?  Or Nolder?  Because I saw that Thane was heavily implying he had a PR, which is why I assume he was NKed.  I would have done the same - he was being obvious that he was a PR.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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No, you typically are a bit more cautious as scum. What are your reads as of right now? 

 

Hally scum

Verb scum lean

You town lean

Cass town lean

NotBob town lean

Yates town lean

Dice town

 

Everyone else null

 

 

Hahahahahaha.  Really?  Is it because I'm voting you, by chance?

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@Yates

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Hold on, I think I really follow now.  Alanna, you're saying it is suspicious of Hallia to "be around", but wait until right before deadline to argue for Sili, when it was clearly too late.  Gotcha.

 

My bad on that - I was actively thinking & reading about Wombat's posts, and wasn't paying enough attention to this.  I'm a typical guy and can only focus on one thing at a time, heh.

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@Yates

@Alanna

 

Hold on, I think I really follow now.  Alanna, you're saying it is suspicious of Hallia to "be around", but wait until right before deadline to argue for Sili, when it was clearly too late.  Gotcha.

 

My bad on that - I was actively thinking & reading about Wombat's posts, and wasn't paying enough attention to this.  I'm a typical guy and can only focus on one thing at a time, heh.

 

@Hallia-  what do you make of this?

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@Yates

@Alanna

 

Hold on, I think I really follow now.  Alanna, you're saying it is suspicious of Hallia to "be around", but wait until right before deadline to argue for Sili, when it was clearly too late.  Gotcha.

 

My bad on that - I was actively thinking & reading about Wombat's posts, and wasn't paying enough attention to this.  I'm a typical guy and can only focus on one thing at a time, heh.

 

Yup

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I already responded to it when Sili said it. Go read the thread.

I think it is pretty obvious that I have been reading the thread.  But ok, I'll bite.  I pulled the relevant quotes for you:

 

 

 

 

Wombat just said I should be upset.

 

Earlier he said my frustration at being voted was scummy.

 

Wombat clearly knows that it's natural for me to be upset, but he used that sort of reaction to further his scum read of me earlier today.

 

Guys, wombat is scum. :/

 

Where did I use that and why does it matter?  Earlier today was not EoD.

 

 

This was your first response to Sili, and (to me) the most important.....as the next one came after it was clear SIli wasn't buying this response.  If I'm a townie, I'm not going to dignify responding more than once.....but you decided to respond again in an entirely different way.

 

 

 

 

Finally, your frustration and demands for people to "case" you are giving me a "caught for the wrong reasons" vibe rather than an "OMG I'M OBVTOWN" vibe.

 

You mean this?  I was talking about the difference between scum frustration and town frustration.  Both are frustration.

 

 

Had this been what you said the first time, I think I may have been more inclined to accept it.  You're trying to split hairs.  You said Sili's frustration was scummy.  Hard stop.  Then you said you expected him to be mad (basically the same as frustration).  That is a contradiction.  This really makes me think you fired from the hip in your initial response....realized it was a crap response, and then thought more about how to brush it off and came up with this.

 

How am I doing so far?

 

 

Not good.  I did fire from the hip in my initial response because I hadn't gone looking for what Sili was talking about yet.  I didn't really want to go digging for quotes for 20 minutes for a guy I thought was scum if I didn't have to. 

 

What you seem to be missing or ignoring about the first "frustration" quote is that it's mainly about tone, not frustration.  Both scenarios I referenced in it are situations in which a player is frustrated.  One is for town reasons, and the other is for scum reasons.  You usually don't need this kind of thing explained.

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Thane Doc slipped?  Or Nolder?

so.... without explanation required (from all of you, would be nice):

 

Vig: ?

Cop: ?

 

this would help me quite some.

i left doc out on purpose, yates

WWWwombat Spam Master

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No, you typically are a bit more cautious as scum. What are your reads as of right now? 

 

Hally scum

Verb scum lean

You town lean

Cass town lean

NotBob town lean

Yates town lean

Dice town

 

Everyone else null

 

 

Hahahahahaha.  Really?  Is it because I'm voting you, by chance?

 

 

With crappy arguments.

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My bad on that - I was actively thinking & reading about Wombat's posts, and wasn't paying enough attention to this.  I'm a typical guy and can only focus on one thing at a time, heh.

Glad I don't have to do the "your response was worthless" post I was already formulating in my head. :wub:
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No, you typically are a bit more cautious as scum. What are your reads as of right now? 

 

Hally scum

Verb scum lean

You town lean

Cass town lean

NotBob town lean

Yates town lean

Dice town

 

Everyone else null

 

 

I highly disagree with your scum reads. 

 

 

ok...

Yates Master

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Before we lynch Wombat, can we hear from Nolder, Sooh, and Cass? I think having their opinions on the Wombat wagon will be helpful later.

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Ok so I went back and looked. After voting Dice I was on (don't have time stamps on mobile ><)

 

But here was some back and forth with Dice. And the a bit later so some with Wombat, and THEN the back and forth with you - so it looks like I was on consistently to me.

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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As much as I hate to do this...

 

@Mod - I believe my Mason buddy is due a prod

Been done waiting till end of today for a reponse. Without one I'll replace if possible.

Yates Master

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Before we lynch Wombat, can we hear from Nolder, Sooh, and Cass? I think having their opinions on the Wombat wagon will be helpful later.

OMG! And Dice!! How did I forget Dice??!!
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Before we lynch Wombat, can we hear from Nolder, Sooh, and Cass? I think having their opinions on the Wombat wagon will be helpful later.

 

Or we could just not lynch Wombat and try to lynch scum.

Yates Master

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As much as I hate to do this...

@Mod - I believe my Mason buddy is due a prod


Been done waiting till end of today for a reponse. Without one I'll replace if possible.

 

Mod confirmed Masons!   :wub:

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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I already responded to it when Sili said it. Go read the thread.

I think it is pretty obvious that I have been reading the thread.  But ok, I'll bite.  I pulled the relevant quotes for you:

 

 

 

 

Wombat just said I should be upset.

 

Earlier he said my frustration at being voted was scummy.

 

Wombat clearly knows that it's natural for me to be upset, but he used that sort of reaction to further his scum read of me earlier today.

 

Guys, wombat is scum. :/

 

Where did I use that and why does it matter?  Earlier today was not EoD.

 

 

This was your first response to Sili, and (to me) the most important.....as the next one came after it was clear SIli wasn't buying this response.  If I'm a townie, I'm not going to dignify responding more than once.....but you decided to respond again in an entirely different way.

 

 

 

 

Finally, your frustration and demands for people to "case" you are giving me a "caught for the wrong reasons" vibe rather than an "OMG I'M OBVTOWN" vibe.

 

You mean this?  I was talking about the difference between scum frustration and town frustration.  Both are frustration.

 

 

Had this been what you said the first time, I think I may have been more inclined to accept it.  You're trying to split hairs.  You said Sili's frustration was scummy.  Hard stop.  Then you said you expected him to be mad (basically the same as frustration).  That is a contradiction.  This really makes me think you fired from the hip in your initial response....realized it was a crap response, and then thought more about how to brush it off and came up with this.

 

How am I doing so far?

 

 

Not good.  I did fire from the hip in my initial response because I hadn't gone looking for what Sili was talking about yet.  I didn't really want to go digging for quotes for 20 minutes for a guy I thought was scum if I didn't have to. 

 

What you seem to be missing or ignoring about the first "frustration" quote is that it's mainly about tone, not frustration.  Both scenarios I referenced in it are situations in which a player is frustrated.  One is for town reasons, and the other is for scum reasons.  You usually don't need this kind of thing explained.

 

 

I don't need it explained now, either.  I already addressed your reasoning.  Read the thread.  ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

Thane Doc slipped?  Or Nolder?

so.... without explanation required (from all of you, would be nice):

 

Vig: ?

Cop: ?

 

this would help me quite some.

i left doc out on purpose, yates

 

 

I thought that was what you meant - it isn't even what I picked up on.  He was laying it on pretty thick, and I was actually thinking Cop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, you typically are a bit more cautious as scum. What are your reads as of right now? 

 

Hally scum

Verb scum lean

You town lean

Cass town lean

NotBob town lean

Yates town lean

Dice town

 

Everyone else null

 

 

Hahahahahaha.  Really?  Is it because I'm voting you, by chance?

 

 

With crappy arguments.

 

 

Right, like I've never been a townie with crappy arguments before, lol.  We all have - your "argument" for the scum lean is........wait for it........................crappy.

 

 

 

 

 

My bad on that - I was actively thinking & reading about Wombat's posts, and wasn't paying enough attention to this.  I'm a typical guy and can only focus on one thing at a time, heh.

Glad I don't have to do the "your response was worthless" post I was already formulating in my head. :wub:

 

 

Shut it!

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As much as I hate to do this...

 

@Mod - I believe my Mason buddy is due a prod

Been done waiting till end of today for a reponse. Without one I'll replace if possible.

 

Mod confirmed Masons!   :wub:

 

lolno

 

But Womby is scum

 

nope.avi

Kaylee Spam Master

Kaylee

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As much as I hate to do this...

 

@Mod - I believe my Mason buddy is due a prod

Been done waiting till end of today for a reponse. Without one I'll replace if possible.

Mod confirmed Masons! :wub:

No Mod confirmed poking him in PM. Nice try

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