Warehouse 13 Mafia- Mafia Wins!

[Yates]

Yates, you never actually answered my question, why was it that you voted Eldrick for pulling the newb-Town card after sharing your Mafia QT?

Actually, I did answer that question, Cass. A long time ago.

[Thane Vakarian]

gun to the head i'd vote Nolder off of gut feeling, but there's nothing to base the vote on, so there's that

[Yates]

 

Yates, you never actually answered my question, why was it that you voted Eldrick for pulling the newb-Town card after sharing your Mafia QT?

Actually, I did answer that question, Cass. A long time ago.

 

In case you are phone posting:

 

Wait, when was it again he played the newb town card to clear himself?

"I have a GREAT idea! Let's kill one of the Masons to prove the claim because scum totally won't kill the other after the first flips Town!! OH! And we should test this claim on the more active of the two Masons just to make this as +EV as humanly possible! I. AM. A. GENIUS."

 

[Yates]

gun to the head i'd vote Nolder off of gut feeling, but there's nothing to base the vote on, so there's that

There's got to be something there that makes your gut feel uneasy... What is it? Talk to me brother!

[Hallia]

O.o CFD on Thane?

[Thane Vakarian]

it's hard to explain gut feelings... i dunno... he seems easy going, nothing really out of the ordinary, but not a lot of posts, nothing constructive from his catch up.... i would have expected a tad more... 

[Thane Vakarian]

O.o CFD on Thane?

bring it

[Cass]

 

Yates, you never actually answered my question, why was it that you voted Eldrick for pulling the newb-Town card after sharing your Mafia QT?

Actually, I did answer that question, Cass. A long time ago.

 

Really?

 

I don't remember reading that?

[Thane Vakarian]

with that, night folks

[Thane Vakarian]

might be back in an hour or so... 

[Cass]

Sorry, missed the additional post.

 

That was the answer to Sili's question though, not mine. 

 

/snip

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

I just scummed with you, bro. Wrong move to play the newb Town card with me. Nothing you are saying is within striking distance of smart Town play.

The jibe at the end seems off in tone and tbh, I don't understand why you'd reference his behaviour with 'newb Town card'. I may have thought his reasoning was strange and sloppy and quite possibly motivated by scum, but I didn't see him trying to justify that by being new. 

I'm reading him exactly the same way as I did in the Arthurian game you reference. I have no idea if this is just the way he posts or if it is indicative of his alignment. I'm conscious of the possibility for both. Was there something in your scum chat that suggested he was directly using this tactic in that game?

 

 

TLDR version:

Did you vote him because you thought he was more experienced/adept than he let on in the game he played as scum, or not?

My gut agrees with Hallia here, but your reasoning for vote-unvote may have an influence on that.

[Sili Quirrels]

Deadline is in 6 hours?

[Sili Quirrels]

Ill look up hallia and leelou. From a cursorary glance nolder doesnt look like too wolfish.

 

Not bob has mostly bad content. Every now and again he makes a good post though.

 

A no lynch is fine. Eq. To a vigilante holstering.

[Cass]

Is it 6 or 4?

 

The counter I have up on screen says 4hrs. (Is there any technical reason that link/counter might have changed without updating?) I have daycare drop off and real estate appointment either side of the 4 hour mark.

[Sili Quirrels]

I was doing mental arithmetic. Im probably wrong before the clock is.

[Hallia]

That isn't what he's doing though. By not voting he's leaving it in the hands of others and not taking responsibility. If he wants to do that he needs to vote 'no lynch'

 

With hybrid it's kind of required

[Yates]

TLDR version:

Did you vote him because you thought he was more experienced/adept than he let on in the game he played as scum, or not?

My gut agrees with Hallia here, but your reasoning for vote-unvote may have an influence on that.

Basically, yes. He says stuff like this:

I don't remember an exact count. I'm not new though.

 

Besides the games I have played on here, I have played Werewolf, the RL version, and I play on Town of Salem, a browser game version of mafia.

Haven't played forum mafia in quite some time (reads as "years"). I got really burned out and it just wasn't fun anymore.

 

But Town of Salem has gotten me interested again.

 

By the way, don't nightklill Darthe. I want him to stay a lynch target for now at least.

As I'm catching up with today's activity, I noticed the interchange between Cass and Darthe, and briefly considered having Darthe die, to put suspicion on Cass. But, that's stupid for other reasons.

 

Also, I didn't realize it was you that suggested having cop check me. And you didn't say you were going to do it personally, just saying. You said 'the cop should'

So his ability to see a mislynch target, for example, speaks to experience and instinct. And trusting his partner [me] to get him false cleared and rolling with it isn't newb either. Plus he has a bunch of posts where he analyzes roles and how things could play out. So when he pushed that half-baked mason idea it just didn't read like someone who had thought things through - OR like someone who HAD thought things through, if you know what I mean.

 

I you need me to explain further why I'm backing off and thinking he's probably Town just go look at where he replaces in to our scum Qt beginning at post 27. Remember how Zasha had all that pressure early in Day 1? He went in and became active enough to defuse that situation and gave a "reads" list with scum on it. Plus the guy talks about fake claims and setting people up and stuff like that. These are the types of actions I would expect from scum Eldrick. These aren't things that happened because of his partners, those were his natural instincts.

[Cass]

Hallia, what are your thoughts on Sili?

[Yates]

A no lynch is fine. Eq. To a vigilante holstering.

A mislynch is worth more than a no lynch. Though in a hybrid game where majority isn't required, maybe it's not as terrible. It just really hinders us for VCA and makes us super reliant on NA's. And that doesn't make me comfortable.

[Yates]

FTR - I'm out in 30 minutes so... Not sure I'll get back on before deadline but I'll try.

[Kaylee]

Is it 6 or 4?

 

The counter I have up on screen says 4hrs. (Is there any technical reason that link/counter might have changed without updating?) I have daycare drop off and real estate appointment either side of the 4 hour mark.

It's in 4 hours

[Sili Quirrels]

Hallia, what are your thoughts on Sili?

Whats the likelyhood i tripped a couple triggers? Im town cass.

 

Town should not be gambling on cfding me.

[Yates]

Whats the likelyhood i tripped a couple triggers?

Very good. Practically guaranteed. What's the likelihood you are scum? TBD.

[Sili Quirrels]

None. But i gaurantee scum are out to lynch me over others and ive hinted at arole long enough i can probably attract a night kill.

[Yates]

Sili - I want you to remember the discussion we had in Arthurian about roles and how different mods assign them. It will be important at some point.