[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Eldrick4221]

@Sili: Yes, your erratic actions this day are bugging me.

[Sili Quirrels]

I don't see how following is inherently non-town. The only one I have a gut bad feeling about is Datthe, and I'm sick of that not going anywhere. So yes, I went with the crowd. Sue me.

I hope you know I won't be lynched today and your only chance for survival is to lynch yates or dice.

 

With that in mind, you should probably start doing some work, and stop following the crowd because the crowd now wants to lynch you. ##

[Sili Quirrels]

@Sili: Yes, your erratic actions this day are bugging me.

They aren't erratic. I disagreed with risking the game to clear leelou. I've wanted you and Dice lynched for a long time. I'm not 100% on Yates yet.

[Darthe]

2052 is right and we don't have long until DL do we?

[Sili Quirrels]

@Darthe, you earlier felt like thane was a sure bet. has that changed?

[Sili Quirrels]

2052 is right and we don't have long until DL do we?

I think we have until monday or tuesday.

[Darthe]

 

@Sili: Yes, your erratic actions this day are bugging me.

They aren't erratic. I disagreed with risking the game to clear leelou. I've wanted you and Dice lynched for a long time. I'm not 100% on Yates yet.

 

If we are wrong on someone I think it is Eldrick.  His play as a whole can be explained by inexperience.  That's tough to make a call on so early.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

@Sili: Yes, your erratic actions this day are bugging me.

They aren't erratic. I disagreed with risking the game to clear leelou. I've wanted you and Dice lynched for a long time. I'm not 100% on Yates yet.

 

If we are wrong on someone I think it is Eldrick.  His play as a whole can be explained by inexperience.  That's tough to make a call on so early.

 

It is a shame if Eldrick is town. I agree. So hopefully you or Clov can do something tonight to narrow down the poe a little.

 

And the more content we have to work with the better too.

[Darthe]

@Darthe, you earlier felt like thane was a sure bet. has that changed?

If I had to provide quantitative rationale here I am 85% on Yates, 70% on Thane, 60% on Eldrick and ~40% on Leelou.  Dice is the only guarantee but I am willing to take a risk on Yates.  I don't like the odds onthe others.

[Yates]

First of all, I'm Sir Galahad. So kindly get to stepping.

Second, I'm not finished getting caught up but trying to CFD on someone after CONFIRMING they are offline is weaksauce. I think you just showed your asphalt, Darthe.

 

I'm going to be looking into who was online at the time and why people thought that I was a reasonable scum candidate.

[Sili Quirrels]

First of all, I'm Sir Galahad. So kindly get to stepping.

Second, I'm not finished getting caught up but trying to CFD on someone after CONFIRMING they are offline is weaksauce. I think you just showed your asphalt, Darthe.

 

I'm going to be looking into who was online at the time and why people thought that I was a reasonable scum candidate.

Mostly poe as far as I understood. You won't find a good case.

[Yates]

JC - I got to L-2 while I was offline based on "POE?" WTF. This is why we are about to lose this game...

 

For those of you saying I've done nothing:

1. *I* found Dice to be not Town. *I* am the one that applied the pressure that Dice responded to. Clov just sold a fake read.

2. You guys are giving Leelou props for being willing to prove her role - even though she hasn't actually proven her role? That whole plan was *MY* idea. I'm not in the business of clearing Townies when I am scum. I'm in the business of throwing EVERYONE into the POE and keeping them there.

 

Finally - this is more of a minor point but bears being stated:

3. My hands are "dirty" on two Town lynches in a row. I don't put myself into a position where I have that much blood on my hands. I find a good reason to fake clear one Townie that is a guaranteed mislynch so I can push the POE towards Townies on the mislynch. Look at ANY of my scum games. This is a true statement.

[Sili Quirrels]

JC - I got to L-2 while I was offline based on "POE?" WTF. This is why we are about to lose this game...

 

For those of you saying I've done nothing:

1. *I* found Dice to be not Town. *I* am the one that applied the pressure that Dice responded to. Clov just sold a fake read.

2. You guys are giving Leelou props for being willing to prove her role - even though she hasn't actually proven her role? That whole plan was *MY* idea. I'm not in the business of clearing Townies when I am scum. I'm in the business of throwing EVERYONE into the POE and keeping them there.

 

Finally - this is more of a minor point but bears being stated:

3. My hands are "dirty" on two Town lynches in a row. I don't put myself into a position where I have that much blood on my hands. I find a good reason to fake clear one Townie that is a guaranteed mislynch so I can push the POE towards Townies on the mislynch. Look at ANY of my scum games. This is a true statement.

I don't think anyone thinks that this is the standard 'wolf' or 'town' game from you. Normally you have a lot of presence.

 

Serious, curiosity question Yates: would you give me a town read as scum? I feel like you'd leave me open as a mislynch, but I don't know for sure.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

facepalm...gimme a break sili. get over it. You want to play all erratic and do stoopid stuff like you did in that leelou test you have to expect people will suspect you cause you dont give people reason to lock you in as town.

Me too. I'm getting sick of it.

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

Uh, did you just vote me at lylo because you're sick of ???

 

Anyway, I don't care if Dice doesn't have me as blue clear. What Dice shouldn't be doing is clearing Darthe or Leelou. That's just irresponsible.

 

 

 

Explain why sili? Why should I not have reads.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see how following is inherently non-town. The only one I have a gut bad feeling about is Datthe, and I'm sick of that not going anywhere. So yes, I went with the crowd. Sue me.

I hope you know I won't be lynched today and your only chance for survival is to lynch yates or dice.

 

With that in mind, you should probably start doing some work, and stop following the crowd because the crowd now wants to lynch you. ##

 

 

 

quote went stoopid but im telling you this. You need to stop threatening people because they disagree with you. That goes for Darthe too.

[Yates]

Serious, curiosity question Yates: would you give me a town read as scum? I feel like you'd leave me open as a mislynch, but I don't know for sure.

I think I have in the past. I'd have to look. That said, your work of late has been - not good.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

facepalm...gimme a break sili. get over it. You want to play all erratic and do stoopid stuff like you did in that leelou test you have to expect people will suspect you cause you dont give people reason to lock you in as town.

Me too. I'm getting sick of it.

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

Uh, did you just vote me at lylo because you're sick of ???

 

Anyway, I don't care if Dice doesn't have me as blue clear. What Dice shouldn't be doing is clearing Darthe or Leelou. That's just irresponsible.

 

 

 

Explain why sili? Why should I not have reads.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see how following is inherently non-town. The only one I have a gut bad feeling about is Datthe, and I'm sick of that not going anywhere. So yes, I went with the crowd. Sue me.

I hope you know I won't be lynched today and your only chance for survival is to lynch yates or dice.

 

With that in mind, you should probably start doing some work, and stop following the crowd because the crowd now wants to lynch you. ##

 

 

 

quote went stoopid but im telling you this. You need to stop threatening people because they disagree with you. That goes for Darthe too.

 

 

I'm applying pressure to a candidate for scum, Dice. It's what town does.

 

Uhm, you should have decent reads if you want to help town win. But I guess it's okay if you don't.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Serious, curiosity question Yates: would you give me a town read as scum? I feel like you'd leave me open as a mislynch, but I don't know for sure.

I think I have in the past. I'd have to look. That said, your work of late has been - not good.

 

What's been bad about it?

[Darthe]

ITT Dice thinks facts = threats and Yates thinks that giving a really odd effort when we are within 1-2 people of game-solving is a good idea.

[Darthe]

JC - I got to L-2 while I was offline based on "POE?" WTF. This is why we are about to lose this game...

 

For those of you saying I've done nothing:

1. *I* found Dice to be not Town. *I* am the one that applied the pressure that Dice responded to. Clov just sold a fake read.

2. You guys are giving Leelou props for being willing to prove her role - even though she hasn't actually proven her role? That whole plan was *MY* idea. I'm not in the business of clearing Townies when I am scum. I'm in the business of throwing EVERYONE into the POE and keeping them there.

 

Finally - this is more of a minor point but bears being stated:

3. My hands are "dirty" on two Town lynches in a row. I don't put myself into a position where I have that much blood on my hands. I find a good reason to fake clear one Townie that is a guaranteed mislynch so I can push the POE towards Townies on the mislynch. Look at ANY of my scum games. This is a true statement.

1 Catching dice (if you want to call it that since Clov applied the pressure that forced the actual claim) gains nobody credit

2 Your idea was really risky and Leelou was definitely committed to going through with it (only way that's untrue is if she was able to coordinate this with scum online which would mean we are way off and have essentially already lost)

3 WIFOM and if not you then who is incriminated by those lynches?  Your choices are between Clov and I.  From my POV I know I am town and Clov looks a lot better than you do.  What would you expect me to conclude?  

3.5 It does bring up the question of why the hell people are listening to me so readily after how much of this game I've played crazily...

[Yates]

ITT Dice thinks facts = threats and Yates thinks that giving a really odd effort when we are within 1-2 people of game-solving is a good idea.

Normally you have a lot of presence.

Since coming home from the hospital with a baby that needs to be fed or have a diaper change like every 90 minutes, I think this meta is going to change. I don't have the free time I had before. I'm also wicked sleep deprived on nights when I'm up at 3:00 AM, 4:30 AM, 6:00 AM - then off to work. So I'm not sharp and don't have the ability to gambit right now. If anyone should know this, Darthe, it's you. Do you recall this quote?

You are the only person I know who lies more as town than as a third party

I wasn't being honest because I was third party. I was being honest because I knew I couldn't keep track of any gambits.

 

That said, I was also busy winning that game as an SK for the first part of this game. And that required a lot of my attention.

[Sili Quirrels]

Basically, mafia games day 3 onwards are about two sorts of people:

 

a) those who don't want to work to win, but want to win nevertheless. These people will want to clear whoever makes the most sense in the thread.

b) those who will work to win, and are cognizant no one is really clear. These people will be reluctant to clear anyone, and will therefore be more distrustful of others.

[Darthe]

 

ITT Dice thinks facts = threats and Yates thinks that giving a really odd effort when we are within 1-2 people of game-solving is a good idea.

Normally you have a lot of presence.

Since coming home from the hospital with a baby that needs to be fed or have a diaper change like every 90 minutes, I think this meta is going to change. I don't have the free time I had before. I'm also wicked sleep deprived on nights when I'm up at 3:00 AM, 4:30 AM, 6:00 AM - then off to work. So I'm not sharp and don't have the ability to gambit right now. If anyone should know this, Darthe, it's you. Do you recall this quote?

You are the only person I know who lies more as town than as a third party

I wasn't being honest because I was third party. I was being honest because I knew I couldn't keep track of any gambits.

 

That said, I was also busy winning that game as an SK for the first part of this game. And that required a lot of my attention.

 

If not you then Clov.  God that'd be a hard sell. 

 

Who are your three Yates?  You can update later, just put out three for now.

[Sili Quirrels]

Yates, your opinion on Eldrick and Dice?

[Yates]

3 WIFOM and if not you then who is incriminated by those lynches?

1. You are using WIFOM wrong. It's meta. Meta is a thing.

2. I think you are asking the wrong question. In retrospect I think the fact that the Day 1 lynch didn't go through means we may only have 2 mafia. And yes, I think you pretty much just outed yourself as one of them. Now it's just a matter of finding your scum bro.

[Darthe]

Basically, mafia games day 3 onwards are about two sorts of people:

 

a) those who don't want to work to win, but want to win nevertheless. These people will want to clear whoever makes the most sense in the thread.

b) those who will work to win, and are cognizant no one is really clear. These people will be reluctant to clear anyone, and will therefore be more distrustful of others.

Lol so true