[Basic/Standard] A Wind in the Door Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WINS

[monstrman]

 

And the reason I vote wherever I do is because I always want to have my vote on my strongest scumlean, whatever that is.

Usually it's because I keep a pool of a few players in the game that I haven't cleared and then decide not to lynch the ones I think are villagers.

I had sili as my strongest wolf lean because I want to test his progressions. I don't know if me not being in the thread with hoya at the same time as him makes him not villagery, but he doesn't seem villagery to me.

 

 

so you vote ure strongest scum lean but that strongest scum lean only lasts 20mins??

Its not hard to believe that a person can't make up their mind right away.

[monstrman]

Flip your bottom list

I don't really know if I wanna move halliyates. Why would you?

[Tommyrod]

 

Flip your bottom list

I don't really know if I wanna move halliyates. Why would you?

 

Well he claimed something something and it's in the writeup flavor

[dicetosser1]

 

 

And the reason I vote wherever I do is because I always want to have my vote on my strongest scumlean, whatever that is.

Usually it's because I keep a pool of a few players in the game that I haven't cleared and then decide not to lynch the ones I think are villagers.

I had sili as my strongest wolf lean because I want to test his progressions. I don't know if me not being in the thread with hoya at the same time as him makes him not villagery, but he doesn't seem villagery to me.

 

so you vote ure strongest scum lean but that strongest scum lean only lasts 20mins??

Its not hard to believe that a person can't make up their mind right away.

 

 

 

except you do it regularly lol

 

 

 

yes you need to move yate/halli

[dicetosser1]

and i wanna hear the REASON you think sili is town.

[Tommyrod]

and i wanna hear the REASON you think sili is town.

 

I'll tell you in about 3 hours

[monstrman]

I agree with tom.

 

It's related to something secret atm.

 

Okay I'll buy that for halliyates.

 

I dunno about err then.

 

I'd call for

 

Err/jmm/hoya wagons today.

[Tommyrod]

We got dabes secrets

[dicetosser1]

i expect an answer   and a good one     in 3hrs

[Tommyrod]

You're not cool enough sorry

[dicetosser1]

thats cause im hot stuff   cool is below me.

[Tommyrod]

 

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Sili (3) - Sarmtosser, jmm, Tina
Err (3) - HalliYates, Sili, Manbat
Sleeper (1) - Tommy

Not voting (3): Lenlo, Err, Sleeper


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 2 is Sunday, December 14 @ 9:00 PM MST
Countdown link: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141214T21&p0=197&msg=DAY+TWO+DEADLINE&csz=1

MOD NOTES:
* Because the 72-hour deadline falls on a weekend, I may be convinced to extend the deadline to 9:00 AM MST on Monday if requested.

[dicetosser1]

right its been more then three hrs    Monstr   tommy  spill !!!

[Yates]

Well he claimed something something and it's in the writeup flavor

LOL - I didn't even notice that until just now!

 

So yeah. Unless someone wants to counter claim?

 

HALLIYATES = LOCKCLEAR.

 

Monstr = WOAT Yates reader.

[dicetosser1]

yates whats ure read on monstr??  besides him being unable to read you lol

[Sili Quirrels]

right its been more then three hrs    Monstr   tommy  spill !!!

I don't know why they're town reading me either, so I'm kind of curious myself.

[Niniel]

About my town read on Err.

 

 

@silli with my initial two posts i wouldnt even consider myself as villager. and since i have not played with you before i do not know where you get the idea that i m town???? FYI i am a guy :P

 

This is a comment that we can go back to if Sili or Err turns up mafia. 

 

 

k read up on survivor role...... how do you claim sleeper is mafia??? and that there is a fact where you say there are 2 mafias in total?

 

I often get the feeling with Err that he hasn´t got any mafia friends. Like in this post. It doesn´t sound like he has discussed this with anyone. 

 

oh and then there is post #976 where manbat hints at being a bomb ??? well if he insists its true..... i volunteer to be the last vote for his lynch.... D1, D2 or when ever it comes up... cause i dont believe it

 

I don´t think Err would have volunteered to be the last on a bomb train, not even point out an eventual bomb, if mafia.

 

15 mins!!!!!!!....... lynch is always better then a random kill..... 

 

unvote vote jmm

 

Again, doesn´t seem like someone who is talking with others in the qt.

 

 

Also, he went after Manbat pretty hard, which not many people did. Sounds like he has oppinions of his own.

 

 

That´s why I got a townie feeling from him. 

[Niniel]

Okay, will quote a lot of Sili´s posts. I hope DM works. My point with it is that he rarely takes a stand, town read people before it´s even possible (like he know they are town) and often backtracks. 

[Niniel]

I will post far from everything so this is what I´ve chosen to get you to see my point. More quotes in next post.

 

well i'm not too worried with your slot so far. intuitive types are easier to read.

 

but thane on the other hand... i'll have to work hard not to misread him.

 

His famous defence from D1.

 

morning... just caught up to realize i have three votes on me. thanks for that, but i know this is just to rustle me so i won't fall for it this time. take your brushes elsewhere >.>

 

 

 

hey salami. i'm counting on your wacky intuition to solve the game lol.

 

gonna need an explanation on the lol at the end. . .

 

Usually dingus starts like this.  First post is all posturing, then he warms up and town tells like mad.

 

. . . since the follow-up posts are immediately a different tone

 

One was a joke. The other was me being serious.

 

But good catch.

 

"Good catch". = You are wrong but I think you are town. Why does he assume he is town?

 

 

 

 

Greeting, everyone!  Been out of mafia a while but here goes...

I have to admit this should be amusing to watch you try to read someone you've never seen before… commence!

 

 

yeahh.... it has started.... will take time getting used to tracking all new names for me..... 

 

I am going to say this now so I don't make dumb mistakes later:

 

I think I have a bad tendency to box out players I don't know very well. I haven't played with either of you before, so here's my tl;dr - my name is Cory, I tend to post a lot and get really involved in games. I'm very competitive. So here's a little quick question/answer for both of you - if it seems not game-related or inane please answer it anyway to humor me:

 

1 - Do you prefer being town or Mafia? What aspect of the game do you enjoy?

2 - What do you think makes you valuable as a townie?

3 - What do you think makes you valuable as Mafia?

 

Err, off the top of your head do you have any links from DM you think would be good examples of how you play as a villager and as Mafia? I will probably browse old games when I get the chance for myself but want to give you the opportunity to see what games you are proudest of.

 

 

:) i feel like being interviewed again before a new job :P

 

well i have played 3 games online so far.... however i have played a lot of mafia games with large group of people in the university. 

 

here are the games in the order i have played them

[redacted]

 

1. i have enjoyed playing as both townie and mafia. but i think it was more fun when playing mafia.

2. & 3. dont know about valuable but if i remember correctly (since the last game i played was in more then half a year ago), in the first few days i got suspected/lynched/killed because in the beginning of the game i tried to guess the dynamics of the game (may be over thinking them) e.g. guessing the number and role of mafias/godfather and special role players in the game. people who have played with me might be able to tell better. 

 

It sounds conversational and I like his avatar, thought it goes without saying it's a tone read premised on one post. The blue parts resonated with me. Nothing struck me as dishonest.

 

I get the feeling I'll confuse their gender at some point. Her/him. Talks like a she. Male avatar. Weird.

 

 

How could Err ever have posted answers to these that would sound dishonest? Why would anyone lie in an answer like this? Why does Sili take this as a town tell? As he says, from just one post. I´m not sure if it´s a fluff post (trying to look active) or pre defending Err or whatever. 

 

 

Can you tell me what all of your names are on other sites - I get a bit confused.

 

 

I don´t the emo posts. I don´t know what to do with them. Is it:

 

1. Genuine feelings? If so, I don´t get what started it.

2. Some kind of game play/checking people´s reactions/setting traps etc? If so, I don´t find it to be an enjoyable gamestyle.

3. Trolling? If so, just stop.

 

I could absolutely follow Dice and Csarmi on Tommy. I´m still on Sili because he seams to play a bit cautious. I think that a Tommy lynch would give me some info about other players. 

 

I´m not sure about Manbat. Some of his posts look townie but I didn´t like that he stopped talking to me but turned to Cory to ask about me instead and then just agreed with him. I´m not sure about his oppinions about Tommy either. He seems to be on the fence about him. But as you can see, I´m on the fence about Manbat. 

You have a nice level of paranoia. I can understand it but you have some wacky reads.

 

fwiw we don't lynch for information. that is never happening here.

 

 

He has still not starting to suspect me here. I´m having a "nice level of paranoia" that he "can understand". = It looks like he knows I´m town and trying to win me over by being nice.

 

I skimmed over a lot at first, but I'll do what I can. Jmm seems like he's intent on being anti-town this game; he's probably proud of that, or at least defiant.But it is unhelpful, and I get the impression he would do the same thing regardless of role.

 

Just one of those people.

 

These are the quotes I picked up that seemed relevant.

 

 

 

 

Keep coming with posts like that and you'll tip over in the minus pile, just FIY. I know it's your first time and I don't know how much your mentor is around, but you should be less concerned with how others perceive you and more concerned with how you percieve others. Don't be afraid to contribute, even though you're unfamiliar with the players and forum mafia. Dive right and we'll all have a much nicer time :)

You've got me in that I've never played forum mafia, but I can't agree with you about other's perception. It's pretty much everything.  I may not have shared my perceptions on others yet, but trust me, I've got them.  With no impending lynch or deadline, I see no reason to divulge what I'm thinking yet.  

 

Copied from another thread: "I went to a Christmas smorgasbord today. It was amazing, I tried a lot of things that I have never tasted before. I ate several different pickled herring, different kind of salmons, rabbit, duck, goose, wild boar, fallow deer, red deer, moose and even bear. Afterwards there was cheese and a lot of Christmas candy. I´m so stuffed that I can hardly move. "

 

 

Hard claim Survivor

Sleeper Service is one of two wolves

You guys find the other one

It's probably not Sili since Hoya went after him early and nobody seems rustled with his wagon, including him

 

You are claiming third party? 

 

[/unvote]

 

[v] Tommy [/v]

 

I have played in too many games were town lost because of third party players or claimed third party players. 

 

Just got to this Tina, sorry didn't see the first time:

 

Tell me about Manbat. (=Moster?)

 

 

Up to eight I have a bunch of pluses for monstr 

 

while his WIMMY opening is something he CAN do as mafia he's more likely to do it as a villager. i think he accumulated a good deal of wolf fatigue in the Champs game and I know he really wanted to be a villager in this game and in all honesty a lot of DMers considering "the big villagery open" to actually be relatively conspicuous and one asset that's big in monstr's scum game is that he's inconspicuous if that makes sense. he knows what will or will not get him intro trouble.

 

he continues to go strong, has at least one read i think he's more likely to make as a villager (sili town, which i think could be incorrect but i think monstr interpreting sili's lack of an early filter as villagery is pretty monstrish of him) and i appreciate the way he talks to me and to tom. it would be hard for him to take the line he took with tom irt to me getting aggressive around page ~7 - “it may be tiresome to you tom” - as a wolf. tom points out correctly that monstr doesn't usually get involved in spats between people he likes as a wolf, he usually just reads them villager and giggles

 

there are some things he does early that i log in the back of my mind as mildly mafian and he hasn't touched any of them. his posting just seems pure, filterless and we think similarly. i usually say "i can read monstr perfect by day 2 EOD" but i'm actually pretty close to just bluereading him outright today. i'm extremely confident he's a villager.

 

Okay. Thanks. Good to know.

 

 

So far I feel that Mish/Cory, Dice/Csarmi and Err is town. 

 

 

 

jmm does have TWTBAWW equity tho

 

will think about that one extra hard from my chamber of solitude

TWTBAWW?

 

 

Too Wolfy To Be A WereWolf

 

It's the idea that scum wouldn't act so overtly wolfy in their postings because it'd be borderline suicidal and it's more likely just a player quirk

 

I don't really find it THAT reliable, but there are some players this was a good thing to think about with (Jack_D was a great example)

 

Dunno how jmm plays so comfortable keeping him in an orange, not sure if he's posted much or at all since page 15

 

You're right, it's a player quirk - I'm always this way in mafia games.  

I know it keeps me suspicious but I'm consistent with it.  I wasn't lying when I said I get false lynched a lot.

But to get the ball rolling, let's throw the proverbial wolves a bone:

Vote: Sili

 

 

tl;dr, he likes low hanging fruit, isn't putting much effort in, and i don't know what the bolded means.

 

 

 

 

Slight wolf lean from me, and it's a good place to start.

 

Here he thinks that jmm would be unhelpful both as town and mafia. As far as I understand, he has never played with jmm before. But in the end he get´s slight wolf leans. Kind of like a sitting on the fence post, right?

 

I must have forgotten to post his vote in #641 where he votes jmm. If we take this as his first serious vote then it´s not until page 33. (I´m not sure about this, but I think he voted Hally before this.)

 

Checking in to say I'm here... slanking unintentionally. Seems everytime I go to say something I'm distracted.

Yates, you're being aggressively town, so you get a carrot. Congratulations.

Dice, you shush. If you want my opinion of you to change you'll have to prove my opinion wrong. Simple as that.

Jmm, you're anti-town. Wanna make that clear.

Whoever it is that pointed out I treated the wagon on me like a joke... well it sort of was last time in the marlfox game.

Sleepah, I don't like you saying you're obviously town. I don't know your meta yet. And I'm going to have to guess it.

Tom could be lying I guess. Or I wouldn't be surprised if he were. Hopefully night actions can resolve his slot.



Character Notes:
Mish and Sleepah are acting like arbiters of the thread.
Yates is the soldier.
Cory is the town fool.
Jmm is the drunk.
Dingus is the wise bard.
Err is a newcomer.

Yes, this accomplishes nothing, but I have no strong reads yet and my vote on jmm is more or less casual. I wouldn't mind lynching him if I don't find anyone better by the end of the day, but hopefully there are better lynches than someone who's presence in the thread can be reduced to 'wanting to be lynched'.

 

As he says - this accomplishes nothing and he hasn´t got any strong reads yet. Even though jmm is "anti-town" he later says that his vote are casual. And he is clearly getting ready to remove his vote later. 

[Niniel]

I will post far from everything so this is what I´ve chosen to get you to see my point. More quotes in next post.

 

well i'm not too worried with your slot so far. intuitive types are easier to read.

 

but thane on the other hand... i'll have to work hard not to misread him.

 

His famous defence from D1.

 

morning... just caught up to realize i have three votes on me. thanks for that, but i know this is just to rustle me so i won't fall for it this time. take your brushes elsewhere >.>

 

 

 

hey salami. i'm counting on your wacky intuition to solve the game lol.

 

gonna need an explanation on the lol at the end. . .

 

Usually dingus starts like this.  First post is all posturing, then he warms up and town tells like mad.

 

. . . since the follow-up posts are immediately a different tone

 

One was a joke. The other was me being serious.

 

But good catch.

 

"Good catch". = You are wrong but I think you are town. Why does he assume he is town?

 

 

 

 

Greeting, everyone!  Been out of mafia a while but here goes...

I have to admit this should be amusing to watch you try to read someone you've never seen before… commence!

 

 

yeahh.... it has started.... will take time getting used to tracking all new names for me..... 

 

I am going to say this now so I don't make dumb mistakes later:

 

I think I have a bad tendency to box out players I don't know very well. I haven't played with either of you before, so here's my tl;dr - my name is Cory, I tend to post a lot and get really involved in games. I'm very competitive. So here's a little quick question/answer for both of you - if it seems not game-related or inane please answer it anyway to humor me:

 

1 - Do you prefer being town or Mafia? What aspect of the game do you enjoy?

2 - What do you think makes you valuable as a townie?

3 - What do you think makes you valuable as Mafia?

 

Err, off the top of your head do you have any links from DM you think would be good examples of how you play as a villager and as Mafia? I will probably browse old games when I get the chance for myself but want to give you the opportunity to see what games you are proudest of.

 

 

:) i feel like being interviewed again before a new job :P

 

well i have played 3 games online so far.... however i have played a lot of mafia games with large group of people in the university. 

 

here are the games in the order i have played them

[redacted]

 

1. i have enjoyed playing as both townie and mafia. but i think it was more fun when playing mafia.

2. & 3. dont know about valuable but if i remember correctly (since the last game i played was in more then half a year ago), in the first few days i got suspected/lynched/killed because in the beginning of the game i tried to guess the dynamics of the game (may be over thinking them) e.g. guessing the number and role of mafias/godfather and special role players in the game. people who have played with me might be able to tell better. 

 

It sounds conversational and I like his avatar, thought it goes without saying it's a tone read premised on one post. The blue parts resonated with me. Nothing struck me as dishonest.

 

I get the feeling I'll confuse their gender at some point. Her/him. Talks like a she. Male avatar. Weird.

 

 

How could Err ever have posted answers to these that would sound dishonest? Why would anyone lie in an answer like this? Why does Sili take this as a town tell? As he says, from just one post. I´m not sure if it´s a fluff post (trying to look active) or pre defending Err or whatever. 

 

 

Can you tell me what all of your names are on other sites - I get a bit confused.

 

 

I don´t the emo posts. I don´t know what to do with them. Is it:

 

1. Genuine feelings? If so, I don´t get what started it.

2. Some kind of game play/checking people´s reactions/setting traps etc? If so, I don´t find it to be an enjoyable gamestyle.

3. Trolling? If so, just stop.

 

I could absolutely follow Dice and Csarmi on Tommy. I´m still on Sili because he seams to play a bit cautious. I think that a Tommy lynch would give me some info about other players. 

 

I´m not sure about Manbat. Some of his posts look townie but I didn´t like that he stopped talking to me but turned to Cory to ask about me instead and then just agreed with him. I´m not sure about his oppinions about Tommy either. He seems to be on the fence about him. But as you can see, I´m on the fence about Manbat. 

You have a nice level of paranoia. I can understand it but you have some wacky reads.

 

fwiw we don't lynch for information. that is never happening here.

 

 

He has still not starting to suspect me here. I´m having a "nice level of paranoia" that he "can understand". = It looks like he knows I´m town and trying to win me over by being nice.

 

I skimmed over a lot at first, but I'll do what I can. Jmm seems like he's intent on being anti-town this game; he's probably proud of that, or at least defiant.But it is unhelpful, and I get the impression he would do the same thing regardless of role.

 

Just one of those people.

 

These are the quotes I picked up that seemed relevant.

 

 

 

 

Keep coming with posts like that and you'll tip over in the minus pile, just FIY. I know it's your first time and I don't know how much your mentor is around, but you should be less concerned with how others perceive you and more concerned with how you percieve others. Don't be afraid to contribute, even though you're unfamiliar with the players and forum mafia. Dive right and we'll all have a much nicer time :)

You've got me in that I've never played forum mafia, but I can't agree with you about other's perception. It's pretty much everything.  I may not have shared my perceptions on others yet, but trust me, I've got them.  With no impending lynch or deadline, I see no reason to divulge what I'm thinking yet.  

 

Copied from another thread: "I went to a Christmas smorgasbord today. It was amazing, I tried a lot of things that I have never tasted before. I ate several different pickled herring, different kind of salmons, rabbit, duck, goose, wild boar, fallow deer, red deer, moose and even bear. Afterwards there was cheese and a lot of Christmas candy. I´m so stuffed that I can hardly move. "

 

 

Hard claim Survivor

Sleeper Service is one of two wolves

You guys find the other one

It's probably not Sili since Hoya went after him early and nobody seems rustled with his wagon, including him

 

You are claiming third party? 

 

[/unvote]

 

[v] Tommy [/v]

 

I have played in too many games were town lost because of third party players or claimed third party players. 

 

Just got to this Tina, sorry didn't see the first time:

 

Tell me about Manbat. (=Moster?)

 

 

Up to eight I have a bunch of pluses for monstr 

 

while his WIMMY opening is something he CAN do as mafia he's more likely to do it as a villager. i think he accumulated a good deal of wolf fatigue in the Champs game and I know he really wanted to be a villager in this game and in all honesty a lot of DMers considering "the big villagery open" to actually be relatively conspicuous and one asset that's big in monstr's scum game is that he's inconspicuous if that makes sense. he knows what will or will not get him intro trouble.

 

he continues to go strong, has at least one read i think he's more likely to make as a villager (sili town, which i think could be incorrect but i think monstr interpreting sili's lack of an early filter as villagery is pretty monstrish of him) and i appreciate the way he talks to me and to tom. it would be hard for him to take the line he took with tom irt to me getting aggressive around page ~7 - “it may be tiresome to you tom” - as a wolf. tom points out correctly that monstr doesn't usually get involved in spats between people he likes as a wolf, he usually just reads them villager and giggles

 

there are some things he does early that i log in the back of my mind as mildly mafian and he hasn't touched any of them. his posting just seems pure, filterless and we think similarly. i usually say "i can read monstr perfect by day 2 EOD" but i'm actually pretty close to just bluereading him outright today. i'm extremely confident he's a villager.

 

Okay. Thanks. Good to know.

 

 

So far I feel that Mish/Cory, Dice/Csarmi and Err is town. 

 

 

 

jmm does have TWTBAWW equity tho

 

will think about that one extra hard from my chamber of solitude

TWTBAWW?

 

 

Too Wolfy To Be A WereWolf

 

It's the idea that scum wouldn't act so overtly wolfy in their postings because it'd be borderline suicidal and it's more likely just a player quirk

 

I don't really find it THAT reliable, but there are some players this was a good thing to think about with (Jack_D was a great example)

 

Dunno how jmm plays so comfortable keeping him in an orange, not sure if he's posted much or at all since page 15

 

You're right, it's a player quirk - I'm always this way in mafia games.  

I know it keeps me suspicious but I'm consistent with it.  I wasn't lying when I said I get false lynched a lot.

But to get the ball rolling, let's throw the proverbial wolves a bone:

Vote: Sili

 

 

tl;dr, he likes low hanging fruit, isn't putting much effort in, and i don't know what the bolded means.

 

 

 

 

Slight wolf lean from me, and it's a good place to start.

 

Here he thinks that jmm would be unhelpful both as town and mafia. As far as I understand, he has never played with jmm before. But in the end he get´s slight wolf leans. Kind of like a sitting on the fence post, right?

 

I must have forgotten to post his vote in #641 where he votes jmm. If we take this as his first serious vote then it´s not until page 33. (I´m not sure about this, but I think he voted Hally before this.)

 

Checking in to say I'm here... slanking unintentionally. Seems everytime I go to say something I'm distracted.

Yates, you're being aggressively town, so you get a carrot. Congratulations.

Dice, you shush. If you want my opinion of you to change you'll have to prove my opinion wrong. Simple as that.

Jmm, you're anti-town. Wanna make that clear.

Whoever it is that pointed out I treated the wagon on me like a joke... well it sort of was last time in the marlfox game.

Sleepah, I don't like you saying you're obviously town. I don't know your meta yet. And I'm going to have to guess it.

Tom could be lying I guess. Or I wouldn't be surprised if he were. Hopefully night actions can resolve his slot.



Character Notes:
Mish and Sleepah are acting like arbiters of the thread.
Yates is the soldier.
Cory is the town fool.
Jmm is the drunk.
Dingus is the wise bard.
Err is a newcomer.

Yes, this accomplishes nothing, but I have no strong reads yet and my vote on jmm is more or less casual. I wouldn't mind lynching him if I don't find anyone better by the end of the day, but hopefully there are better lynches than someone who's presence in the thread can be reduced to 'wanting to be lynched'.

 

As he says - this accomplishes nothing and he hasn´t got any strong reads yet. Even though jmm is "anti-town" he later says that his vote are casual. And he is clearly getting ready to remove his vote later. 

[Niniel]

Grrr.... trying a third time.

 

I will post far from everything so this is what I´ve chosen to get you to see my point. More quotes in next post.

 

well i'm not too worried with your slot so far. intuitive types are easier to read.

 

but thane on the other hand... i'll have to work hard not to misread him.

 

His famous defence from D1.

 

morning... just caught up to realize i have three votes on me. thanks for that, but i know this is just to rustle me so i won't fall for it this time. take your brushes elsewhere >.>

 

 

 

hey salami. i'm counting on your wacky intuition to solve the game lol.

 

gonna need an explanation on the lol at the end. . .

 

Usually dingus starts like this.  First post is all posturing, then he warms up and town tells like mad.

 

. . . since the follow-up posts are immediately a different tone

 

One was a joke. The other was me being serious.

 

But good catch.

 

"Good catch". = You are wrong but I think you are town. Why does he assume he is town?

 

 

 

 

Greeting, everyone!  Been out of mafia a while but here goes...

I have to admit this should be amusing to watch you try to read someone you've never seen before… commence!

 

 

yeahh.... it has started.... will take time getting used to tracking all new names for me..... 

 

I am going to say this now so I don't make dumb mistakes later:

 

I think I have a bad tendency to box out players I don't know very well. I haven't played with either of you before, so here's my tl;dr - my name is Cory, I tend to post a lot and get really involved in games. I'm very competitive. So here's a little quick question/answer for both of you - if it seems not game-related or inane please answer it anyway to humor me:

 

1 - Do you prefer being town or Mafia? What aspect of the game do you enjoy?

2 - What do you think makes you valuable as a townie?

3 - What do you think makes you valuable as Mafia?

 

Err, off the top of your head do you have any links from DM you think would be good examples of how you play as a villager and as Mafia? I will probably browse old games when I get the chance for myself but want to give you the opportunity to see what games you are proudest of.

 

 

:) i feel like being interviewed again before a new job :P

 

well i have played 3 games online so far.... however i have played a lot of mafia games with large group of people in the university. 

 

here are the games in the order i have played them

[redacted]

 

1. i have enjoyed playing as both townie and mafia. but i think it was more fun when playing mafia.

2. & 3. dont know about valuable but if i remember correctly (since the last game i played was in more then half a year ago), in the first few days i got suspected/lynched/killed because in the beginning of the game i tried to guess the dynamics of the game (may be over thinking them) e.g. guessing the number and role of mafias/godfather and special role players in the game. people who have played with me might be able to tell better. 

 

It sounds conversational and I like his avatar, thought it goes without saying it's a tone read premised on one post. The blue parts resonated with me. Nothing struck me as dishonest.

 

I get the feeling I'll confuse their gender at some point. Her/him. Talks like a she. Male avatar. Weird.

 

 

How could Err ever have posted answers to these that would sound dishonest? Why would anyone lie in an answer like this? Why does Sili take this as a town tell? As he says, from just one post. I´m not sure if it´s a fluff post (trying to look active) or pre defending Err or whatever. 

 

 

Can you tell me what all of your names are on other sites - I get a bit confused.

 

 

I don´t the emo posts. I don´t know what to do with them. Is it:

 

1. Genuine feelings? If so, I don´t get what started it.

2. Some kind of game play/checking people´s reactions/setting traps etc? If so, I don´t find it to be an enjoyable gamestyle.

3. Trolling? If so, just stop.

 

I could absolutely follow Dice and Csarmi on Tommy. I´m still on Sili because he seams to play a bit cautious. I think that a Tommy lynch would give me some info about other players. 

 

I´m not sure about Manbat. Some of his posts look townie but I didn´t like that he stopped talking to me but turned to Cory to ask about me instead and then just agreed with him. I´m not sure about his oppinions about Tommy either. He seems to be on the fence about him. But as you can see, I´m on the fence about Manbat. 

You have a nice level of paranoia. I can understand it but you have some wacky reads.

 

fwiw we don't lynch for information. that is never happening here.

 

 

He has still not starting to suspect me here. I´m having a "nice level of paranoia" that he "can understand". = It looks like he knows I´m town and trying to win me over by being nice.

 

I skimmed over a lot at first, but I'll do what I can. Jmm seems like he's intent on being anti-town this game; he's probably proud of that, or at least defiant.But it is unhelpful, and I get the impression he would do the same thing regardless of role.

 

Just one of those people.

 

These are the quotes I picked up that seemed relevant.

 

 

 

 

Keep coming with posts like that and you'll tip over in the minus pile, just FIY. I know it's your first time and I don't know how much your mentor is around, but you should be less concerned with how others perceive you and more concerned with how you percieve others. Don't be afraid to contribute, even though you're unfamiliar with the players and forum mafia. Dive right and we'll all have a much nicer time :)

You've got me in that I've never played forum mafia, but I can't agree with you about other's perception. It's pretty much everything.  I may not have shared my perceptions on others yet, but trust me, I've got them.  With no impending lynch or deadline, I see no reason to divulge what I'm thinking yet.  

 

Copied from another thread: "I went to a Christmas smorgasbord today. It was amazing, I tried a lot of things that I have never tasted before. I ate several different pickled herring, different kind of salmons, rabbit, duck, goose, wild boar, fallow deer, red deer, moose and even bear. Afterwards there was cheese and a lot of Christmas candy. I´m so stuffed that I can hardly move. "

 

 

Hard claim Survivor

Sleeper Service is one of two wolves

You guys find the other one

It's probably not Sili since Hoya went after him early and nobody seems rustled with his wagon, including him

 

You are claiming third party? 

 

[/unvote]

 

[v] Tommy [/v]

 

I have played in too many games were town lost because of third party players or claimed third party players. 

 

Just got to this Tina, sorry didn't see the first time:

 

Tell me about Manbat. (=Moster?)

 

 

Up to eight I have a bunch of pluses for monstr 

 

while his WIMMY opening is something he CAN do as mafia he's more likely to do it as a villager. i think he accumulated a good deal of wolf fatigue in the Champs game and I know he really wanted to be a villager in this game and in all honesty a lot of DMers considering "the big villagery open" to actually be relatively conspicuous and one asset that's big in monstr's scum game is that he's inconspicuous if that makes sense. he knows what will or will not get him intro trouble.

 

he continues to go strong, has at least one read i think he's more likely to make as a villager (sili town, which i think could be incorrect but i think monstr interpreting sili's lack of an early filter as villagery is pretty monstrish of him) and i appreciate the way he talks to me and to tom. it would be hard for him to take the line he took with tom irt to me getting aggressive around page ~7 - “it may be tiresome to you tom” - as a wolf. tom points out correctly that monstr doesn't usually get involved in spats between people he likes as a wolf, he usually just reads them villager and giggles

 

there are some things he does early that i log in the back of my mind as mildly mafian and he hasn't touched any of them. his posting just seems pure, filterless and we think similarly. i usually say "i can read monstr perfect by day 2 EOD" but i'm actually pretty close to just bluereading him outright today. i'm extremely confident he's a villager.

 

Okay. Thanks. Good to know.

 

 

So far I feel that Mish/Cory, Dice/Csarmi and Err is town. 

 

 

 

jmm does have TWTBAWW equity tho

 

will think about that one extra hard from my chamber of solitude

TWTBAWW?

 

 

Too Wolfy To Be A WereWolf

 

It's the idea that scum wouldn't act so overtly wolfy in their postings because it'd be borderline suicidal and it's more likely just a player quirk

 

I don't really find it THAT reliable, but there are some players this was a good thing to think about with (Jack_D was a great example)

 

Dunno how jmm plays so comfortable keeping him in an orange, not sure if he's posted much or at all since page 15

 

You're right, it's a player quirk - I'm always this way in mafia games.  

I know it keeps me suspicious but I'm consistent with it.  I wasn't lying when I said I get false lynched a lot.

But to get the ball rolling, let's throw the proverbial wolves a bone:

Vote: Sili

 

 

tl;dr, he likes low hanging fruit, isn't putting much effort in, and i don't know what the bolded means.

 

 

 

 

Slight wolf lean from me, and it's a good place to start.

 

Here he thinks that jmm would be unhelpful both as town and mafia. As far as I understand, he has never played with jmm before. But in the end he get´s slight wolf leans. Kind of like a sitting on the fence post, right?

 

I must have forgotten to post his vote in #641 where he votes jmm. If we take this as his first serious vote then it´s not until page 33. (I´m not sure about this, but I think he voted Hally before this.)

 

Checking in to say I'm here... slanking unintentionally. Seems everytime I go to say something I'm distracted.

Yates, you're being aggressively town, so you get a carrot. Congratulations.

Dice, you shush. If you want my opinion of you to change you'll have to prove my opinion wrong. Simple as that.

Jmm, you're anti-town. Wanna make that clear.

Whoever it is that pointed out I treated the wagon on me like a joke... well it sort of was last time in the marlfox game.

Sleepah, I don't like you saying you're obviously town. I don't know your meta yet. And I'm going to have to guess it.

Tom could be lying I guess. Or I wouldn't be surprised if he were. Hopefully night actions can resolve his slot.



Character Notes:
Mish and Sleepah are acting like arbiters of the thread.
Yates is the soldier.
Cory is the town fool.
Jmm is the drunk.
Dingus is the wise bard.
Err is a newcomer.

Yes, this accomplishes nothing, but I have no strong reads yet and my vote on jmm is more or less casual. I wouldn't mind lynching him if I don't find anyone better by the end of the day, but hopefully there are better lynches than someone who's presence in the thread can be reduced to 'wanting to be lynched'.

 

As he says - this accomplishes nothing and he hasn´t got any strong reads yet. Even though jmm is "anti-town" he later says that his vote are casual. And he is clearly getting ready to remove his vote later. 

[Niniel]

Stupid Cloudflare. Will go and find the rest of the quotes.

[Niniel]

And I'm mostly caught up!

 

My stomach tells me:

 

These are villagers.

Monstramus

Cory

Mish

Pral

 

These might be scum.

Csarmi/Dice

Tina

Sleepah

Tom

Jmm

 

 

These are scum.

-none-

 

His stomach tells him that 1/3 of the game is scum. 

 

[v]Sleepah[/v]

 

More action from you please, no offense I hope.

 

A vote just to get Sleeper to post more. It doesn´t look like he is voting him for another reason.

 

 [unvote]

[v]cory[/v]

 

bastard thinks he's all that just because i've declared him town. well he can eat a lynch for that sort of attitude.

 

Just a joke vote. 

 

The last couple posts from lenlo were wolfish though. So maybe I'll vote him instead - plus there's a deliberation to his energy.

 

[unvote]

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

:)

 

Two posts later he votes Lenlo with a smiley.

 

 

I have a strong town read on lenlo's tone, that's the whole reason. You can discard it if you want.

IM RUSTLING AND DONT YOU MAKE ME STOP.

 

I WILL RUSTLE.

 

Lenlo. I'm going to tunnel you soon, so damn you. Town tell now.

 

 

And he leaves the door open to unvote Lenlos as fast as he starts "town telling". Is that what you do with someone you think is mafia?

 

[unvote]

[v]Err[/v]

 

Sure, whatever. Where is err anyway?

 

Follows others with another vote. Because he want him to post more. Not because he is mafia.

 

Kay I'm back and caught up. Jmm, what you said to prove you're not a wolf honestly makes very little sense.

 

I need you to elaborate concisely on why you think I'm a wolf, and not just put it down to your gut. when there's time.

 

[unvote]

 

 

 

[v]jmm[/v]

 

The posts (sorry, forgot one) and the vote on jmm seems legit. But the thing is he is only following Cory and Tommy, who just voted him before this.

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

A new serious vote?

 

Be open, be open-minded, and stop turtling please.

 

And selami, Dice likes to give me nothing to work with so I'm calling him anti-town out of spite. It doesn't mean I advocate your lynch though.

 

No, of course not. And he later unvotes him.

[Niniel]

Okay, will quote a lot of Sili´s posts. I hope DM works. My point with it is that he rarely takes a stand, town read people before it´s even possible (like he know they are town) and often backtracks. 

 

Done. See if you can find any reasons for his votes that looks genuine and that he is not willing to just give up as soon as the wind blows in another direction.

 

 

I wanted to quote Lenlo to show why I suspect him but I ran out of time. I might not be on much today since I´m going to my bf. He lives out in the countryside and internet works whenever it feels like it.