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  On 11/13/2014 at 3:36 PM, Yates. said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:29 PM, Despothera said:

When Darthe is saying this is a good reads list, you KNOW it's all kinds of jacked up. Holy God.

Wombat's post? Clearly sarcasm. In response to Darthe. I got that immediately.

 

DPR's post about "really really Town?" Not so much. I would have given him a little more benefit of the doubt if Kivam hadn't handed him that shovel to help dig himself out.

 

 

Maybe my sarcasm-o-meter is broken :tongue:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:37 PM, WWWwombat said:

1.  Put roster into random.org

2.  Click "Again!" until Wombat is in red range

3.  ????

4.  Profit!

 

:dry:

 

Thanks for being so much help to town Wombat.

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:39 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Wombat did post a good list, but i'd make some changes to it, like this: 

 

*headdesk*

 

Considering Wombat himself is admitting he wasn't making a genuine reads list, bleurgh.

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  On 11/13/2014 at 3:39 PM, WWWwombat said:

Darthe, is there a psychological phenomonon that involves perseveration, splitting, and loss of humor?

Brain damage to the front lobe?  Are you thinking about how you were just responded to by some parties?

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  On 11/13/2014 at 3:44 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:39 PM, WWWwombat said:

Darthe, is there a psychological phenomonon that involves perseveration, splitting, and loss of humor?

Brain damage to the front lobe?  Are you thinking about how you were just responded to by some parties?

 

 

Yes.  Yes I am.

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  On 11/13/2014 at 7:41 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 11/12/2014 at 12:53 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 11/11/2014 at 3:50 PM, Kivam said:

...

 

Andrej tries to shift the discussion of Supgate back to Leelou (-1,000,000!  Super ping-y to me).

 

...

 

Andrej votes Sili out of nowhere.  ANDREJ - What was up with that? Ah. Next post (that whole thoughts as we go thing kills me again) - says the random (joke?) vote on Thane rubs him the wrong way.  Do not like this post at all. 

 

First bit - I think you're misunderstanding the intent of my question there. It was framed in a certain way, yeah, but the purpose was to make those who were questioning/discussing with (Darthe/Barm) Leelou of her neutral post statement that it was kind of a silly thing to focus on. I reiterate this several times in later posts that I thought her reaction was more of a villager tell than anything else which was kind of the point to my question.

 

Here's the progression:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Also - as far as you not liking my post there isn't much else I can say to you about that besides 'too bad', I guess. Do you think the logic behind my vote was bad? Did you misunderstand or misinterpret somehow? At the moment I don't really like the commentary you're making towards me because I don't think it's very factual or accurate to how events actually unfolded. 

 

QFE.

 

Thanks for bumping.  It's not about intent as articulated in the post.  It's about where you shined the spotlight; the discussion had moved on, and you brought it back.  Much like with Des and Seer cover, the ostensible explicit statements in posts are often much less important than the information/focus other players are most likely to take from them.  Maybe you guys haven't reached that stage in your mafia development and you're still all context and no subtext, but I tend to assume people are good players until proven otherwise, and that means that when I see focus being shifted back to an area without much in the way of meat on the bones after what was there had already been picked over, I pay attention.

 

Re Barm, your comment stunk then and it stinks now. "I don't think a wolf would discredit easy town points"?  You're better than that, aren't you?  What you've just said is "discrediting easy town points is a townie play, because a wolf wouldn't do that".  So what's an intelligent scum to do?  Answer? Behave like a townie, and discredit easy town points.  Unless you're playing with the most fumble-footed scum around, "town tells" like that are pure null and a completely f'ing useless way to get a sense of alignment. 

 

Again, maybe I'm giving you too much credit and this is all news to you.  Anyone who's played with Andrej care to comment?

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  On 11/13/2014 at 3:40 PM, Cass said:

*Mindsplodes* 

[v] ##Sili [/v]

 

Did you not see DPR condescendingly calling you a puppet multiple times, and implying that you aren't even writing your own posts???

Posted

Looking like Pral vs. Sili atm?  Unfortunately, Pral is afk and Sili is crazy, so DADV is probably ruled out and bussing might be hard to detect.

Posted

Yo Kivs:

 

  On 11/12/2014 at 8:41 PM, WWWwombat said:

 

  On 11/12/2014 at 5:56 PM, TheRagnarok said:

Why is Cass lower? Dpr?

Why is Tress higher? Aj?

 

Ok, I'd like some explanation here. How am I, of all people, at the top of the green list? For those of you who don't know me, I take great pride in not being able to be read by anyone. And I haven't exactly posted a lot.

 

 

Rags, would you believe me if I said I'm getting good juju from you?  And I can usually read you by midgame btw.

Tress looks like town Tress so far but she needs to post more if she doesn't want to start slipping down the list.  Wanna see some more of that incisive Tress-logic.

AJ's early stuff felt like stuff town AJ would say.  He makes a lot of points that make sense but I don't agree with either because I see things a different way or because I think they are too facile.

Cass is null because she had like 1 substantive post at that point.  It was a decent post but overly wordy and self-conscious.  Need to see more of her to get any sort of read.

 

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  On 11/13/2014 at 3:33 PM, WWWwombat said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:32 PM, Despothera said:

I'll be honest- crap tons of people continuously ignoring the LEGIT big time scumtells DPR keeps dropping all over the place, and ignoring me pointing them out, is making me just not want to put that much effort into this game anymore.

 

Sili not a great lynch anymore imo. I think he's likely a townie here in fact.

 

Pray not a great lynch anymore imo. He claimed VT already, in his position making his lynch MUCH more likely on D1 (not a good strat for scum).

 

Why not, you know, go after someone who actually looks scummy here?

 

[v]##DPR for Scum President 2016[/v]

 

 

AHA!  Knew there was a reason I had you in my LOCK WILVES!

Yea but could you blue me up?

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  On 11/13/2014 at 3:43 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:39 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Wombat did post a good list, but i'd make some changes to it, like this: 

 

*headdesk*

 

Considering Wombat himself is admitting he wasn't making a genuine reads list, bleurgh.

 

well, i changed it to what i think it should look like, so i definately wasn't agreeing with him :wink:

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W/e. No one wants to vote obvscum DPR, and Kivam is next best choice now. Has connections to scum!DPR, and has had a LOT of "padding" type posts lately where he rants a bunch about meta stuff, not stuff relevant to THIS GAME. Also think his "if I flip scum don't look into what I said" was a guilty conscience slip.

 

##[unvote]

 

[v]##Kivam[/v]

Posted
  On 11/13/2014 at 3:39 PM, WWWwombat said:

Darthe, is there a psychological phenomonon that involves perseveration, splitting, and loss of humor?

 

Repped (mentally)

Posted

I would probably rather lynch Sili than Pral.  But I also feel like a CFD shouldn't be out of the question.  Thane calling my list "good" puts him back on the table, but there are plenty of others I have my eye on.

Posted
  On 11/13/2014 at 2:16 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

It might do some good to mention the way cass is reading people reminds me of what I did in my first game. They're all very associative, and his inquiries are centered around utility scum tells.

 Is this a bad thing? How else do you get a feel for someone being scum, if you've never had the experience of playing in a game?

Posted

OK i am hydra with Despo, we got a nice town role...

 

And i still can't follow him. I feel myself wanting to argue with his points.

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