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[WWWwombat]

 

 

Cass - SoC posts just make me think there is EXTREMELY little chance she is ever scum here. Also her paranoia seems genuine.

Nyn - often find myself disagreeing with her suspects, but I think her pushes are still genuine

Pray - liked his recent reads list, and also think Yates wasn't bussing in his push on Pray

Rags - whereas some started wasting time with NA speculation, he went right back into Yates spew and I liked his analysis and WIM overall.

AJ - slightly associative but also feel his push on Kivam looks genuine no matter what Kivam's alignment ends up being

 

Krak - town read from yesterday, and in general I find his involvement to be townleaning. Kinda sporadic activity levels tho.

Darthe - like his posts lately. He isn't letting himself get sucked into antitown arguments Kiv and DPR keep pushing. Seems to show genuine interest in lynching actual scum.

VerBarm - might be high for them, but their recent responses don't look bad imo. Think if they were scum Verb would be scrambling in a more desperate manner to clear himself

 

Tress - muddled here since I thought Yates spew pointed to him distancing from Tress, and also thought she might have been buddying me. But eh, Pray's spew analysis makes sense as well

Hallia - wish she was participating more

Dice - what has he been doing this game? Why can't I recall like, anything from him?

 

Wombat - still think his EOD push yesterday was scummy, and also think my point about his tone changing ever since being townread early on is still valid. Have kept something in my pocket irt him as well

Thane - he's like the opposite of Darthe lately in the sense that he does NOT seem that interested in lynching scum today. His defense of Wombat looks disingenuous (town Thane isn't normally that certain of town reads) as does his push on Pray

DPR - hypocrite since he earlier tried to say others were painting this situation as "old gen vs new gen" yet that's exactly what he's been wasting his time talking about as much as possible most the game- that his "old gen" type approach used logic better and thus is more useful (even tho he's mostly wasted time on NA speculation which isn't really as productive at ALL in helping to catch scum)

Kivam - his push on AJ seems entirely disingenuous to me, looks like scum!Kivam trying to sell a bale of bad fish. Trying to cling to one minor point and pretend like it's a much bigger deal than it is. Also has wasted more of town's time talking about dubious and unproductive matters than anyone else in the game, essentially making him the most antitown player in the game

 

Obvious disclaimer here - SK could technically be hiding amongst my clears possibly, but even then it would still just be one misclear. Some of these are kinda on a whim as well, but I feel confident in most of em

 

50% of your scum reads blow chunks.

 

 

Which 2?

 

And why are you so generally unhelpful this game? Way I figure it it HAS to be one of two possibilities:

 

1. You're scum

2. You're trying to show off for Kivam and DPR (hence the Cromwell schtick)

 

Which is it Wombat?

 

 

I have town reads on myself and DPR.

 

But I'm also scum.

[WWWwombat]

Thane is townreading me for no apparent reason, which makes him scum too.

[WWWwombat]

Kivam is Kivam.

[hazelkrs1]

 

So... we should just lynch you Wombat? Cause claiming scum is... helpful to town somehow?

[WWWwombat]

What does your tone read say?  Do the opposite imo.

[hazelkrs1]

Tone read says you don't give a crap about even TRYING to appear helpful to town, and that that DOES NOT come from town!Wombat, ever. Makes me think DPR could be right and that you're SK after all (which wouldn't make him town btw)

 

[WWWwombat]

So basically, you should never lynch me this game.  Glad I could work you through this one.

[hazelkrs1]

[v]##Wombat[/v]

 

Getting rid of dead weight = +++++++++EV for town

 

Best part is Wombat likely flips scum here as well

[Nynaeve]

Scum are cleaner than town when you look back.  Always.  You should remember that.

 

lol Since when?

[WWWwombat]

[v]##Wombat[/v]

 

Getting rid of dead weight = +++++++++EV for town

 

Best part is Wombat likely flips scum here as well

 

Lol.  Guess you were really committed to that Kivam vote.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Scum are cleaner than town when you look back.  Always.  You should remember that.

 

lol Since when?

 

 

Since I started proving this time and time again like every game I tried iso'ing someone. Sucks, but he's completely right. If you get it in your head that someone's scum, you can pore through their iso and find ALL KINDS of stuff to make you think even further that that person is scum

 

I think since townies don't have as much knowledge as scum, they're more likely to display what seem like inconsistencies when you go through their iso. It's usually just them letting their reads develop organically however, which is usually a towntell

[hazelkrs1]

 

[v]##Wombat[/v]

 

Getting rid of dead weight = +++++++++EV for town

 

Best part is Wombat likely flips scum here as well

 

Lol.  Guess you were really committed to that Kivam vote.

 

 

WTL anyone that is committed to not helping town win this game

 

Kivam illustrated this by continuously derailing the scumhunt to talk about NA and SK speculation, you illustrated this, by posting the crizzap you've posted recently

 

DEAD WEIGHT GOTS TA GO

[Verbal32]

So Verbal's official response is that I'm reaching. Noted lol

 

What's up with all the "lol"s you've been tossing out?  None of what I'm saying is funny.  You are reaching - to shrug it off with a "lol" is scummy.

 

 

 

 

Yo Verb, who you got for scum?

 

Not sure yet - missed too much before my trip.  Give me a little time to get back into the swing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cass - SoC posts just make me think there is EXTREMELY little chance she is ever scum here. Also her paranoia seems genuine.

Nyn - often find myself disagreeing with her suspects, but I think her pushes are still genuine

Pray - liked his recent reads list, and also think Yates wasn't bussing in his push on Pray

Rags - whereas some started wasting time with NA speculation, he went right back into Yates spew and I liked his analysis and WIM overall.

AJ - slightly associative but also feel his push on Kivam looks genuine no matter what Kivam's alignment ends up being

 

Krak - town read from yesterday, and in general I find his involvement to be townleaning. Kinda sporadic activity levels tho.

Darthe - like his posts lately. He isn't letting himself get sucked into antitown arguments Kiv and DPR keep pushing. Seems to show genuine interest in lynching actual scum.

VerBarm - might be high for them, but their recent responses don't look bad imo. Think if they were scum Verb would be scrambling in a more desperate manner to clear himself

 

Tress - muddled here since I thought Yates spew pointed to him distancing from Tress, and also thought she might have been buddying me. But eh, Pray's spew analysis makes sense as well

Hallia - wish she was participating more

Dice - what has he been doing this game? Why can't I recall like, anything from him?

 

Wombat - still think his EOD push yesterday was scummy, and also think my point about his tone changing ever since being townread early on is still valid. Have kept something in my pocket irt him as well

Thane - he's like the opposite of Darthe lately in the sense that he does NOT seem that interested in lynching scum today. His defense of Wombat looks disingenuous (town Thane isn't normally that certain of town reads) as does his push on Pray

DPR - hypocrite since he earlier tried to say others were painting this situation as "old gen vs new gen" yet that's exactly what he's been wasting his time talking about as much as possible most the game- that his "old gen" type approach used logic better and thus is more useful (even tho he's mostly wasted time on NA speculation which isn't really as productive at ALL in helping to catch scum)

Kivam - his push on AJ seems entirely disingenuous to me, looks like scum!Kivam trying to sell a bale of bad fish. Trying to cling to one minor point and pretend like it's a much bigger deal than it is. Also has wasted more of town's time talking about dubious and unproductive matters than anyone else in the game, essentially making him the most antitown player in the game

 

Obvious disclaimer here - SK could technically be hiding amongst my clears possibly, but even then it would still just be one misclear. Some of these are kinda on a whim as well, but I feel confident in most of em

 

50% of your scum reads blow chunks.

 

 

Which 2?

 

And why are you so generally unhelpful this game? Way I figure it it HAS to be one of two possibilities:

 

1. You're scum

2. You're trying to show off for Kivam and DPR (hence the Cromwell schtick)

 

Which is it Wombat?

 

 

Please don't tell me he did a dude impersonation for their benefit.

 

(link me - I wanna see it!!!)

 

 

 

 

 

Scum are cleaner than town when you look back.  Always.  You should remember that.

 

lol Since when?

 

 

Since townies aren't as likely to cover their tracks and ensure they don't mess up prior statements or whatever.  Reads change - random "gambits" come and go - and sometimes contradict with each other.

 

I kinda thought you knew this, so I'm struggling with whether you're being purposely obtuse here.

[TheRagnarok]

Ok, I got like 15 pages to catch up on.  How long til EOD?

[Verbal32]

 

 

Scum are cleaner than town when you look back.  Always.  You should remember that.

 

lol Since when?

 

 

Since I started proving this time and time again like every game I tried iso'ing someone. Sucks, but he's completely right. If you get it in your head that someone's scum, you can pore through their iso and find ALL KINDS of stuff to make you think even further that that person is scum

 

I think since townies don't have as much knowledge as scum, they're more likely to display what seem like inconsistencies when you go through their iso. It's usually just them letting their reads develop organically however, which is usually a towntell

 

 

^ this, too

[Verbal32]

Ok, I got like 15 pages to catch up on.  How long til EOD?

 

cry me a river

 

I have ~80

[TheRagnarok]

 

Ok, I got like 15 pages to catch up on.  How long til EOD?

 

cry me a river

 

I have ~80

 

Sucks for you.

 

How long do we have?

[Verbal32]

couple hours, I think

[Nynaeve]

 

 

Scum are cleaner than town when you look back.  Always.  You should remember that.

 

lol Since when?

 

 

Since I started proving this time and time again like every game I tried iso'ing someone. Sucks, but he's completely right. If you get it in your head that someone's scum, you can pore through their iso and find ALL KINDS of stuff to make you think even further that that person is scum

 

I think since townies don't have as much knowledge as scum, they're more likely to display what seem like inconsistencies when you go through their iso. It's usually just them letting their reads develop organically however, which is usually a towntell

 

 

That's not even what he was saying. He's claiming scum's posts look cleaner than a townie's. 

[TheRagnarok]

couple hours, I think

So I could catch up....ooorrrrr #YOLO my vote?

[Nynaeve]

I find it weird that you think I got in my head that they're scum and then everything seems scummy to me. I had an iffy feeling about them. READ their posts and decided that they were scummy. They can dress it how they like...... Barm can go on with his mantra of why the hell should he share his thoughts on thread... which...lol... and Verbal can go on saying that townies make more inconsistencies than scum really. Which is false, IMO. I usually find myself agreeing with Verbal's points when he rolls town. Totally not getting that feel in this game. 

[Nynaeve]

That was at Des.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

 

Scum are cleaner than town when you look back.  Always.  You should remember that.

 

lol Since when?

 

 

Since I started proving this time and time again like every game I tried iso'ing someone. Sucks, but he's completely right. If you get it in your head that someone's scum, you can pore through their iso and find ALL KINDS of stuff to make you think even further that that person is scum

 

I think since townies don't have as much knowledge as scum, they're more likely to display what seem like inconsistencies when you go through their iso. It's usually just them letting their reads develop organically however, which is usually a towntell

 

 

That's not even what he was saying. He's claiming scum's posts look cleaner than a townie's. 

 

 

I think that point is valid as well, since scum are more likely to be cautious with their posting to keep from slipping or giving town something to go after them with

[Cass]

I actually have to agree that at this point I probably have stronger scum reads on Kiv and Thane than DPR and Wom.

 

Trying to break some notes down, will see where this goes.

[Nynaeve]

 

So Verbal's official response is that I'm reaching. Noted lol

 

What's up with all the "lol"s you've been tossing out?  None of what I'm saying is funny.  You are reaching - to shrug it off with a "lol" is scummy.

 

Oh a new one! lol is a scum tell. FUN!

 

I'm laughing because both you and Barm are using lame reasons to shrug off my findings. It amuses me. 

 

 

It's cool though, I didn't expect you to be delighted with me voting you.