[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Tommyrod]

I mean maybe he is town? I just doubt it. He's been so stupid. TOO stupid.

[TheRagnarok]

Ok, time for a Ragnarant.  Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more.  That needs to stop now.  It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game.  And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention.  Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it.  If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way.  And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine.  But you wouldn't throw these fits in public.  So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention. 

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it.  But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home.  It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others. 

[monstrman]

wow rags I can't believe you took it to that level I'm never signing up for any games you're in

[TheRagnarok]

wow rags I can't believe you took it to that level I'm never signing up for any games you're in

I think I like you.

[hazelkrs1]

Ok, time for a Ragnarant. Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more. That needs to stop now. It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game. And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention. Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it. If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way. And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine. But you wouldn't throw these fits in public. So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention.

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it. But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home. It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others.

Tell em Steve Dave

[Alanna]

Ok, time for a Ragnarant.  Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more.  That needs to stop now.  It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game.  And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention.  Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it.  If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way.  And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine.  But you wouldn't throw these fits in public.  So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention. 

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it.  But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home.  It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others. 

 

+1 :) This is what I'm saying.

[TheRagnarok]

 

Ok, time for a Ragnarant. Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more. That needs to stop now. It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game. And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention. Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it. If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way. And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine. But you wouldn't throw these fits in public. So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention.

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it. But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home. It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others.

Tell em Steve Dave

 

YOU'RE ONE OF THE CULPRITS!

 

And who the hell is Steve Dave?

[hazelkrs1]

Watch Mallrats

 

And I've never said I'm not going to play with anyone else in the game

 

/shrug

[Arsis]

I said I was going to play with myself. Does that count?

[Hallia]

[TheRagnarok]

Oh, and if you truly don't want to play with me anymore, I will, for the good of DM, here on out sign up for ANY future mafia games just to keep you from creating yet another toxic environment with all of your insults and personal attacks and just generally over-obnoxious personality. You're welcome, DM

 

 

 

Watch Mallrats

 

And I've never said I'm not going to play with anyone else in the game

 

/shrug

You are right, the above is what I was referencing, I'm just annoyed at this.  Just ignore it if someone pulls that crap.  if they have a real issue then they will either PM you or they're too childish to handle things like an adult or they just want attention. 

 

I said I was going to play with myself. Does that count?

No, I always approve of that.

[hazelkrs1]

Hallia if I didn't you before I straight up :adore: you now

 

Prob went too far but IDC YOLOHASHSWAG

[Sili Quirrels]

Ok, time for a Ragnarant.  Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more.  That needs to stop now.  It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game.  And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention.  Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it.  If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way.  And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine.  But you wouldn't throw these fits in public.  So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention. 

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it.  But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home.  It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others. 

Who are you referring to?

 

 

i never said i wouldn't play with despothera again.

 

[TheRagnarok]

 

Ok, time for a Ragnarant.  Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more.  That needs to stop now.  It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game.  And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention.  Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it.  If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way.  And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine.  But you wouldn't throw these fits in public.  So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention. 

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it.  But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home.  It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others. 

Who are you referring to?

 

 

i never said i wouldn't play with despothera again.

 

 

This is a long-running problem on DM.  Before my hiatus ~6 months ago it was going on and it was brought up in this game.  So my rant is not just brought about from the happenings in this thread. 

 

I hate, hate, hate when things in mafia are taken outside of the realm of the game.  It's one of the reasons for my hiatus.  I got tired of it.  I didn't whine about it or throw a fit, I just stepped away for a while. 

[Hallia]

Best Halloween ever

 

 

 

 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Ok, time for a Ragnarant.  Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more.  That needs to stop now.  It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game.  And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention.  Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it.  If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way.  And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine.  But you wouldn't throw these fits in public.  So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention. 

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it.  But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home.  It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others. 

Who are you referring to?

 

 

i never said i wouldn't play with despothera again.

 

 

This is a long-running problem on DM.  Before my hiatus ~6 months ago it was going on and it was brought up in this game.  So my rant is not just brought about from the happenings in this thread. 

 

I hate, hate, hate when things in mafia are taken outside of the realm of the game.  It's one of the reasons for my hiatus.  I got tired of it.  I didn't whine about it or throw a fit, I just stepped away for a while. 

 

Honestly, I think it is a problem too. It's pretty bad that people try to bait it, and others react to it. I am going on a small hiatus too, because I reacted to it despite myself.

[monstrman]

hiatuses are lame.

 

Just keep playing every game forever imo

[TheRagnarok]

 

 

 

Ok, time for a Ragnarant.  Sit down, cause I am quite annoyed.

 

Once again, on my read up I saw another example of this bullshit where people talk about not playing with certain people any more.  That needs to stop now.  It's one thing to be a bit of a douche in the thread or say someone's being a douche in a game if you want to get reads, but this not playing with people crap goes way outside the thread and outside the game.  And honestly, I think that people who do it are just whining for attention.  Because if an adult has a real issue with someone else, they take it somewhere privately and deal with it.  If you all had some serious issues, you would have PMed each other and resolved it in some way.  And if that meant you decided privately to not play together, fine.  But you wouldn't throw these fits in public.  So you are either acting like a child or you are whining for attention. 

 

If you have a legitimate issue with someone, PM them about it.  But leave this "I won't sign up if you have" shit at home.  It serves no purpose and ruins the game for others. 

Who are you referring to?

 

 

i never said i wouldn't play with despothera again.

 

 

This is a long-running problem on DM.  Before my hiatus ~6 months ago it was going on and it was brought up in this game.  So my rant is not just brought about from the happenings in this thread. 

 

I hate, hate, hate when things in mafia are taken outside of the realm of the game.  It's one of the reasons for my hiatus.  I got tired of it.  I didn't whine about it or throw a fit, I just stepped away for a while. 

 

Honestly, I think it is a problem too. It's pretty bad that people try to bait it, and others react to it. I am going on a small hiatus too, because I reacted to it despite myself.

 

Honestly, I've been playing for years on various sites and it took a while for me to hit that level(although I have taken small breaks).  If you have already hit that level, you've either been playing too much or things are worse than I thought. 

[berf]

160 Pages. Man.

 

I think it was @Yates that questioned my earlier reads, saying something about them being outdated and thinking from old perspectives. I'll cordially invite you to tell me what I missed if this is the case. I had just caught up on 140 pages and was typing as I went. I haven't had all much time to digest it all beyond what was presented, but early reads and whatnot were apparent. I'm not sure what more you'd want from me? I pulled out as much info from a whole tonne of pretty shitty posting as I could. 

 

Also a lot of defense of me from some people claiming I'm following old meta, or using outdated scumtells, which I find strange. I don't really see how me doing what I'm doing (which so far, hasn't really been much) is too much different from anyone else's rulebook. I'm searching for people who I'm finding to act scummy, or find enough clues to hint at a scum motivation. I'll gladly admit to thinking the phrase 'lock clear' is bizarre though, and I have no idea what a Full Darthe entails. But having said that, DM mafia hasn't changed that much. People are still having meltdowns. There's a whole load of needless wifom by careless players. There's scum out there who are looking down on this freaking monster of a spamfest and just laughing, if not actively participating in it. But anyway.

 

I'm not sure when it became ok to fully cloud any potential vig shot by openly discussing targets and moreso trying to lead it. This only invites interference from scum. And since when was night so chatty? It's still in my understanding that game related stuff overnight only really aids the scum in preparing for day 2, or presenting new targets to NK. The less wifom the better, the whole game is built around reducing it to reveal the scum. The more wifom they have to hide in, the more likely they are to slip through.

 

Just my 2 cents, which might be subscribing to outdated meta.

 

And regarding the overnight chatter, all I'll really say is out of @Desp, @Matty and @Sili, one is likely scum but that seems obvious. @Rag town.

[monstrman]

who is matty?

[berf]

Tommy. 

 

Guh.

[TheRagnarok]

Yeah berf, I think most everyone know I'm town by now.  If I die kill verb. 

[berf]

But I kinda like Verb this game. Which is rare because I hardly trusted him in the few games I played with him.

[TheRagnarok]

Ok, I don't think I've ever played with you before so either you have excellent tone or my juju is still waaaay off after my hiatus.  

 

What about Verb do you like?  I really do need specific examples as I am not a fan. 

[berf]

It's based of what I'd perceive as really pro-town motive when he's posted. He took good positions vs Thane and Sili later on, acted in town's interest with the Thane wagon (despite the flip), and for me personally I don't recall him voting me to blind lynch a slot on day 1 when I was absent.I had him in my maybe lynch pile and that won't change yet, but there are way higher priority targets for me.

 

scumVerb could have caused problems in this game when he's had the opportunity, but hasn't. That's not to say he isn't sticking his next out, but he is doing in such a way that is pro town. Ie not just ruffling feathers for the sake of being a dick. And with Leelou somewhat clearing him, and a lot of town vibes on that slot apparently, that's gotta be taken into consideration also.

 

What don't you like about Verb?