[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[Yates]

Hi AJ.

[Nynaeve]

That old game with open communication.... scooby maybe?... I was townreading Leelou and I trusted her on her townread on Verbal as we all worked together. Basically, he's a hard one to read. And if I'm town reading Lee then I tend to trust her about it. Not to say that what she says goes... I just tend to give more weight to her opinion. 

[Yates]

That old game with open communication.... scooby maybe?... I was townreading Leelou and I trusted her on her townread on Verbal as we all worked together. Basically, he's a hard one to read. And if I'm town reading Lee then I tend to trust her about it. Not to say that what she says goes... I just tend to give more weight to her opinion.

Well. You're a big girl. You can make your own decisions. I had noted way early on - even during my catch up post times - that you cleared Leelou for reasons that were not evident to me. So I'm struggling to understand why you would clear someone based on another person you have cleared for reasons I don't understand. I wanted to bring this to your attention and I have.

[Nynaeve]

I don't see what you don't understand.

 

As far as this game goes specifically, after extensive conversations with Lee about repeatedly rolling scum and how she was going to have a cow if she rolled scum again, I felt that I could tell if she did by her behavior on thread. I felt that she came into the game and maintained a very calm demeanor. So I felt pretty convinced that she rolled town this time. 

 

As far as Verbal goes, I sometimes differ to others when it comes to people I know I can't read as well. I don't really care if it's something you approve of or not. I'll keep doing things the way I consider prudent.

[Nynaeve]

Plus when did I clear Verbal? He's been on my null list and I've since said he's been looking fishy.

[Tommyrod]

Sometimes the linking backfires. There are two players on POG that have the same relationship, Luckbox and Mets, and people expect one to read the other 100% of the time, so when they do get it wrong in a w/v situation the other one ends up getting pushed by the wolves for getting it wrong. I don't know the strength of the Leelou/Verb meta connection but if they're been out of the loop for a while I'm not gonna prioritize that over reading them independently.

[Nynaeve]

I will repeat myself just in case it's not clear. I don't follow Leelou blindly about Verbal. If I were, I would have just townread Verbal and moved along. I didn't. I'm just saying that if I'm townreading her I usually really value her input on Verbal. Whether I choose to agree with her or not is a different story.

[Nynaeve]

Sometimes the linking backfires. There are two players on POG that have the same relationship, Luckbox and Mets, and people expect one to read the other 100% of the time, so when they do get it wrong in a w/v situation the other one ends up getting pushed by the wolves for getting it wrong. I don't know the strength of the Leelou/Verb meta connection but if they're been out of the loop for a while I'm not gonna prioritize that over reading them independently.

 

I wasn't saying you should. I'm simply sharing my thoughts, that's all.

[Tommyrod]

Could you repeat that? It's not clear.

[Nynaeve]

Could you repeat that? It's not clear.

 

[Nynaeve]

have to go exercise. I'll be back later

[Leelou]

Sometimes the linking backfires. There are two players on POG that have the same relationship, Luckbox and Mets, and people expect one to read the other 100% of the time, so when they do get it wrong in a w/v situation the other one ends up getting pushed by the wolves for getting it wrong. I don't know the strength of the Leelou/Verb meta connection but if they're been out of the loop for a while I'm not gonna prioritize that over reading them independently.

 

We've been playing mafia together off and on for about 7 years, we are RL friends and tend to have decent reads on each other. I don't really like always being linked to him in games, but some people tend to push it more than others. 

[Yates]

I don't really like always being linked to him in games, but some people tend to push it more than others.

Do you feel like you are up to the challenge of being held responsible for Verb's flip in this game?

[Leelou]

 

I don't really like always being linked to him in games, but some people tend to push it more than others.

Do you feel like you are up to the challenge of being held responsible for Verb's flip in this game?

 

 

There is always a chance I'm wrong and he should be responsible for proving his alignment to everyone. I just know how I read him. 

[Andrej]

I don't think Nyn looks bad regardless of how Leelou/Verb turn out tbh

 

If she's a wolf this game with the amount of effort she's put into it (regardless of having bad reads at times) I would be shocked.

 

I don't have issue rolling with her as a blue read.

[Tommyrod]

I don't think Nyn looks bad regardless of how Leelou/Verb turn out tbh

 

If she's a wolf this game with the amount of effort she's put into it (regardless of having bad reads at times) I would be shocked.

 

I don't have issue rolling with her as a blue read.

 

I have Nyn and Alanna as higher than you right now.

[Andrej]

Hallia/Leelou/Verb/Tommy/Clov

 

That's basically where I'm at atm. Might swap Tommy with Yates but I feel confident in my ability to recognize town!Yates and I'm getting that vibe here this game. Csarmi is another possibility because I feel like he's fading into the background and I don't like that.

[Andrej]

Nice to know Tom.

[Andrej]

I think you of ALL players this game should know that I'm heavily outside of my wolf range.

[csarmi]

I think you of ALL players this game should know that I'm heavily outside of my wolf range.

Please explain why.

[csarmi]

Hallia/Leelou/Verb/Tommy/Clov

 

That's basically where I'm at atm. Might swap Tommy with Yates but I feel confident in my ability to recognize town!Yates and I'm getting that vibe here this game. Csarmi is another possibility because I feel like he's fading into the background and I don't like that.

Sorry man. I gonna keep fading even more. Can't really help it, next day might be crazy busy and theb I shall be abroad (should have net but still).

 

Don't like it? Dunno what to tell you. Read me on the first 200 pages.

[Andrej]

 

I think you of ALL players this game should know that I'm heavily outside of my wolf range.

Please explain why.

 

Cause he just watched me wolf and get lynched on POG.

[Andrej]

Csarmi I am basically keeping you as a green read because of D1, but I have repeatedly asked you to take stronger stances and to stay current instead of just asking those frivolous questions you always do.

 

I also dislike how you try to chastise me for voting Sili and saying it was inevitable when you weren't voting ANYONE at the time. If you want to maintain your green read then I need you to take a bigger part of the game. You sitting back and complaining how all of the lynches are probably going to flip town when you aren't actively pushing anyone else is not going to look good for you in the long run.

[csarmi]

@AJ - no I mean explain to us what your town range is.

[Andrej]

My town range is me in this game.

 

'nough said imo.

 

My thread presence. My open mindedness. My tendency to try to see things from both POVs and also how I tend to want to give players the benefit of the doubt instead of damn them permanently as a wolf forever. My activity level. My engagement of others. My fluid thought process and how I am able to substantiate my reads based on things I have picked up on ITT.

 

Need I saw more?

 

I'm heavily a villager this round.