[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[WWWwombat]

I do:

 

town:

Clov

Csarmi

Despo

 

Null to town:

Leelou

Tommy

Verb

 

Null to scum:

Alanna

Wombat - moving up though

 

Scummy:

Pral

Thane

Sili

SP

AJ

 

This is a very opportunistic reads list.  The only people you have as town are the doc claim and two people who know you very well.  Also very suspicious how Sili is now firmly in the scum pile when he has 3 total posts.

 

I also didn't like how earlier, you said something to nudge SP's train.  My push towards SP was half serious, half reaction test.  And of all the people who've reacted to it so far, you failed the hardest.  Leelou and Tommy went with it, but at least they put votes down.  Leelou is the kind of player who would be willing to lynch SP here and never look back regardless of her alignment.  Tommy is probably near his wits' end, but it's still a bit sketchy of him.  Yates and Alanna get slight town points for pumping the brakes.

[WWWwombat]

Replace Sili with SP in the 1st paragraph.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

 

Csarmi (1): Clov

Wombat (1): Csarmi

Thane (3): Des, Yates, Leelou

Hally (2); Alanna, AJ

Sili (1): Sili

Verbal (1): Thane

SickPuppets (1): Tommy

Leelou (1): Pral

Pral (1): Hally

 

Not Voting (4): SP, Verbal, Nyn, Wombat

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

 

Deadline - Today 8:30 PM MST

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141015T2030&p0=3862&fg1=80c2da&msg=End+of+Day+1&csz=1

 

Just 7 hours and 42 minuets till deadline

 

 

 

Ok going to the dentist soon so it'll be awhile before I can do another VC. Feel free to do unofficial ones as needed.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Verb playing up the laziness is kinda wolfy I think. I think he understands the game enough to know as a villager that it's more or less his duty to help collect information so just saying he's going to pick his top townie and sheep is #notagoodlook

 

I understand the game enough to know that I can't scumhunt properly without fully reading those ~70 pages I missed.  The next best thing is for me to identify my best town reads in real-time and a few ISOs, and go from there.

 

I don't like the sheep idea myself, but I don't have a better one that doesn't involve me not doing anything but read the game for the next 4 hours.

 

That's what you probably should be doing though. Your sheep idea basically allows you to buddy up to a villager and ditch all responsibility for your read if you're scum here.

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

I've been kinda keeping up over the last day or so, so I'm not completely out of thread flow.

 

Cliff notes: Wombat is looking more townie. Maybe he just had to shake the rust off cause he hasn't played in a few months. Don't think lynching him is optimal today as his game has picked up and I still think Hallia makes a good wagon.

 

Thane/Hallia/Clov wagons are probably decent imo

 

I have some issues with Pral's reads that I will address later. For one I don't think he's every town read me in a game when he was town, but that's kinda minor and just an amusing detail that comes to mind for me. I don't think his Wombat commentary is completely factual though and I do take issue with that. Means bad for Pral, maybe bad for Wombat.

 

Verb playing up the laziness is kinda wolfy I think. I think he understands the game enough to know as a villager that it's more or less his duty to help collect information so just saying he's going to pick his top townie and sheep is #notagoodlook

 

That's all for now, mostly. I'll be around some in real time tonight after the thread for my other game closes. Until then, keep on keeping on village.

 

So no actual explanation for the Hallia vote, and then you say you support Thane and Clov wagons but AGAIN, don't say anything about either of those

 

Actually - one more thing.

 

Yates wasn't it you in a recent game who said you got caught as a wolf for doing that type of catch-up notes posts?

 

Food for thought imo

 

Looks like a lazy wolfy sideline snipe to me

 

Dude what do I really need to continue harping on ITT? You want some commentary on Hallia? Look through my ISO for something other than what fits into your confbias narrative where I called her out for every single little wolfy thing she did. Parking her vote on me as potentially a 'joke vote' cover on around pg 14. Fail logic with me. Fail logic with Alanna. Wolfy pop ins. Large absences from the game. Lazy/sheep votes. She's got cleared because what - she made an 'attempt' to make constructive posts when she was catching heat?

 

Super villagery dude.

 

I've said my piece on Thane. Spaceballs game basically proved I read him pretty badly. I think you're a villager and you obviously seemed convinced so I'm comfortable sheeping my town reads D1. Same goes with Tommy irt Clov even though I have said before I think Clov could be a villager too.

 

I disagree.

 

I caught up and made what I feel are good posts.

 

But if you wanna waste a lynch on a vanilla go ahead.

 

lololol

 

I agree with Des about AJ, btw. Been howling some.

 

lololol

 

I've said that AJ is scummy. It wouldn't surprise me at allllll

 

I've discussed him a couple of times I believe. One where I thought his behavior was off, but that one got put on me.

 

Oh you have? Let's see it.

 

Cause I'm pretty sure I can go back and pull a fair amount of quotes where I make comments about you and the shady stuff you were doing.

 

 

Hold the phone.  See the bold red.  How can you give me crap for wanting to sheep my best town read when you are saying the exact same thing - but it is ok for you?

 

Hypocrite.

 

AJ has a bit more track record of being willing to sheep than you do, imo.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

So, this is where I am

 

AJ

Des

Alanna

Womby

Thane

Csarmi

Yates

SP

Verbal

Nyn

Tommy

Clov

Hally

Sili

Leelou

I'm guessing you haven't seen the Clov claim then. Would Pral do this as scum to derp himself clear?

 

 

He already stated that reads list is as of p. 100.  So not derp.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

You realize he's basically claimed cop, right?

No. When?

He's made soft hints at a PR several times and last night he made a joke about AJ claiming vig but said AJ was claiming cop and was like "haha oops". Search him for "vig" and you'll find it.

 

 

I saw that, but I didn't think it was a cop hint.  Even if he thought soft-claiming a PR was a good idea, he can't have thought hinting cop was.

[Leelou]

 

 

I don't have a deli drawer in my fridge.

But where do you keep your bacon? And sausage? And ham? And other pork products?

 

Also, where do you stand on Sili?

I don't eat bacon or sausage. This can be verified. Ham can sit on the space on the top shelf and pork chops normally find their home on the bottom.

 

Sili is near impossible for me to read, I start leaning scum on him because of things he says and how he jumps around, but I'm not sure if it's more annoyance or not. He has a derp town quality to him. He's firmly in my null pile right now until I can try to figure him out.

[Yates]

This is a very opportunistic reads list.  The only people you have as town are the doc claim and two people who know you very well.  Also very suspicious how Sili is now firmly in the scum pile when he has 3 total posts.

 

I also didn't like how earlier, you said something to nudge SP's train.  My push towards SP was half serious, half reaction test.  And of all the people who've reacted to it so far, you failed the hardest.  Leelou and Tommy went with it, but at least they put votes down.  Leelou is the kind of player who would be willing to lynch SP here and never look back regardless of her alignment.  Tommy is probably near his wits' end, but it's still a bit sketchy of him.  Yates and Alanna get slight town points for pumping the brakes.

Damn. This is good.

 

At the same time, I feel like the Thane wagon has sufficient resistance at this point that I feel okay with my vote. And Sily is mostly gut.

 

I kind of want to resolve Thane to help with some other reads.

 

I have no idea with Hally any more. I think I can see a Queens Gambit coming and she buys Park Place. Blergh.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

I'm guessing you haven't seen the Clov claim then. Would Pral do this as scum to derp himself clear?

Pral said he's only up to page 100 or so.

My point being this: scum would be aware of the claim. Do you believe he really hasn't read that far or do you think it's a derp clear attempt?

 

 

I believe it's legit.  Can't rule out scum but it feels legit to me.

[Yates]

I'm out. See yall in like 4 hours or so.

[Sili Quirrels]

and to be frank, even if they don't, clov is still sketchy. what if there is no doc?

How do you guys treat uncced Doc claims on Day 1 where you typically play?

 

I don't know, never had someone claim. Both my games were open too.

[Hallia]

If yall think I'm scum vote me and be done. Be put my reads out. They're not ranked, but the whole severed head etc doesn't apply. I think x-person is scummy so they go under scummy, I think x-person is town and so they go under town.

[Hallia]

I put - evil phone

[Leelou]

nyn is missing from hallia's list.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

My blue at this point is Des. Clov is now green - was my blue in the initial stages of the game, but I think Des has been the most obvious town.

 

Reason: he has shown zero signs of faking annoyance. When he's been scum, I've seen him blow up and I've wondered if it was legit or not. When he's town, his posts show sincerity and "holier than thou aggression". I see that from him in this game.

 

Leelou hasn't had much of a chance to interact with me, so I need to get that into gear for a proper read on her D2. If she's scum, I'll figure it out.

 

 

 

I'm stuck on whether I want to vote Thane or SP. Thane went after low hanging fruit with me - I haven't been active and he has no way of thinking I could be scum for that. That's garbage. SP is mostly because I can't believe the dude only has a few posts and I'm (slightly hypocritical here) annoyed.

All of SP's posts are him saying he's catching up or had no internet.

Has he commented on the game at all yet? I don't recall him doing so. *

 

* this is within his town range

 

 

I don't think so. All I can remember is sorry, catching up type posts. 

 

 

SP said he would be back at 7:30.  Assuming his time, whenever that is.

[Hallia]

I replied about that already Leelou, I forgot her and Yates and so added that i feel they're both pretty townie

[WWWwombat]

Hally, why do you have SP in the scum pile?

[Leelou]

 

 

 

 

 

 

My blue at this point is Des. Clov is now green - was my blue in the initial stages of the game, but I think Des has been the most obvious town.

 

Reason: he has shown zero signs of faking annoyance. When he's been scum, I've seen him blow up and I've wondered if it was legit or not. When he's town, his posts show sincerity and "holier than thou aggression". I see that from him in this game.

 

Leelou hasn't had much of a chance to interact with me, so I need to get that into gear for a proper read on her D2. If she's scum, I'll figure it out.

 

 

 

I'm stuck on whether I want to vote Thane or SP. Thane went after low hanging fruit with me - I haven't been active and he has no way of thinking I could be scum for that. That's garbage. SP is mostly because I can't believe the dude only has a few posts and I'm (slightly hypocritical here) annoyed.

All of SP's posts are him saying he's catching up or had no internet.

Has he commented on the game at all yet? I don't recall him doing so. *

 

* this is within his town range

I don't think so. All I can remember is sorry, catching up type posts.

SP said he would be back at 7:30. Assuming his time, whenever that is.

Dunno, but sounds close to deadline.

[Tommyrod]

Yates tried a gambit.

 

Lynch him.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

this was what i was saying, though i amended it to vig.

 

i have no clue iv aj is actually vig. could be vt cover for the real vig.

You're here! Huzzah!

 

So my interpretation was correct? You did not claim cop?

 

I didn't.

 

What's the case on me?

[Tommyrod]

FTR wombat, starting up not-discussed wagons at EOD is POG 101.

 

The chance of scum is higher where there's no pressure, all other things equal.

[WWWwombat]

Yates tried a gambit.

 

Lynch him.

 

wut?

[Sili Quirrels]

[unvote]

[v]Thane[/v]

 

sorry about cussing.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Yates tried a gambit.

 

Lynch him.

wut?

I actually got you and him confused and was about to ask Yates how he could take credit for the SP wagon. Disregard. Subway reading will do that.

[Sili Quirrels]

Also, i scanned the last 22 pages, but why is there a wagon on sp?