[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Andrej]

Slendy format fail.

[TheSlenderMan]

#1522 and #1525 are relevant.

 

Also Despot made good points about the newer posts, a few pages back.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

On the Miller-thing. Millers need to die, for sure. But coming out right at once, TG is most probable town. And thus we should keep our townies alive for as long as we can (scum got info, town got numbers, ya?).

 

So yeah, at some point we need to get rid of the WIFOM of the negative utility, but as for D1, I don't think exchanging a negative utility for a NK is a good deal, so lets try to get the scum.

This post is really, really, really bad. Like maybe one of the scummiest short two paragraph posts in the history of ever.

 

Millers come with an inherent WIFOM as it's the perfect scum claim. It's a negative town utility.

 

If I've misunderstood the Miller function then sorry, but yeah...

 

In your post you literally say TG is likely town and we shouldn't mislynch town.... then come right out and say we should lynch him eventually just to remove the wifom

 

It's basically a scumclaim

 

 

Could switch to Vos.

 

Scum flip from him makes me look nice since I was one of his only 'scum reads' and his logic is that I look bad because I target lurkers

This is... really stupid and makes me townread AJ, which is ironic but yeah. No idea why scum would say this.

 

[hazelkrs1]

Fwiw I think something is bugging on DM, I'm trying to quote something but it keeps screwing up and putting my response in the quote. Think DM is drunk

[hazelkrs1]

Stopped at delivery only have a few moments for sure.

 

Right now I'm a bit torn between AJ and Vos.1. I think they could be wolf/wolf with the stances on each other they have given. Further if Vos is mafia which I am reading him strongly as then 2. by rule of threes one of me, AJ and Despo are also. I know it isn't me.

 

3. AJ, why did you discount the Arsis votes in the vc you posted. He was in front but you said it was between you and me. From here it looked like a shot at pushing me when I couldn't respond. 4. Also the way you tried to preemptively spew yourself as town based on a mafia Vos flip stinks.

 

Vos. You put out that you didn't like me going after the miller claim on d1. But then you say he must be lynched. 5. Why not today? You also put it out that you think he is likely town but want to.lynch him. Not good.

 

[unvote]

 

6. [v] Vos

 

7. @Despo, I meant I would consolidate on people in my list. Meaning I will not consolidate on a town read.

 

This post makes me wanna switch back to Turin. Lots of bad logic in this post yet again.

 

1. Possible parroting

2. Bad logic. "Rule of threes" is dumb, doesn't really actually explain how that makes me or AJ more likely to be scum. Turin falling back on a lot of lazy arguments and behaviors in this game. Buzzwords, bad logic like this

3. Reaching imo (and I'm the one who keeps tinfoiling about AJ)

4. Parroting

5. Vos' post was bad but I think the one thing he WAS clear on is why he didn't think today would be good to lynch TG. Fail on Turin's part

6. Purposeful vote fail? Mebbe distancing in this post?

7. That's not consolidating tho. Consolidating =/= voting for your scum reads. Consolidating is switching your vote to secure a lynch, scum reads don't really have anything to do with it. TurinFail.

 

Yeah I can't figure out how to make this work. No matter how much I edit it it keeps adding quote tags where there shouldn't be any. My response is in bold tho

[hazelkrs1]

Hopefully it was just the Turin quote that was bugging

 

 

 

I think Pral just has terrible reads tbh. The only person on his list likely to actually be scum is tsb.

 
 

 

Yates/aj are probably my two strongest town reads.

 
 

 

Tsb/sp/turi/tommy are your go to scum team


Maybe take tommy out for one of the lurkers like pral/krak/vos.

 
This sequence of posts making me feel better about Arsis again. Scum have a lot more trouble handling multiple reads at once, and are usually more singular. Arsis showing that he's paying attention to multiple reads and interactions like this looks good for him imo

[hazelkrs1]

That worked so kewl

[Tommyrod]

Arsis is town.

[Tommyrod]

 

Hopefully it was just the Turin quote that was bugging

 

 

 

I think Pral just has terrible reads tbh. The only person on his list likely to actually be scum is tsb.

 

 

 

Yates/aj are probably my two strongest town reads.

 

 

 

Tsb/sp/turi/tommy are your go to scum team

 

 

Maybe take tommy out for one of the lurkers like pral/krak/vos.

 

This sequence of posts making me feel better about Arsis again. Scum have a lot more trouble handling multiple reads at once, and are usually more singular. Arsis showing that he's paying attention to multiple reads and interactions like this looks good for him imo

 

 

Nice, this is nice.

[Tommyrod]

Oh, and since Arsis is town, we shouldn't be voting for him.

Just FYI.

[hazelkrs1]

And again - don't care about how it makes me look. I understand the perception but that doesn't make it reality by any means. The only truth is that Vos mentioned me in his post. If he flips scum it could mean two things. He was establishing a narrative or he was distancing. Me pointing this out doesn't make it more likely one way or the other.

I disagree entirely. You commenting on it the way you did DEF makes it more likely it was distancing imo.

 

Trying to "clear yourself" off something like that is pretty silly, and besides as town you really shouldn't be that concerned with "clearing" yourself. Your intent in trying to scumhunt should be what clears you

[Andrej]

Turin CFD then?

[Tommyrod]

 

I could buy that.

 

If it were anyone besides tommy how would you feel about them right now? Let's throw meta out of it for a second.

Comfortable enough to post him blueish. My Hally reads him town and I had a moment with Tress.

 

 

Salami what did Tress say that made you soulread her as town?

[Tommyrod]

Turin CFD then?

 

Maybe. Did Vos get clear or something?

[TheSlenderMan]

Turin CFD then?

Y u ignore the Vos-case entirely?

[TheSlenderMan]

Oh wait AJ has his Vote prob on Vos NEVER MIND.

[TheSlenderMan]

Still though don't remember barely any commentary from AJ re: the accusations.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

Hopefully it was just the Turin quote that was bugging

 

 

 

I think Pral just has terrible reads tbh. The only person on his list likely to actually be scum is tsb.

 

 

 

Yates/aj are probably my two strongest town reads.

 

 

 

Tsb/sp/turi/tommy are your go to scum team

 

 

Maybe take tommy out for one of the lurkers like pral/krak/vos.

 

This sequence of posts making me feel better about Arsis again. Scum have a lot more trouble handling multiple reads at once, and are usually more singular. Arsis showing that he's paying attention to multiple reads and interactions like this looks good for him imo

 

 

Nice, this is nice.

 

 

Tommy when you and I xpost it makes me all kinds of aroused

 

[hazelkrs1]

I think TI/Vos counterwagons would be exhilarating

[Andrej]

 

And again - don't care about how it makes me look. I understand the perception but that doesn't make it reality by any means. The only truth is that Vos mentioned me in his post. If he flips scum it could mean two things. He was establishing a narrative or he was distancing. Me pointing this out doesn't make it more likely one way or the other.

I disagree entirely. You commenting on it the way you did DEF makes it more likely it was distancing imo.

 

Trying to "clear yourself" off something like that is pretty silly, and besides as town you really shouldn't be that concerned with "clearing" yourself. Your intent in trying to scumhunt should be what clears you

 

I think I'm pretty clear. I think I have made my thoughts transparent as possible and the only reason I am suspect is because you and others are paranoid that I'm some mega wolf.

 

What you're saying is still purely perspective and not fact. There's literally only two outcomes to this situation as I have already stated and both are equally plausible. Me pointing it out just makes your perception lean in one direction more than the other.

[Cory Caboose]

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (5) – manbat , dice, Pral, Darthe, Halligeddon

TI (2) –  GleMeri, Arsis

SickPuppets (1) - Yates

Nervositee (5) - Des, Tomstress, TheSlenderMan, AJ, TI

 

Not Voting (4): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

[Andrej]

Still though don't remember barely any commentary from AJ re: the accusations.

 

There really wasn't much on my part.

[Krakalakachkn]

I think TI/Vos counterwagons would be exhilarating

 

Did he ever respond to that post you made back on page 21?

[Andrej]

Regardless, this is all premature tinfoiling before the fact.

 

I don't know what Vos is gonna flip. I was pointing out that if he is scum, then his posts should pseudo-clear me.

 

If he's scum then I accept the consequences of the connection that has been established and I expect we'll conduct business as usual.

 

Otherwise, shut up about it imo

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

And again - don't care about how it makes me look. I understand the perception but that doesn't make it reality by any means. The only truth is that Vos mentioned me in his post. If he flips scum it could mean two things. He was establishing a narrative or he was distancing. Me pointing this out doesn't make it more likely one way or the other.

I disagree entirely. You commenting on it the way you did DEF makes it more likely it was distancing imo.

 

Trying to "clear yourself" off something like that is pretty silly, and besides as town you really shouldn't be that concerned with "clearing" yourself. Your intent in trying to scumhunt should be what clears you

 

I think I'm pretty clear. I think I have made my thoughts transparent as possible and the only reason I am suspect is because you and others are paranoid that I'm some mega wolf.

 

What you're saying is still purely perspective and not fact. There's literally only two outcomes to this situation as I have already stated and both are equally plausible. Me pointing it out just makes your perception lean in one direction more than the other.

 

 

Firstly, kinda funny exercise- searching your iso for the worst "transparent". You spew that about yourself a crapton, say you're constantly being transparent. In fact the way you keep touting your towniness this game is partially what has me tinfoiling on you. Town!AJ not usually THAT concerned with how "towny" he looks, he's more aggro about catching scum.

 

Second and this is a big one- defending yourself by saying it's all speculation and not fact looks really, really bad imo. IT'S DAY 1. EVERYTHING is going to be speculative. And besides, how many actual "facts" do you ever have to work with in mafia? Not many. So much of it is speculative and shifting sands. You trying to defend yourself with this reasoning is to me

 

And my perception, and other's perception, IS what is important here. You tried preemptively clearing yourself based on someone else saying something about you, and well that's bad.

 

And no, we're not going to just shut up about stuff that's making you sweat under the collar

 

 

I think TI/Vos counterwagons would be exhilarating

 

Did he ever respond to that post you made back on page 21?