[Advanced] Woodstock 1969 Mafia - Town wins

[Tyler Glembo]

i'm trying to hunt for scum, for real. And i'm not concerned about being lynched, that will be town's problem, not mine.

 

Not true.  If you weren't "concerned" you wouldn't have made multiple posts in succession about it when people weren't even voting you.

[Tommyrod]

Thane it confuses me that A) you think claiming is the only way you could be capable of clearing yourself and B) you refuse to claim even if you get lynched as a result. Is that correct? Why would you think that's a good plan?

[Pralaya]

Not sure why we have such a short day one actually - taking weekend in account.

 

It is nearing 60 pages. Agreed not everyone has been active but in general, a game with a big Day 1 tends to get slow later in the game because people don't have the interest to re-read and stuff. And, it isn't that short either.

[BFG]

Ok, so to compare Town Thane (OUAT)

 

Joke posts, joins RTE train (Archer joke train) votes Dawn to add pressure to his question about her actions. Questions Tina on defending Dawn, explains his vote, sort of nails Nikon, still wary of everyone, more jokes, analyses votes, says he's blunt, analyses votes, votes Basel...

 

That was page 1 of his iso. Similarities to that game include his position that people who post are townier,

 

Differences I'm not seeing analysis or questions or votes this time. Posts a reads list after Turin asks for one formatted for a LD (actually how long this takes to be done in a useable manner makes me think that the claim thing could be Town Thane).

[Krakalakachkn]

Hey Pral, could we get a VC?

[Thane Vakarian]

 

"That'll be town's problem, not mine"

Whoa.

 

seeing the last games were less than pleasant for me, i've decided not to let a game get to me anymore. So, if it seems like i don't c.are, wrong, i do care about playing and winning with town. I just don't put that much effort into my defense seeing i suck at defending myself and it'll only leave me frustrated. 

 

Tommy: i'm not that good a player as to be able to clear myself like that. And claiming is a last chance attempt to not be lynched as townie. I would, but certainly not now

[Pralaya]

Updated VC:

 

Des (1): Csarmi

Darthe (3): AJ, Vos, Des

Arsis (2): Dice, DT

Dice (1): Hallia

Hallia (1): Krak

Vos (1): Arsi

Lenlo(2): Thane, TG

Thane (1): Tommy

 

 

Not Voting: Darthe, BFG, Kates, Lenlo

 

Need 9 votes to lynch

 

Deadline set on Monday Night EST 11:30 PM. Less than 12 hours

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140909T09&p0=438&msg=Woodstock+Mafia+Deadline

[Yates]

Deadline set on Monday Night EST 11:30 PM. Less than 12 hours

FWIW - Yates likely won't be caught up by then. Opening weekend MNF Party as a Giants fan is going to win 100 out of 10 times.

[Thane Vakarian]

i find it surprising that you pull all the old threads concerning me, and aren't looking at this game BFG.... 

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

"That'll be town's problem, not mine"

 

Whoa.

seeing the last games were less than pleasant for me, i've decided not to let a game get to me anymore. So, if it seems like i don't c.are, wrong, i do care about playing and winning with town. I just don't put that much effort into my defense seeing i suck at defending myself and it'll only leave me frustrated.

 

Tommy: i'm not that good a player as to be able to clear myself like that. And claiming is a last chance attempt to not be lynched as townie. I would, but certainly not now

Thane: one thing I'll tell you for the future is that addendums like "i do care about winning and playing with town" are scummy because town doesn't append "as town" or "with town" to their thoughts because they know they are town; it's implied already. No need to say it. This tell works reliably well and you've triggered it a few times in this game. I think someone else did too. Arsis maybe?

[BFG]

Thane it confuses me that A) you think claiming is the only way you could be capable of clearing yourself and B) you refuse to claim even if you get lynched as a result. Is that correct? Why would you think that's a good plan?

Actually in OUAT he spent most of the game believing people when they said they were town - lol, it worked in that game because town had a LD (not Thane) so mafia really didn't want to say 'I'm Town'

[Thane Vakarian]

 

 

"That'll be town's problem, not mine"

 

Whoa.

seeing the last games were less than pleasant for me, i've decided not to let a game get to me anymore. So, if it seems like i don't c.are, wrong, i do care about playing and winning with town. I just don't put that much effort into my defense seeing i suck at defending myself and it'll only leave me frustrated.

 

Tommy: i'm not that good a player as to be able to clear myself like that. And claiming is a last chance attempt to not be lynched as townie. I would, but certainly not now

Thane: one thing I'll tell you for the future is that addendums like "i do care about winning and playing with town" are scummy because town doesn't append "as town" or "with town" to their thoughts because they know they are town; it's implied already. No need to say it. This tell works reliably well and you've triggered it a few times in this game. I think someone else did too. Arsis maybe?

 

Point taken. Just wanted to clarify that i want to win the game. And i'm town. Scum wants to win too, but they can hardly win with town, can they? Could be my messed up logic.....

[Krakalakachkn]

Unvote Vote Vos

[Thane Vakarian]

BFG, i do hope we see more of you during this game. Now, besides obviously me, who's on your radar?

[Tommyrod]

Nah townies hardly ever make statements like that. But scum does all the time. Scum tends to over-explain their reasoning to look thorough but overdo it. Townies just get to the point.

[BFG]

 

 

Keep in mind this is a hybrid hammer game so we don't need majority to achieve a lynch.

 

So what?  All that does is make train analysis more difficult since you don't actually need to hit majority.

 

 

This will challenge me since it is not a game mechanic I'm accustomed to. Allowing scum to simply not vote while town slowly kills itself off is just not sitting well with me at the moment.

Also getting modkilled intentionally is way against the spirit of the game. It's plain cheating and I'd put it level with, say, sneaking into dead threads.

DAAYUMM.

 

 

 

 

Keep in mind this is a hybrid hammer game so we don't need majority to achieve a lynch.

 

So what?  All that does is make train analysis more difficult since you don't actually need to hit majority.

 

 

This will challenge me since it is not a game mechanic I'm accustomed to. Allowing scum to simply not vote while town slowly kills itself off is just not sitting well with me at the moment.

 

This was the game mechanic used in Tron. But if you think mafia will not be voting, then that helps you id them so I don't see the problem.

[Tommyrod]

Unvote Vote Vos

I like this, both the vote and you moving yours when you saw the VC.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Vos[/v]

 

One advantage of hybrid hammer is scum are more worried when a scum wagon has 3-4 votes than they might be in maj hammer system.

[Krakalakachkn]

Nah townies hardly ever make statements like that. But scum does all the time. Scum tends to over-explain their reasoning to look thorough but overdo it. Townies just get to the point.

 

I'd give that a 70% reliability.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Nah townies hardly ever make statements like that. But scum does all the time. Scum tends to over-explain their reasoning to look thorough but overdo it. Townies just get to the point.

I'd give that a 70% reliability.

This is an example of a townie getting to the point.

[Thane Vakarian]

i'm an oddball.... i try to explain things how i see them, i put thing so i try to make myself clear (even if it seemingly makes me look scummy).... 

[Tyler Glembo]

i'm an oddball.... i try to explain things how i see them, i put thing so i try to make myself clear (even if it seemingly makes me look scummy).... 

 

Ellipses are a scumtell.  Accurate 4% of the time.

[Tyler Glembo]

Nah townies hardly ever make statements like that. But scum does all the time. Scum tends to over-explain their reasoning to look thorough but overdo it. Townies just get to the point.

 

Except for OP analysis. Anybody who opens a game saying " 'Sup?" is always scum.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

i'm an oddball.... i try to explain things how i see them, i put thing so i try to make myself clear (even if it seemingly makes me look scummy).... 

 

Ellipses are a scumtell.  Accurate 4% of the time.

 

 

i knew i could count on you

[BFG]

I dunno about the soft claiming, really. All I know is discussing your tactic out in the open is counter productive. 

 

Des: It's not black and white though. I mainly agree with you, however, soft claiming can be a good way for VTs to draw kills away from PRs. 

 

So Thane's soft claim can go ahead and float around there, it can be either way, let's leave it to mafia to try and decipher it, yes? 

 

I'm gonna go ahead and [v]Darthe[/v]. Even though he hasn't been on any of my lists. I haven't really paid any attention to him this game. Seeing his posts in succession (thnx Tommy) made it a pretty safe place to lynch today.

Has Vos given a town read on Thane? Could be TMI?

[Tyler Glembo]

i knew i could count on you

 

I'm GOAT.  So, what are your reads?  Who do you find scummy regarding the reactions to the situation around yourself?