[Advanced] Woodstock 1969 Mafia - Town wins

[hazelkrs1]

Okay on laptop finally. Let's see what slipped through the cracks while engaging with Tommyscumrod

 

Only 20 mins or so before I start audit tho, will prob be doing a full reread after audit tho (unless VS game started and took off like crazy)

[Tommyrod]

I'M THE COP. THAT IS A HARD CLAIM. I AM NOT JOKING OR PULLING A GAMBIT. I AM THE COP. MY ROLE HAS A "NEGATIVE UTILITY" TWIST WHERE IF I VIEW 3 TOWNIES I LOSE MY POWER; ERGO I HAVE TO TRY AND VIEW SCUM MOSTLY BUT I KNOW I AM NEVER MAKING IT FAR ENOUGH IN A GAME AS TOWN FOR IT TO MATTER SO HERE WE ARE. YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO PUSH ME. YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO EVEN LOOK SUSPICIOUSLY IN MY DIRECTION. ANY SINGLE WORD AGAINST ME IS GOING TO BE A FULL SCUM CLAIM BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS FLIPPING THE EXACT ROLE I AM CLAIMING RIGHT NOW.

 

WE ARE LYNCHING DES TODAY UNLESS I SEE AN -EXTREMELY- COMPELLING CASE FOR WHY WE SHOULD LYNCH SOMEONE ELSE.

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

YEAH DES, IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL OF ME TO HARD CLAIM ROLES THAT EXIST IN EVERY MAFIA GAME WHEN I'M SCUM SO THAT I CAN GET CC'D AND GUARANTEED MY OWN DEATH.

 

THAT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE ME.

 

Jesus christ you're an idiot.

 

Meh, if you're scum you're still having a bad game, but you could always either A) try to wifom the CC situation if that happened or B) trying to at least out the cop before you go down

 

If you are actually the Cop tho you have legit played an awful game so far. Claiming Cop D1 because ONE PERSON suspects you because you think that claim will somehow ensure that person is lynched and is scum is Tier 0 type play. My unborn son wouldn't play so bad a strat on D1 as a Cop.

[Tommyrod]

If I was anyone else you'd probably be right, but in a small game when I'm the N1 kill almost always, I have far better odds claiming early and asking for a doc protect.

[hazelkrs1]

I'M THE COP. THAT IS A HARD CLAIM. I AM NOT JOKING OR PULLING A GAMBIT. I AM THE COP. MY ROLE HAS A "NEGATIVE UTILITY" TWIST WHERE IF I VIEW 3 TOWNIES I LOSE MY POWER; ERGO I HAVE TO TRY AND VIEW SCUM MOSTLY BUT I KNOW I AM NEVER MAKING IT FAR ENOUGH IN A GAME AS TOWN FOR IT TO MATTER SO HERE WE ARE. YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO PUSH ME. YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO EVEN LOOK SUSPICIOUSLY IN MY DIRECTION. ANY SINGLE WORD AGAINST ME IS GOING TO BE A FULL SCUM CLAIM BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS FLIPPING THE EXACT ROLE I AM CLAIMING RIGHT NOW.

 

WE ARE LYNCHING DES TODAY UNLESS I SEE AN -EXTREMELY- COMPELLING CASE FOR WHY WE SHOULD LYNCH SOMEONE ELSE.

 

Consecutive caps locks posts = #FULLRUSTLEDSCUM

 

And fyi that's not even remotely a negative utility role at all- this game isn't even that big right? So viewing three townies would still help strengthen the POE pretty well, assuming they didn't die first, so yeah looks like you just trying to pre-wifom the CC situation already

[Tommyrod]

Okay... so Des, instead of being reasonable and backing off of me after my claim, is doubling down on being scum. Good. That makes it easy.

You die. Goodbye Des.

[hazelkrs1]

If I was anyone else you'd probably be right, but in a small game when I'm the N1 kill almost always, I have far better odds claiming early and asking for a doc protect.

 

That's the thing tho- it is a small game, so your "negative utilitity" modifier doesn't make any sense to me. That's gaming the mod/setup, but yeah, viewing three townies in this game would be pretty friggin leet. I usually try and view lynchbait type players as a Cop in small games because of this- finding one or two scum is meh, but being able to rope them all in a corner by building a badass POE is TOP TIER

[Tommyrod]

Des: look at all the shits I give that you don't like the flavor on my role.

Do you see them?

No?

Hmm.

[Hallia]

Due to my own role, I can verify that what Tommy is saying is true.

[hazelkrs1]

Okay... so Des, instead of being reasonable and backing off of me after my claim, is doubling down on being scum. Good. That makes it easy.

 

You die. Goodbye Des.

 

I'm doubling down on you not being this terrible as town. Don't really believe it after all the games I've seen you in. The only tinfoil side of me is remembering how much you raged when you were being mislynched D1 in Hoof's game, but eh you know how I am about tinfoiling about someone like you.

 

Again- if you actually are the Cop here you've played this absolutely the worst way you could have, and I AM still town so you did so for even more dipshit reasons. If you're the cop I'm gonna be SMHing for a while- you NEED to learn how to freaking not lose your cool and rage so hard at people suspecting you- easily the biggest flaw in your game. If you're scum, well then blah blah keep posturing, and hopefully the real Cop doesn't out himself.

 

Inb4 you criticize me or my play- you might think my biggest flaw is tunneling- but you never ONCE gave me any indication you could be town here after we started thunderdoming. You just dropped everything, stopped trying to pay attention to others or scumhunt, and went into full on RAGE AT DESPOT mode and tried making me look as bad as possible. Learn to towntell.

[Tommyrod]

Due to my own role, I can verify that what Tommy is saying is true.

Just try not to get framed this time

[hazelkrs1]

Due to my own role, I can verify that what Tommy is saying is true.

 

Oh Jesus Christ. If you're town and Tommy isn't lying........ just freaking ....... GRRRRR I wanna cuss so bad.

 

IF YOU ARE BOTH TOWN PR'S YOU BOTH PLAYED THIS INSANELY BAD. CLAIMING OR HINTING AT YOUR ROLES EARLY IN GAMES IS BAAAAAAAAAD.

 

Hallia WHYYYYYYYYYY do you do this?

 

Christ I need to step away for a second. Good freaking Lord.

[hazelkrs1]

Jesus Christ you both botched this SOOOOOOO bad if you are both town PR's. I don't even care about tact at this point- you guys just ARA+RAGAGAHGAF that was stupid to do. All to "catch" Despot, the townie who was trying to find scum since he entered the game. Jesus Christ.

[Tommyrod]

 

Okay... so Des, instead of being reasonable and backing off of me after my claim, is doubling down on being scum. Good. That makes it easy.

 

You die. Goodbye Des.

 

I'm doubling down on you not being this terrible as town. Don't really believe it after all the games I've seen you in. The only tinfoil side of me is remembering how much you raged when you were being mislynched D1 in Hoof's game, but eh you know how I am about tinfoiling about someone like you.

 

Again- if you actually are the Cop here you've played this absolutely the worst way you could have, and I AM still town so you did so for even more dipshit reasons. If you're the cop I'm gonna be SMHing for a while- you NEED to learn how to freaking not lose your cool and rage so hard at people suspecting you- easily the biggest flaw in your game. If you're scum, well then blah blah keep posturing, and hopefully the real Cop doesn't out himself.

 

Inb4 you criticize me or my play- you might think my biggest flaw is tunneling- but you never ONCE gave me any indication you could be town here after we started thunderdoming. You just dropped everything, stopped trying to pay attention to others or scumhunt, and went into full on RAGE AT DESPOT mode and tried making me look as bad as possible. Learn to towntell.

 

 

The number of town things you'd done up to the point you flipped a switch and declared me LOCKSCUM was literally 0. I would still dayvig you right now if I could. Nobody that is good at this game would blame me for it.

 

I decided to claim on D1 the moment I got my PM, so it's not exactly in response to you, but I am beyond disgusted by the fact that you have very little conception of what a good argument is, what townies act like, or what scum act like. Playing with you when we're not scum/scum is a chore and it shouldn't be. Get better.

 

You have insane myopia and tried to find every conceivable reason you could to call me scum, even fabricating absolute B.S. reasons that don't exist, and even now are trying to say I'm just bad but you're not scum. That's not gonna fly. I do intend to lynch you. Try to talk me out of it.

[hazelkrs1]

Due to my own role, I can verify that what Tommy is saying is true.

 

Ftr, I don't even UNDERSTAND how Hallia can "verify" this being true. Any flavor things along the lines of "Do _____ 3 times and you lose your power" DO NOT confirm that Tommy is telling the truth, either of them could just have a scum role that has similar flavor.

 

I will say tho that Hallia soft claiming/hinting/claiming her role early on for no freaking reason does make her very likely to at least be telling the truth about being a PR. Not very helpful, but eh.

[Hallia]

So, me saving you from tunneling on Tommy the whole day, thus wasting it is bad?

[Hallia]

TOMMY HIS JIMMIES, THEY ARE RUSTLED!

[Tommyrod]

So, me saving you from tunneling on Tommy the whole day, thus wasting it is bad?

 

His response if the situation was reversed would be

 

"LOL TOMMY IS JUST MAD THAT HE CAN'T CALL ME SCUM ANYMORE!

 

#RUSTLEDSCUM

 

#LOCKCLEAR

 

"

[Arsis]

Why claim day 1 no matter what? There is no guarantee your the nk day 1. Especially if you played it like you did in the Avengers game. 3 looks aren't really so bad. Could you make me understand why you went thus route? You could have played it semi-scummy so scum would leave you alive.

 

 

Now, you're trying to get the doc to visit you? Doc should self-protection tonight no matter what. No mafia watcher/tracker bs. Let tommy die if he's the cop. It's what he gets for claiming day 1.

[hazelkrs1]

You can do whatever you freaking want Tommy. I could give two shits right now. It's possible we just had two town PR's out themselves on D1 for NO FREAKING REASON, when it didn't help town catch scum IN ANY FREAKING WAY. It's bad play, plain and simple.

 

Then, if you end up getting me lynched, you'll have wasted a freaking day and lynch for NOTHING. Scum can just act like this was just a giant pissing contest and lurk in the background while you rage at me FOR TRYING TO CATCH SCUM.

 

Soooooo irritated right now.

[Arsis]

I'm over this fight. I just want to be clear. Doc should self-protection tonight. Is rand in this game. He'd definitely try to protect tommy and get tracked/watched tonight.

[Andrej]

You guys are dumb.

 

I'll be back tomorrow.

 

I lied about being back tomorrow - you guys are pissing me off so I'm gonna try to reign this stupid Town in before you guys let it go up in flames.

 

Des is either confirmed VT or scum at this point, I say we leave it at that for now.

[csarmi]

 

 

Due to my own role, I can verify that what Tommy is saying is true.

Ftr, I don't even UNDERSTAND how Hallia can "verify" this being true. Any flavor things along the lines of "Do _____ 3 times and you lose your power" DO NOT confirm that Tommy is telling the truth, either of them could just have a scum role that has similar flavor.

 

I will say tho that Hallia soft claiming/hinting/claiming her role early on for no freaking reason does make her very likely to at least be telling the truth about being a PR. Not very helpful, but eh.

Now that is classic scum!Despo fishing.

 

You could trademark it.

 

[unvote]

 

[V]Despo[/v]

[Andrej]

Why claim day 1 no matter what? There is no guarantee your the nk day 1. Especially if you played it like you did in the Avengers game. 3 looks aren't really so bad. Could you make me understand why you went thus route? You could have played it semi-scummy so scum would leave you alive.

 

 

Now, you're trying to get the doc to visit you? Doc should self-protection tonight no matter what. No mafia watcher/tracker bs. Let tommy die if he's the cop. It's what he gets for claiming day 1.

 

This is wolfy.

 

Even if scum do have a Watcher, them seeing the Doc visit Tommy still puts them in a bind when it comes to N2 as to try to shoot Tommy or take out the Doc. Scum tracker has a very small chance of picking correctly to find someone visiting Tom.

[Hallia]

If one of the options is scum, why would you leave it at that?