[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Drunk Tank]

 

No but you were calling me scummy.

That's pretty much the same thing.

If someone said they were going to shoot me you wouldn't object, right?

You're clearly in a camp that thinks I'm scummy and that's why you're included.

 

I never direct vig shots. 

 

Do you ever dabble in ricochet??

[Blackhoof]

@ len   missedc a tommy claim?"??  Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus    multiple times.

 

 there was a twin. 

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility?  Why would anyone believe him now?

 

 

you are tunnelling terribly on him now. I feel so very secure with my vote.

 

and it is clear that the claim of twins and masons is the same thing- he implied his twin was a mason to begin with, and we all assumed as much anyway.

 

 

 

Dice is town in this game.  If he were scum he wouldn't toss out any opinion that didn't fit the status quo generally.  I think BH looks odd, he tends to try and figure out what is going on in the fringes of games as town and here he is actively attempting to influence main issues without fully involving himself.  

 

Still, I think Red is actually getting some traction so [v] Red [/v]

 

I agree about Dice. He looks town to me. 

 

 

 

Vote Arsis

 

Seemed quickest to jump on my bandwagon with the least amount of reasoning imo

Soon as dayphase started and this is what we get?  You're the first vote, there is no bandwagon (And reading down the the bottom of the page, there was no bandwagon, well on you.  On Tommy though, is a different story.

 

Bandwagon as in popular choice/opinions not votes obviously.

Arsis, Tress, Tina, and a few others were chomping at the bit calling for me to be vigged.

You say you agree with them and include yourself in the group. 

I think that fits the definition of a bandwagon.

 

Even if you want to argue the semantics of bandwagon my real point was the fact that Arsis was calling me scum with the least amount of reasoning that made sense to me. Unlike the others which put at least some effort into explaining what they didn't like about what I was saying his posts were just opportunistic.

 

 

I never joined in on the "vig Nolder" thing. 

 

 

I think I'm bored with the general idiocy going on ITT. 76 pages of nothingness and "bad vibes" as reasoning for votes do not work for me (when I choose to read said pages). No real substance.

 

I claim Bodyguard. Can we quote PM's still?

Plain regular bodyguard? No flavor? No superhero nonsense which equates to bodyguard but is a super cool superhero version?

 

 

Speaking of role fishing. lol 

 

Anyway, I´m beginning to get a town feeling for Arsis. I have never played with him before but I don´t think anyone would play this way as mafia.

 

 

The way Hally caught up makes me think she can be town but I found it odd that she choose some of those quotes over others. I wonder why she has a town feeling for Tommy.

 

 

I really wish more people could just state in a short post who they are suspicious of and why. 

 

 

is it really role-fishing if the person volunteers the information?

[Tommyrod]

@ len   missedc a tommy claim?"??  Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus    multiple times.

 

 there was a twin. 

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility?  Why would anyone believe him now?

This isn't a townie. This is scum who is fixated on an outdated point and can't be bothered (or isn't capable of) developing his reads.

[hazelkrs1]

Catching up in other game took all freaking night. Luckily I got some stuff to take care of today but mall doesn't open till 9 so I have some extra time to catchup in here.

[Lenlo]

@ len   missedc a tommy claim?"??  Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus    multiple times.

 

 there was a twin. 

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility?  Why would anyone believe him now?

Except 2 of those is the same claim and the others were jokes as far as I saw. This doesnt read good to me, like hes trying to get the Tommy train back into the spotlight.

[hazelkrs1]

 

1 - (about the "freudian slip"). You caught me

Amazed nobody pointed this out.  It's not a normal way to speak and is a pretty obvious sign of a guilty conscious.  Also that last scene was about me.

 

[v] vos [/v]

 

 

People stopped talking about this misrep and they shouldn't have. Darthe never explained or responded to how scummy of a move that was, and instead pulled his patented "Oh I don't care about the game blahblah everyone's dumb" and then claimed his role in a somewhat suspicious manner (as in, made it seem like he was just a normal BG, nothing special, no character claim even tho that wouldn't have sold me, it still looked weird without it)

 

Ftr, I was considering moving my vote to Red (since TG isn't taking off atm), until I saw another post of hers while catching up as well as the fact that Darthe approves of the train on her.

 

Des can we get a quote as proof to show you were pmed by Red?

 

If yall want to I can, but Red already admitted to it and it wasn't really much. I think she messaged me and then I msged her back twice but she didn't read it before Day started so couldn't respond. The PM itself wasn't really incriminating, fwiw, altho the fact that she reached out to many she would normally be adversarial with did seem weird

 

(Key wot chopped out, click arrow in upper right hand corner to see the original)

 

I like Key's recent wots btw (def had a few mindmelds), and they're much easier to read thank you Key

 

I mean

 

 

 

Key looks shady today.  I agree with BH and Len etc that Red looks bad for trying to play off of people in PM's.  Of course, Red has looked bad this entire game but nobody is really listening to that atm.

 

Also, <3 hally, just saw your post from earlier.

 

I disagree about Key but more importantly- I feel like those who have spoken out against Red (myself, Xthrax) have been pretty vocal about it, and def a few others seemed open to her being scum considering the PM thing.

 

You saying nobody is listening to that and later saying you couldn't get traction for a lynch on her reads completely disingenuous to me

 

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So, no one else ever asked X what these were about?

 

X, were these posts significant at all, or just you typing all the keys in order and then reverse to mess around? That kind of thing doesn't really seem like you...

 

Would be willing to get behind a Dice or TG lynch for today if Tsuki isn't going to happen.

 

Still don't think Tsuki's thought process is lining up. Already touched on what I perceived as a TMI slip (which apparently was a PR, so I'd be willing to drop that), but I still dislike his recap of Hallia's meta which points to her being town and his handling of Tom's claim and the subsequent conclusion it brought him to. Not to mention Hallia seems heavily coasting right now (which is par) but it makes his easy town read more suspect.

 

My thoughts echo Nolder's irt Dice's reasons for continuing to push Tom.

 

With TG I admit it would be more so a sponge read from others who I am leaning town on. I can agree on the point that his catch up post and following reads look like one of those scummy 'here's some content' sort of posts and there was a large lull in his gameplay from how he started out heavy with the spam and then died down (which could just be IRL stuff). I did catch early on how he said that normally he'd be willing to kickstart the game but instead was opting to continue spamming because it was Dawn 0, which pinged me then.

 

Still got a town read on AJ but emphasized looked kinda weird to me, bad tone ("I'd be willing to drop that")

 

AJ, care to espouse on that?

 

 

Something I forgot to point out about TG before I ran audit earlier- when he was asking Tommy why he felt so town on Tsuki, it read more like TG trying to fish for Tommy's twin than trying to see if it was a legit read or not

 

Anyhoo, gonna catch up in other game now. Can someone refresh me on when deadline is? Skimmed hardcore to catch up

 

Despo, bad logic is a bad thing.  Me pushing Tommy is not because I'm trying to stifle scumhunting or pull out partners, but because I'm trying to look for bad logic and missteps which are a primo way to catch players like Tommy out as scum (besides his lolcatting that is).  What is interesting on you so far is that you made a decision on me and now you're using confirmation bias with all further quotes.  Narrative.

 

Des I'm gonna join you on TG wagon. I think Wombat should as well. There's something off about his tone and aggression for sure. He's making all kinds of unnecessary statements like the "regardless of if you're town or scum" comment you pointed out. I'm gonna roll with that, see where the wagon goes, see who dies of dysentery.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]TG[/v]

 

The sheep is strong with this one.  Comments like "there's something off" are a great way of saying you have no idea at all and are just hoping to build the train enough that it'll take off eventually.

 

 

Don't like this response. Seems like AtE in the first part (trying to make me think my read on him is confbias), and his sheep comment about Tommy was pretty redundant considering Tommy's post started with "Des I'm gonna join you".

 

(chopped out Key's wot that had a few responses to my posts in it, again click on arrow for full post)

 

I understand that some of the things I point out will be a stretch, but I don't like holding back on that kind of stuff- I might point out something that makes someone else think of something they saw in a different light or something which could lead them to point out something better or something.

 

So btw I'm def feeling pretty good about you while catching up, but before I LOCK CLEAR you I want a non-wot post summarizing your top three scum and town reads, and why. Thanks in advance

 

(chopped out Red's wot responding to points from X)

 

This was the first post I saw from Red that made me think she could be town after all this game. The vigor with which she breaks apart every single little point to respond in detail looks more like tunnel-obsessed town Red than obfuscating scum. I completely disagree with her case on X, he's one of my strongest town reads in fact, but this post along with Darthe advocating her lynch has me reviewing my read on her. Stay tuned.

 

I'm losing track of this game.

 

TG, do you promise me you aren't scum? I'll vote elsewhere if you can shake this doubt off me.

 

Ewwwwww.

 

 

I'm losing track of this game.

 

TG, do you promise me you aren't scum? I'll vote elsewhere if you can shake this doubt off me.

 

Yes I'm town, but Ic ant convince you of my role or alignment, you're going to have to figure out I'm town by looking at my posts.

 

 

This screams staged to me. Def feeling like it's possible Tommy and TG are wolf/wolf together.

[hazelkrs1]

 

No. I had hoped for something more.

 

Sorry, did I promise something more?

 

 

I feel like I remember having an early town read on NotBob, but yeah his overcasual tone here when interacting with Tina diminished that somewhat. Then I remembered he was sticking to his "scumread" of Darthe (if it is that, when he explained he made it seem completely meta/policy, not developed from a read), and considering how Darthe pinged me on catchup I won't slide NB out of the POE yet, but I do wanna see actual scumhunting effort from him at some point.

 

as for the rest  im not seeing the Vos stuff. I think he may be right about getting set up.

 

I actually think Darthe is town fwiw

 

 

i need to go over stuff re tg and x cause i feel like im missing something in the convos there

 

i admit that i have been focussed on tommy but i am rading and watching. But he is what stands out most to me atm so thats what im going for.

 

Bolded and underlined seemed like complete contradictions to me- if Vos is getting set up, Darthe would pretty much DEF be the one setting him up considering the wildly scummy misrep earlier

 

Dice looks somewhat townish to me based on his perseverance and exuberance regarding Tommy btw, but then after stepping up his town game recently he could have also stepped up his scum game to fake that sort of thing.

 

 

The tommy train is god tier right now and mine looks... not terrible but not great. I think some legit townies thinkim scummy this game like NB

It's bottom tier because I'm an un-CC'd mason and you are... a hooligan who must be sacrificed to the galactus

 

 

Whoa there mister. You're not a "un-CC'd mason" until someone else comes forward and says they're masons with you, and even then there's really nothing that would make it seem like there can only be one mason pair in any general setup. So yeahhhhhhhh honcho, quit acting like you're confirmed town. You aren't close. Your actions didn't seem to quite make sense from a mafia perspective earlier (the whole claiming Galactus thing), but considering my suspicions of you and TG and you trying to pass yourself off as "un-CC'd mason", yeah man you're def on my scumdar.

 

Also, I am now certain that Darthe is scum. If he's not, he sure is playing weirdly.

 

... 

 

Darthe is scummier at this point. Also, I don't think both are scum since their actions toward each other sound like distancing.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

"Distancing" is when two scummates pretend to suspect one another or something so people don't suspect them.

 

So, if you think they've been distancing from one another, then you WOULD think they are both scum.

 

Not a fos, just I don't think you knew what distancing meant.

 

Me? Being lol silly?  To fos me over something like that is in itself silly, and leads me to believe you were reaching.

 

Oh come on now. I didn't fos you for being silly, I thought you were trying to go with the crowd with the whole avi thing, and I found the fact that you twice joked about joining to be kinda suspicious, like you didn't know what kind of filler post to use so went with the same joke

 

Fwiw tho I did find your recent catchup posts to be purdy good. 

 

Ahhhh, I see.  And yes, it was interesting to see just how fast the train on you built.  I'm thinking scum's in the middle.  I don't really have a read on Dice or Dawn.  Either of them could easily be scum.

 

Rand

Darthe

Dawn

Hoof

Dice

Vos

Tina

 

Order of votes.

 

 

So wait a tic Hallia. You gave Tommy this frownie face (actually was a face iirc) for claiming Galactus, but then you say that it was interesting how fast the train on him built?

 

Why would that be interesting, considering the context? Claiming one of the main villains in a themed game will tend to attract a lot of attention... don't get why you agree with him about his train

 

Because in the Marvel Universe (which is Avengers) what HASN'T been able to be classified as third-party, or even villain, at one time or another?

 

My answer: Captain America!

 

 Actually pretty sure Cap has turned "bad" twice- in the Civil War in the comics, he was sorta on the "bad" side (the mutant freedom fighters/terrorists against registration), and in whatever you wanna call that story line, he turned into a zombie, and if I'm not mistaken was like the head zombie bad guy.

 

Not a comic book nerd btw, but when you hang around comic book stores (for MtG) that kind of thing tends to rub off on you lol

 

 

I sorta like this new version of Hallia.

 

As do I

 

No, I can't, as I do not know all roles that exist or ideas to make new roles...

Considering I once thought of making a game with 2 Town Docs just SO they would CC each other and get lynched, as well as an ALL town game (no scum at all)... Yeah, I put NOTHING past anyone with an ounce of creativity.

 

Incidentally both of those ideas have been used a few times at least- two Docs isn't even that uncommon if one is nerfed or something, and Kivam I believe ran a McCarthyism themed game that had no scum, to win town had to No Lynch twice in a row. I know of other games that had no scum, but that one is both semi-famous here and the closest to what you were prob thinking of

 

 

@ len   missedc a tommy claim?"??  Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus    multiple times.

 

 there was a twin. 

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility?  Why would anyone believe him now?

 

 

you are tunnelling terribly on him now. I feel so very secure with my vote.

 

and it is clear that the claim of twins and masons is the same thing- he implied his twin was a mason to begin with, and we all assumed as much anyway.

 

Could be tinfoiling or reaching on my part, but emphasized looks like it could have been a slip possibly- just due to Hoof using the pronoun "we". He can't be inside any other townie's head unless he himself is masons or something, so can't make that assumption about what everyone else was thinking. SO- the "we" could have been referring to scumchat ofc.

 

Hoof?

[hazelkrs1]

Alright let's go ahead and [unvote] [v]Darthe[/v]

[Lenlo]

 

Des can we get a quote as proof to show you were pmed by Red?

 

If yall want to I can, but Red already admitted to it and it wasn't really much. I think she messaged me and then I msged her back twice but she didn't read it before Day started so couldn't respond. The PM itself wasn't really incriminating, fwiw, altho the fact that she reached out to many she would normally be adversarial with did seem weird

 

Since Red came in and confirmed it its fine for now. I just wanted something else to show you werent just BSing with some alternate motive. Cant be to careful you know?

 

In other news my Philosophy professor told us a good way to prep for the themes of our class was to watch the Matrix or read Enders Game. Im looking forward to this class now, cause I love those movies/book.

[Tommyrod]

Alright let's go ahead and [unvote] [v]Darthe[/v]

Woooooo Darthe wagon is goooooo

[Blackhoof]

@Des: meh, I was just saying that no-one really openly questioned whether or not Tommy meant he was a mason with the other twin. Like, he said "I'm a twin" and talked about himself like he was a mason and others talked about him as if he was a mason and no-one had stated or wondered otherwise, since he basically confirmed that he was claiming mason anyway. Isn't that the feel you got? that the twin claim was basically and obviously (given the fluff) a mason claim as well? so it's odd that dice overlooked that.

 

also, I can't see your case on Darthe. You quote many people and darthe only once, and then decide that Darthe is scum and vote him. 

[hazelkrs1]

Actually I did forget about Tommy mentioning the "one other person knows my character" thing from earlier, that def could easily lead someone to assume mason. So never mind there, you can stay town

 

 

Irt Darthe, pretty sure I quoted more than one post... Regardless laptop is dead and I'm trying to shop for Niki's birthday present so can't make a detailed case atm.

 

In short tho, I never saw any posts from him earlier that impressed me, and since then he misrepped Vos (one of my townreads) pretty hardcore, had some more lame and bad tone posts, then role claimed somewhat early and in a weird manner.

 

Awww craps I did forget to either grab the quote or deleted it or something- but one more thing that stood out recently from Darthe is how he flip flopped regarding how his train looked.

 

First it wasn't terrible but not that good, then it was all kinds of embellished bad. Will fetch quotes later (hopefully)

[Tommyrod]

@Des: meh, I was just saying that no-one really openly questioned whether or not Tommy meant he was a mason with the other twin. Like, he said "I'm a twin" and talked about himself like he was a mason and others talked about him as if he was a mason and no-one had stated or wondered otherwise, since he basically confirmed that he was claiming mason anyway. Isn't that the feel you got? that the twin claim was basically and obviously (given the fluff) a mason claim as well? so it's odd that dice overlooked that.

 

also, I can't see your case on Darthe. You quote many people and darthe only once, and then decide that Darthe is scum and vote him.

Suspicious of the Desmeister eh?

[Darthe]

Des looks grwat in that MQ above. Also BH he didnt decide I was scum he just voted me. Id pay attention to the possibility of him being scum with Red if Red is because he didnt vote her since I wanted to (not how townies choose to vote) and yet he is voting me despite the fact that he really really thinks tommy/red are scum and they are both pushing me. Thats a direct contradiction in that MQ.

 

 

@ len missedc a tommy claim?"?? Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus multiple times.

 

there was a twin.

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility? Why would anyone believe him now?

This isn't a townie. This is scum who is fixated on an outdated point and can't be bothered (or isn't capable of) developing his reads.

Big line of BS here. Tommy trying to sell that townies dont use past info to formulate cases and thoughts? This is important for people to really contemplate. Its soooo obviously a fake argument.

[Tommyrod]

Actually I did forget about Tommy mentioning the "one other person knows my character" thing from earlier, that def could easily lead someone to assume mason. So never mind there, you can stay town

 

 

Irt Darthe, pretty sure I quoted more than one post... Regardless laptop is dead and I'm trying to shop for Niki's birthday present so can't make a detailed case atm.

 

In short tho, I never saw any posts from him earlier that impressed me, and since then he misrepped Vos (one of my townreads) pretty hardcore, had some more lame and bad tone posts, then role claimed somewhat early and in a weird manner.

 

Awww craps I did forget to either grab the quote or deleted it or something- but one more thing that stood out recently from Darthe is how he flip flopped regarding how his train looked.

 

First it wasn't terrible but not that good, then it was all kinds of embellished bad. Will fetch quotes later (hopefully)

Here's my level 0 case on Darthe:

 

I think he's trying to emulate my own scum game from Tron mafia.

 

He doesn't sound anything like his typical hyper confident conspiracy theorist self that forges scum or town leans from absurdly abstract things. He claims his despondency is due to being unliked. Maybe. But he just saw me do the same thing when I was scum. Him saying my wagon looks pristine with Dawn, Dice and Tina on it is silly. As you noted he changed the story of his own wagon's purity. His claim of generic bodyguard is pretty uninspiring.

 

In short he's particularly underwhelming and disinterested and I think it's because he's scum.

[Darthe]

How did I possibly misrep vos ever Des? I quoted something that he directly said that literally was a scum claim. He had to restructure a sentence awkwardly to even post it. Thats a clear sign of subconscious leaking into his posts and fits uber well with his aggression. Something that is oddly being equated to towniness.

[Tommyrod]

Des looks grwat in that MQ above. Also BH he didnt decide I was scum he just voted me. Id pay attention to the possibility of him being scum with Red if Red is because he didnt vote her since I wanted to (not how townies choose to vote) and yet he is voting me despite the fact that he really really thinks tommy/red are scum and they are both pushing me. Thats a direct contradiction in that MQ.

 

 

 

@ len missedc a tommy claim?"?? Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus multiple times.

 

there was a twin.

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility? Why would anyone believe him now?

This isn't a townie. This is scum who is fixated on an outdated point and can't be bothered (or isn't capable of) developing his reads.

Big line of BS here. Tommy trying to sell that townies dont use past info to formulate cases and thoughts? This is important for people to really contemplate. Its soooo obviously a fake argument.

Townies update their stances because they want to make an informed decision. Dice is not doing that. He's still going on about how I'm making joke claims so I should be lynched for it. Pathetic.

[Darthe]

Shii- How could it be a misrep at all? A direct quote and interpretation. Even someone who didnt agree with me couldnt be thick enough to convince themselves that it was misrepresentative when the player actually friggin said it.

[Tommyrod]

Darthe why do you think Dice and Dawn are town?

[keyholder21]

I am most suspicious of TG and dice right now.

 

Dice seems to keep going back to Tommy claiming, every time the thread turns to talking about something else. He did it previously when the TG/Tsuki discussion was going on. Does it again after des and BH come in talking about other things, then again yesterday after NB. Only after he brings up Tommy again does he post something about the rest of the game. Then again last page.

 

I still really don’t like TG so far in this game though. His post where he votes Tsuki and then his vote, his responses to me and others haven’t made me feel any better. He thinks Tommy was trying to manipulate the thread and that the twins are 3rd party, but is still voting for Tsuki over his bwhaha comment? (also noting that Len seems to be defending TG pretty often).

 

Darthe is a distant third, for the Vos quote chop, unwillingness to case Red until others had and oddly early claim. I have hella trouble reading him normally, though, and his lack of effort is throwing me off since I’ve never seen it from him in either alignment.

 

[v]dice[/v]

[Darthe]

 

Des looks grwat in that MQ above. Also BH he didnt decide I was scum he just voted me. Id pay attention to the possibility of him being scum with Red if Red is because he didnt vote her since I wanted to (not how townies choose to vote) and yet he is voting me despite the fact that he really really thinks tommy/red are scum and they are both pushing me. Thats a direct contradiction in that MQ.

 

 

 

@ len missedc a tommy claim?"?? Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus multiple times.

 

there was a twin.

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility? Why would anyone believe him now?

This isn't a townie. This is scum who is fixated on an outdated point and can't be bothered (or isn't capable of) developing his reads.

Big line of BS here. Tommy trying to sell that townies dont use past info to formulate cases and thoughts? This is important for people to really contemplate. Its soooo obviously a fake argument.

Townies update their stances because they want to make an informed decision. Dice is not doing that. He's still going on about how I'm making joke claims so I should be lynched for it. Pathetic.

Oh god, how dare he react like a townie when slmeone claims scum and then obfuscates by saying "it was all a joke" and claiming a practically unverifiable for D1 town PR right off the bat.

 

So much wrong with this including the fact that if you were a mason claiming D1 would be full on retarded.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Des looks grwat in that MQ above. Also BH he didnt decide I was scum he just voted me. Id pay attention to the possibility of him being scum with Red if Red is because he didnt vote her since I wanted to (not how townies choose to vote) and yet he is voting me despite the fact that he really really thinks tommy/red are scum and they are both pushing me. Thats a direct contradiction in that MQ.

 

 

 

@ len missedc a tommy claim?"?? Which one??

 

 

there was Galactus multiple times.

 

there was a twin.

 

there was a day cop view

 

now theres masons.

 

 

Somebody explain to me why after all these lies he has ANY credibility? Why would anyone believe him now?

This isn't a townie. This is scum who is fixated on an outdated point and can't be bothered (or isn't capable of) developing his reads.

Big line of BS here. Tommy trying to sell that townies dont use past info to formulate cases and thoughts? This is important for people to really contemplate. Its soooo obviously a fake argument.

Townies update their stances because they want to make an informed decision. Dice is not doing that. He's still going on about how I'm making joke claims so I should be lynched for it. Pathetic.

Oh god, how dare he react like a townie when slmeone claims scum and then obfuscates by saying "it was all a joke" and claiming a practically unverifiable for D1 town PR right off the bat.

 

So much wrong with this including the fact that if you were a mason claiming D1 would be full on retarded.

You keep saying there's "soooo" much wrong with my play. What the hell is wrong? Why do you even think I'm scum?

[Darthe]

Darthe why do you think Dice and Dawn are town?

Because im not too thick to see that them disagreeing with me doesnt equate to them being scum.

[Tommyrod]

Darthe why do you think Dice and Dawn are town?

I want an answer for this.

[Tommyrod]

 

Darthe why do you think Dice and Dawn are town?

Because im not too thick to see that them disagreeing with me doesnt equate to them being scum.

No, tell me what they've done that is pro-town.