[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Tyler Glembo]

I think Tsuki is scummy sounding town. Kinda like NotBob.

Useless comment trying to negotiate the situation.

 

Except this wasn't two people arguing. It was two people potentially catching another player in a lie (but I don't think it is anyway). His reaction, while poorly written, makes sense in a "yes, busted scum ahahahaha!" way.

 

Why are you reading Tsuki with the mindset that he is town?  Do you know he is town?  Only explanation for your behavior, which means that if your second claim after the first claim is true, then I should drop it.  But it's too late already in that case.

[Tsukibana]

 

First off, how is saying that a CC is great "popcorning"??

CC's provide GREAT info, which makes them something a townie should want to see, IMO.

 

But I like how that CC about the PMs is being swept to the side to target me. Who are you protecting?

 

How is this counterclaiming? It's not like it's impossible that Red did both.  I fail to see how this provides great info, except that Red was playing games in PMs with a few select people.

 

 

It's a counter-claim until/if Red confirms she DID send these PMs. Then we get HER input on why she felt the urge to give different lists to different people. GREAT info, like I said.

[Tsukibana]

Do you guys (tommy and Lenlo) actually want to share her reads, or not?

[Tommyrod]

 

 

I think Tsuki is scummy sounding town. Kinda like NotBob.

Useless comment trying to negotiate the situation.

Except this wasn't two people arguing. It was two people potentially catching another player in a lie (but I don't think it is anyway). His reaction, while poorly written, makes sense in a "yes, busted scum ahahahaha!" way.

Why are you reading Tsuki with the mindset that he is town? Do you know he is town? Only explanation for your behavior, which means that if your second claim after the first claim is true, then I should drop it. But it's too late already in that case.

I'm treating Tsuki as town because

 

a) he's been around all morning talking to me and pushing the fact that my character should be scum as if he found something he really believed in

 

b) I remember him as a scummy townie in past games and he sometimes has good tone

 

c) he's catching a lot of heat early, with people like Tress popping in to take jabs at him. That has me on alert.

[Tyler Glembo]

Then I don't understand popcorning - I figured you implied I was just watching, and not interacting.

I enjoy wine regardless of Role, TG. It always gives info - like the fact that you came out of nowhere to deflect all attention from the sharing of the PMs.

I ask again - who are you protecting? Red, Tommy, or Lenlo??

 

So you are so easily led around that during the last couple pages you somehow couldn't refocus to say "RED- Explain your PMs"?  I'm not stopping you from scumhunting in any way, you're stopping yourself with the immediate reaction to me.  Which is, of course, telling in and of itself.

 

 

I don't see why things need to be overly complex here. Tommy fake claimed immediately, is playing to troll and has indicated that he knows things that most likely shouldn't be known by a townie. Strikes me as a clean D1 lynch at the very least.

Your avoiding the thread.

 

 

*you're.  heh, I'm that guy.

 

I don't agree. Townies make bad posts constantly. It's how I win scum games. Your catchup post was scummier than his post to my eye. Should I be lynching you now?

 

If you find it that scummy then point out why and make a case.

[Tsukibana]

 

Then I don't understand popcorning - I figured you implied I was just watching, and not interacting.

I enjoy wine regardless of Role, TG. It always gives info - like the fact that you came out of nowhere to deflect all attention from the sharing of the PMs.

I ask again - who are you protecting? Red, Tommy, or Lenlo??

 

So you are so easily led around that during the last couple pages you somehow couldn't refocus to say "RED- Explain your PMs"?  I'm not stopping you from scumhunting in any way, you're stopping yourself with the immediate reaction to me.  Which is, of course, telling in and of itself.

 

 

BS. I have CONSTANTLY tried to get attention back to the PMs in question. Misrep much?

[Tommyrod]

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

 

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

[Tyler Glembo]

I'm treating Tsuki as town because

a) he's been around all morning talking to me and pushing the fact that my character should be scum as if he found something he really believed in

 

b) I remember him as a scummy townie in past games and he sometimes has good tone

 

c) he's catching a lot of heat early, with people like Tress popping in to take jabs at him. That has me on alert.

 

 

a) legit

 

b) weak meta is weak

 

c) that is way too simple.  If anything you should be wary of early distancing and you should be more sus of Tress than town on Tsuki.

[nervositee]

Tsuki:

 

Starts off with the strange "Nice to see AJ is here - at least we will have SOME who know how to scum hunt."-comment that has already been discussed. Several things wrong with this post. 

 

 

 

 

Second Page and red hasn't posted a WoT yet... Her phenomenal scumhunting skills must be slipping :P

 

Some strange subtle buddying with Red. 

 

Red's tone often changes when her tactic is called into question - I know she's came at me for doing it.

 

Again. 

 

 

 

Yeah? Just because I don't agree with Red's case doesn't mean that I should automatically put her as a scum read. That's elementary, dude. Like I stated previously, I had her as an early town lean because I liked how she entered the game - but since the points she's attacking irt X make me want to drop her more towards the null territory.

 

Are you saying that you had some kind of PR when you made your comment to me on pg1? I took you suggesting that you were glad I was involved because I 'know how to scum hunt' as a subliminal message of you being aware of my alignment. Hence TMI since I'm town, and townies are the ones who scum hunt.

 

 

fair point is fair.

 

Yes, I had a PR that required comments that could be construed as buddying. Please notice that it all stopped after the Aquaman post. Don't let troll mod's sense of humor point you towards me. If OTHER things are scummy, come at me, but not for this.

 

 

Says here he had a Post-Restriction saying that all he said had to be comments that could be seen as buddying? Seems strange but again everything is possible in a Mynd-game.

 

I equated "flustered" with "flailing"...

Am defending - after all, my reads are MY reads, and who cares that you disagree.

But am attacking, too - How is "you reads disagree with mine" a valid attack?

 

 

Put your vote where your mouth is...

 

[v] AJ [/v] for BS case, castles-in-the-air, and vanishing to consult his team-mates.

 

Not that happy anymore that AJ is in the game as at the beginning. 

 

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...

 

The popcorn. Its already been stated before that I see popcorning seriously. And - no joke - EVERY SINGLE GAME I'VE BEEN IN, where someone mentions popcorn or makes a point out of sitting back enjoying a fight - that person has flipped scum. It's a scumtell for sure. 

 

 

 

Dude, wha??? Popcorning? Who the hell has been in here working to solve this game?? Surely not you. And then you come in and call Darthe and Hoof scum, but you vote ME? 

Shame on you, son.

 

 

The misrep is strong with this one. 

 

I have more than one scum lean, but you popped to the top.  See what I did there?

 

 

For "popcorning" I popped to the top... *groan*

But yeah, I see what you did - you avoided committing to your stated scum reads, and instead pull one statement out of context and justify a vote on me...

Obvious distancing from "scum salad" and "creepy" is Obvious 

 

 

Worst part is how you reacted to your vote. First vote out of 13 to lynch, yet you flail like you are at L-1. 

 

Think its a very real possibility you are scum mister. 

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

[Lenlo]

Who "needlessly complicated" anything?? My statement has absolutely no impact on the veracity of your statements, nor the contradictions that are already showing up in the content of these PMS.

I wasnt referencing you I was referencing Red, and saying your reaction to it wasnt town. Neither is this imo. Your laying it on to thick and it looks like flailing to me.

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

[Tommyrod]

 

 

I'm treating Tsuki as town because

a) he's been around all morning talking to me and pushing the fact that my character should be scum as if he found something he really believed in

 

b) I remember him as a scummy townie in past games and he sometimes has good tone

 

c) he's catching a lot of heat early, with people like Tress popping in to take jabs at him. That has me on alert.

 

a) legit

 

b) weak meta is weak

 

c) that is way too simple. If anything you should be wary of early distancing and you should be more sus of Tress than town on Tsuki.

Thread flow reading is real and I'm doing it. Don't call it weak, you can feel wolfy push and pull if you keep up with the thread for a few hours. People who are popping in with one off posts like Tress and Darthe really get my goat.

[Songstress]

 

 

I think Tsuki is scummy sounding town. Kinda like NotBob.

Useless comment trying to negotiate the situation.

Except this wasn't two people arguing. It was two people potentially catching another player in a lie (but I don't think it is anyway). His reaction, while poorly written, makes sense in a "yes, busted scum ahahahaha!" way.

Why are you reading Tsuki with the mindset that he is town? Do you know he is town? Only explanation for your behavior, which means that if your second claim after the first claim is true, then I should drop it. But it's too late already in that case.

I'm treating Tsuki as town because

 

a) he's been around all morning talking to me and pushing the fact that my character should be scum as if he found something he really believed in

 

b) I remember him as a scummy townie in past games and he sometimes has good tone

 

c) he's catching a lot of heat early, with people like Tress popping in to take jabs at him. That has me on alert.

 

 

"Popping in to take jabs" at Tsuki isn't a fair characterization.  Tsuki wants commentary on the PM issue.  I put in my 2 cents, which is that I don't see it as a counterclaim issue, I see it as Red playing games behind the scenes by sending two people the same PM.  I sincerely doubt she'll say any different, and I see no reason why anyone would lie about her telling them they are her #1 town read.

 

The fact that Red sent anyone a PM during Dawn saying that she HAD town reads should be more alarming than her sending two of them.

[Tyler Glembo]

BS. I have CONSTANTLY tried to get attention back to the PMs in question. Misrep much?

 

 

Quote the posts you have done so SINCE the post where I voted you.

 

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

 

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

 

Yes it is superficial, I just speed read 50 pages and summarized my notes in a few salient points.  And I mentioned Vos because Vos reaction should be very telling about Vos' alignment.

 

As for the level of argument, your meta on me is wrong which makes your question baseless.

[Arsis]

 

 

 

 

Then I don't understand popcorning - I figured you implied I was just watching, and not interacting.

I enjoy wine regardless of Role, TG. It always gives info - like the fact that you came out of nowhere to deflect all attention from the sharing of the PMs.

I ask again - who are you protecting? Red, Tommy, or Lenlo??

So you are so easily led around that during the last couple pages you somehow couldn't refocus to say "RED- Explain your PMs"? I'm not stopping you from scumhunting in any way, you're stopping yourself with the immediate reaction to me. Which is, of course, telling in and of itself.

BS. I have CONSTANTLY tried to get attention back to the PMs in question. Misrep much?

Where? I have been following along and don't recall this point it out to me.

[Tsukibana]

Hey, Vos, I buddied you, too. Go find it. Quote:

For posting in the game thread BEFORE I said it was allowed, here is your post restriction until the end of the Dawn Phase:

You must publicly compliment five other players and tell them awesome their mafia skills are in the game thread. You may choose any five players in the game, but you must seem sincere and you must post each compliment in a separate post. 

If you fail to do this by the end of the Dawn phase, you will be modkilled. 

Have a nice day!

[Red2111]

well up to page 50 now *smh*

 

 

I'm all for jumping off at some point. But I made you a promise to vote the first person to say or in other ways indicate they were leaning back, watching town tear itself apart while eating popcorn. 

 

Well, here is to sooner than later

 

[unvote]

 

I'm super-paranoid about Tommy after he was howling his lungs out as scum in X's game, and people just let it pass. I don't see why he is trolling, nor bringing so much attention to himself is a pro-town move, but my gut says he isn't doing it as scum. I don't see the pro-town motives but certainly not the scum-motives. 

 

I don't see too much value in analyzing the Tommy-train though. Sure, scum might have seen some opportunistic possibility for a cheap mislynch there - but with the amount of troll Tommy laid out as groundwork, they might have spotted the trap and kept away while confused townies piled on. 

 

Abit annoyed this has taken so much attention now.

 

so you think Tommy is howling and use X's game to show this as a reason why he's likely scum. unvote him claiming your vote was more for joke reasons than game reasons.

 

and in the same post you claim that even though tommy is howling, its a waste to analyze his train.

 

this entire post reeks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Still not liking Tsuki so far.

 

He went pretty in depth with his probing for Tom's character info with the end assessment that they couldn't be town this game based off lore, and then quickly backs off saying that so long Tom isn't anti-town he doesn't care?? I don't see how those add up.

 

Because in the Marvel Universe (which is Avengers) what HASN'T been able to be classified as third-party, or even villain, at one time or another?

 

Cap would always be town, or at least on the side of the good guys.

 

 

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

 

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

 

go for it.

 

 

 

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

 

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

 

 

i said reads, as in plural.

 

feel free to shar what i PMd you. its not as much as i PMd tommy, but we didn't get much of a chance to talk either

 

 

She didnt even mention you in mine.

i was waiting for you to get back to it before laying all of my cards on the table. you said you were catching up on thread and i took that as to mean that you'd want to catch up before continuing to chat.

[Tommyrod]

Vos what inspired you to make the case post? Which post set you off?

[Tommyrod]

 

 

BS. I have CONSTANTLY tried to get attention back to the PMs in question. Misrep much?

 

Quote the posts you have done so SINCE the post where I voted you.

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

 

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

Yes it is superficial, I just speed read 50 pages and summarized my notes in a few salient points. And I mentioned Vos because Vos reaction should be very telling about Vos' alignment.

 

As for the level of argument, your meta on me is wrong which makes your question baseless.

What's wrong about it? Correct me.

[Lenlo]

Ah. Sorry Red, I was caught up but also deciding how I wanted to play the PM when Mynd cut them off.

Do you guys (tommy and Lenlo) actually want to share her reads, or not?

Didnt get nun. Eager much?

[nervositee]

I don't see why things need to be overly complex here.  Tommy fake claimed immediately, is playing to troll and has indicated that he knows things that most likely shouldn't be known by a townie.  Strikes me as a clean D1 lynch at the very least.  

 

I wanna agree here. Really really really. But at this point, I think all that will lead to is a bitch fight after EndGame. #howtoplayMafia

[Tommyrod]

Is everyone going against me on Tsuki??

 

I doubt I'm THAT wrong.

[Tyler Glembo]

 

Who "needlessly complicated" anything?? My statement has absolutely no impact on the veracity of your statements, nor the contradictions that are already showing up in the content of these PMS.

I wasnt referencing you I was referencing Red, and saying your reaction to it wasnt town. Neither is this imo. Your laying it on to thick and it looks like flailing to me.

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

 

Holy ish Lenlo, I thought you were me and was epic confused for a moment.  lol

 

Thread flow reading is real and I'm doing it. Don't call it weak, you can feel wolfy push and pull if you keep up with the thread for a few hours. People who are popping in with one off posts like Tress and Darthe really get my goat.

 

 

Thread flow is the best way of finding scum, IMO.  However, you stated point b as though it were a meta argument over several games, not as a thread flow statement.  You are actively recharacterizing you posts.  Scumtastic.

 

As for Tress and Darthe, why aren't you going HAM on them then?

[Tsukibana]

Random catchup musings -

 

I claim ownership of the anti-lenlo/lenlo thing.  Don't like it, send me a complaint, filed in triplicate.  It started about 3 games ago and I will continue it until the joke becomes so unfunny that it becomes funny again.

 

The PR of having to use Lenlo/Anti-Lenlo stuff is legit.  Was given to me too, but mine was somewhat diff from others it seems so I'm inclined to believe people N0. 

 

AJ looks lockclear to me so far.  Red's pushing of X is crap but Red still comes out looking townish

 

Despo looks null, but I agree (sorta) on his point about Nolder and Hoof.  However, they could still be 3rd party/recruitable/nerfed roles.

 

Tommy isn't howling wolf to me so far, but he also isn't screaming town.  If he did roll scum I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to lolcat even harder this game since he didn't get lynched for doing it last game.  He goof trap is meh.

 

Darthe looks mild scum salad, Hallia is town lean for the very early "I'm town" proclamation, and Hoof gives me the the creeps. 

 

As for the bwahaha comment, that is like popcorning on steroids.  Vos? 

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

 

First off, how is saying that a CC is great "popcorning"??

CC's provide GREAT info, which makes them something a townie should want to see, IMO.

 

But I like how that CC about the PMs is being swept to the side to target me. Who are you protecting?

 

 

Then I don't understand popcorning - I figured you implied I was just watching, and not interacting.

I enjoy wine regardless of Role, TG. It always gives info - like the fact that you came out of nowhere to deflect all attention from the sharing of the PMs.

I ask again - who are you protecting? Red, Tommy, or Lenlo??

 

 

 

 

First off, how is saying that a CC is great "popcorning"??

CC's provide GREAT info, which makes them something a townie should want to see, IMO.

 

But I like how that CC about the PMs is being swept to the side to target me. Who are you protecting?

 

How is this counterclaiming? It's not like it's impossible that Red did both.  I fail to see how this provides great info, except that Red was playing games in PMs with a few select people.

 

 

It's a counter-claim until/if Red confirms she DID send these PMs. Then we get HER input on why she felt the urge to give different lists to different people. GREAT info, like I said.

 

 

 

Do you guys (tommy and Lenlo) actually want to share her reads, or not?

 

There... the times I mentioned the PMs since your vote. Last one is kind of blatant, huh??

[Lenlo]

 

 

Who "needlessly complicated" anything?? My statement has absolutely no impact on the veracity of your statements, nor the contradictions that are already showing up in the content of these PMS.

I wasnt referencing you I was referencing Red, and saying your reaction to it wasnt town. Neither is this imo. Your laying it on to thick and it looks like flailing to me.

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

 

Holy ish Lenlo, I thought you were me and was epic confused for a moment.  lol

 

WE ARE ONE!

 

Tsuki really looks to be laying it on thick here imo.

[Tyler Glembo]

The only one that counts are the last one.  The first two are directed at me as attacks, the third at Tress as a defensive post.