[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

I'll vote Dawn or let it go random.

Are you caught up?

 

If so, can you explain why AJ would refuse to play to his purported Town win condition?

 

I can't vote Dawn, regardless, but the reason I stopped pushing for a Dawn lynch is 100% because AJ refuses to give up the #1 slot. His "reasons" aren't real or game related. The only thing I can come up with is that he is trying to protect Dawn. As her symbiote maybe he'll take the shot instead and allow her to recruit again? Maybe his power is to stop a lynch he leads? I don't know but something is off there.

 

 

Have no idea...maybe he just wants some action...a power for leading a lynch...who knows.

 

My main argument is we need to kill anything with a possibility of recruitment.  Right Dawn admits she's third party who could recruit but no longer can.  I do not trust.  If it was me I'd fight long and hard to continue to recruit.  The rest is just conjecture on the town's part.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

I'll vote Dawn or let it go random.

Are you caught up?

 

If so, can you explain why AJ would refuse to play to his purported Town win condition?

 

I can't vote Dawn, regardless, but the reason I stopped pushing for a Dawn lynch is 100% because AJ refuses to give up the #1 slot. His "reasons" aren't real or game related. The only thing I can come up with is that he is trying to protect Dawn. As her symbiote maybe he'll take the shot instead and allow her to recruit again? Maybe his power is to stop a lynch he leads? I don't know but something is off there.

 

 

In your position...I'd vote Xthrax over AJ...just my two cents...

[Tyler Glembo]

 

 

I'll vote Dawn or let it go random.

Are you caught up?

 

If so, can you explain why AJ would refuse to play to his purported Town win condition?

 

I can't vote Dawn, regardless, but the reason I stopped pushing for a Dawn lynch is 100% because AJ refuses to give up the #1 slot. His "reasons" aren't real or game related. The only thing I can come up with is that he is trying to protect Dawn. As her symbiote maybe he'll take the shot instead and allow her to recruit again? Maybe his power is to stop a lynch he leads? I don't know but something is off there.

 

 

Have no idea...maybe he just wants some action...a power for leading a lynch...who knows.

 

My main argument is we need to kill anything with a possibility of recruitment.  Right Dawn admits she's third party who could recruit but no longer can.  I do not trust.  If it was me I'd fight long and hard to continue to recruit.  The rest is just conjecture on the town's part.

 

 

So we coordinate the people on a lynch to be the same and use Halli's ability again.  Should tell us if the number of threats changed or not.

[Tommyrod]

NotBob you have wounded my pride and sullied your honor on this day

 

But seriously it's pretty straightforward to me. Don't know how else to interpret post 45.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Might want to re-read that sparky.

Also, can you do us all a favor and explain the relationship between you and Tommy and anyone else in your happy little neighborhood? I'd like to have a better understanding of how all of you are vetting each other. Thanks.

 

 

We are twins.  We are hero aligned and our alignment cannot change.  As Tommy stated, he was jailed by Nolder and had a QT with him.  I am not connected to the details of the conversation except that which he has explained on thread.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

NotBob you have wounded my pride and sullied your honor on this day

 

But seriously it's pretty straightforward to me. Don't know how else to interpret post 45.

 

See Mynd's quote on post 79.

 

"Do not let pride be the downfall of mankind"

[Tommyrod]

 

 

NotBob you have wounded my pride and sullied your honor on this day

 

But seriously it's pretty straightforward to me. Don't know how else to interpret post 45.

See Mynd's quote on post 79.

 

"Do not let pride be the downfall of mankind"

Hmmm.

 

Fine.

[Nolder]

SRSLY 

 

I'm really busy today and I don't know when I'm going to be able to check in on the game again until later this week.

Someone needs to tell me what's going on. Anyone of: Darthe, Key, Yates, Tommy, Notbob, Songstress, Hallia. I trust all of you, if one of you says vote X or vote Dawn or whatever I'm going to do that and probably be gone until Friday.

 

 

Tom your eyelashes are superduper.

[keyholder21]

 

I seriously don't know where to vote. Like nolder said, cult could end up being massive problem if she lied about her recruitment capabilities and I get twitchy considering not lynching a guilty cop view. But she's not Galactus. Or Ultron. Unless she could turn into Galactus if she recruits enough? But idk if that would make sense.

I'd argue not to over think. We can only lynch one threat each day.

 

I know. But it’s still a weird situation re: AJ.

 

Okay, if we lynch Dawn, then she will almost likely die, bringing down her and possibly her recruit.

 

If she doesn’t die, then we can rather safely assume some kind of shenanigans with AJ due to his lack of moving his vote. If her PM was true about them being interlinked, they could die by vig tonight or be the lynch tomorrow.

 

If we lynch AJ and he’s her symbiote, then she probably dies anyway, right?

 

If he’s scum, then that’s a good place to start regarding both the list and the people that he’s talked about/interacted with. Does leave dawn open for another possible recruitment, but maybe she talked about them all being linked, so maybe they would die with her anyway?

 

If he’s town, that sucks and I have no idea why he would play that way. Only consolation here, I guess, would be that if he doesn’t like how the game is being played/allowed to play, then it’s not likely that he would help solve it in the future. Would also be another person off the darthe train list.

 

So we coordinate the people on a lynch to be the same and use Halli's ability again. Should tell us if the number of threats changed or not.

I thought this was already decided anyway?

[Yates]

In your position...I'd vote Xthrax over AJ...just my two cents...

Why X over AJ? I feel like X actually has a BETTER chance of being Town at this point than AJ. I will concede that what I view as "dumb play" often makes me think "scum play" instead.

 

My main argument is we need to kill anything with a possibility of recruitment.

While I agree with you, as you have seen in thread, have you considered that we won't be able to lynch Dawn while AJ is on the wagon? OR that AJ being on the wagon could cause a reflexive kill on someone like - say - the hammer? These are my concerns with the Dawn play. Everything with that is a mess and could be entirely cleaned up if AJ would simply unvote.

 

Have no idea...maybe he just wants some action...a power for leading a lynch...who knows.

He claims to have a "motivator" ability. However, he also says in the same post that he has no interest in allowing Darthe his protection ability because it makes Town over powered. Contextually he is saying that he believes Darthe, thinks Darthe is Town, thinks Darthe is critical to our success, but thinks Darthe should be left vulnerable to a night kill to be fair to the scum?? Does that sound in any way shape or form like a Town mind set? Even if you had an ideological argument with how the game is set up I feel like that's something you'd bring up after the game and tease mod about mercilessly from a balance standpoint.

 

Are you following me, here?

[nervositee]

 

 

 

I forgot that Rand is scum. Screw him too.

You're not reading the thread now, or do you lock-clear everyone else but when I present a clear you ignore it.

 

Rand is hero, outright confirmed.

How did you confirm him again?

She claims cop.

 

 

*he

 

 

 

Cropped:

 

 

 

1 - Nifty. What, all the town roles are out in the open now? I visited Rand and I can confirm he is Hero aligned. It also means that unless there are TWO cops in this game, the read on Dawn came from something else, not a cop, just to make that clear. 

 

 

 

 

Give your role.  Give the result.  The rest just allows you to fill in the blanks later and I no likey.

 

 

If you didn't manage to read the sentence and see I claimed COP with a HERO alignment RESULT when visiting RAND then I don't know how to get through to you. 

[Yates]

Yes. I like Key's post above. This is why AJ needs to be today's lynch choice.

[Yates]

We are twins.  We are hero aligned and our alignment cannot change.

Did it say this in your role PM or is this something Mynd told you later?

[keyholder21]

SRSLY 

 

I'm really busy today and I don't know when I'm going to be able to check in on the game again until later this week.

Someone needs to tell me what's going on. Anyone of: Darthe, Key, Yates, Tommy, Notbob, Songstress, Hallia. I trust all of you, if one of you says vote X or vote Dawn or whatever I'm going to do that and probably be gone until Friday.

It's more between Dawn and AJ at this point, though X and Hoof have both been mentioned too.

 

The problem is that there is a good argument for both, though I personally think AJ makes more sense. Possible recruitment is the only holdup.

[keyholder21]

to clarify: I meant hold up in my decision. Not voting right now, because darthe needs to get in here and vote so he can have his protection ability.

[Nolder]

Ok thanks.

I think we should err on the side of caution with cult.

If it goes unchecked we start to lose all our good roles.

Those are powers we're going to need to fight Galactus and/or Ultron.

 

[v]Dawn[/v]

 

 

Key you have a nice complexion.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

NotBob you have wounded my pride and sullied your honor on this day

 

But seriously it's pretty straightforward to me. Don't know how else to interpret post 45.

See Mynd's quote on post 79.

 

"Do not let pride be the downfall of mankind"

Hmmm.

 

Fine.

 

 

Love you like a brother...sorry about the frustration words...I see where it can be inferred like that...just not sure I want to chance it.

 

Agree to disagree.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

@ Yates and Key,

 

Good words of caution...still not sure what the correlation is with AJ in the lead position of a Dawn's lynch...I could possibly switch from Dawn to AJ or Xthrax...but Dawn confirmed she was symbiote and then Songstress caught her in a lie and I'm not sure I want that...if AJ is her recruit...then yes that road may be problematic...I'll trust the town to decide.

 

I prefer Dawn but can move to AJ or Xthrax to secure a lynch.

[Yates]

The problem is that there is a good argument for both, though I personally think AJ makes more sense. Possible recruitment is the only holdup.

Another reason I'm feeling AJ more is because admittedly the problem with a Dawn lynch - for those of you that are all "INFORMATION!" - is that it nets us scum but tells us nothing about the wagon due to the fact she's outed. An AJ lynch forces people to make decisions. An AJ scum flip would tell us a TON since I don't think many scum will bus. If you are the only non-cleared person on a scum lynch and it's confirmed that there's only one scum on the wagon? We just nailed more scum. That's something scum will have to weigh as they decide to bus or not to bus. And of course if no scum join the wagon then we get more lock clears.

 

This is fun to think about, actually. I'm enjoying these mechanics.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

We are twins.  We are hero aligned and our alignment cannot change.

Did it say this in your role PM or is this something Mynd told you later?

 

 

Mynd's PM to me stated Alignment: Hero.  On the QT he confirmed our Hero alignment and this would not change.

[Yates]

Sorry - that should read that it "nets us non-Hero" - not "scum."

[Yates]

Mynd's PM to me stated Alignment: Hero.  On the QT he confirmed our Hero alignment and this would not change.

Okay. That aligns with what Tommy said. Also, this came later in the day, yes? Like - after "dawn?"

 

The reason I ask is because we can use that to help weigh the potential negative effects of not lynching Dawn immediately. It's conceivable that she was telling the truth and can only recruit once - which would make that statement from the mod true.

[Arsis]

I'd vote dawn right now but I don't want to hammer. What's the vc?

[Yates]

...still not sure what the correlation is with AJ in the lead position of a Dawn's lynch...

Then you are in the same boat as the rest of us, brother.

 

You would think Town!AJ wouldn't care if he was in the 1st position or not. Others with a claimed 1st position ability didn't seem to mind. So it is highly suspicious when AJ takes the 1st position and refuses to give it up without stating a reason that helps him play to his win condition. That's the correlation in my mind. AJ is tying his fate to Dawn's. He then outright taunts us, which is seldom the right play. But that's just the cherry on the cake.

[Yates]

I'd vote dawn right now but I don't want to hammer. What's the vc?

We are changing the target to AJ since AJ seems hellbent on protecting Dawn.