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Posted

Cory, if this was VS, you'd be close to breaking MAMA right now. Please stahp with the dejected demotivated posts.

 

If it's genuine, then w/e, I understand. We all lose motivation from time to time. Just suck it up and power through it.

 

Continuing to essentially do nothing as far as defending yourself besides whining about this forum, or that people have suspected you this game, will seriously make me lose respect for you as a player. You're better than this.

Posted

Cory you're making me wish Darthe had subbed in you for this game.

 

:darkone:

 

Asked csarmi to replace me Day 2, he said no because I had no real problems and he wanted to save his sub in case anyone really needed to be subbed out

 

Which I respect

 

I mean, I've read the thread. I have some decent stabs at Mafia - I think you are right on BFG, at least

 

Would still be very surprised if AJ were Mafia

 

And I don't need to win with town so how am I breaking MAMA? I don't have to do anything

Posted

Think of it this way: at some point in this game I decided I no longer really wanted to help town because I was sick of being sniped

My WC doesn't say "help town"

I don't have to do it anymore

Posted

But still, went we had that run-up on Pral Day 1 he was my top Mafia lean

 

When we lynched Hallia I really thought she'd flip Mafia

 

I was pretty surprised Leelou was shot

 

So ???

I gave a pretty decent effort this whole game, I still have like 250+ more game relevant posts than any other player, and I've tried to make my thought process as obvious as possible

 

So, IDK, suck it? suck it.

Posted

If you're a Survivor and not fighting your lynch, you're not playing for your wincon.

 

But w/e, I'm over it. I made several requests for the AtE to stop, to no avail. Parking my vote and def gotta say I'm disappointed bro.

Posted

Continuing to essentially do nothing as far as defending yourself besides whining about this forum, or that people have suspected you this game, will seriously make me lose respect for you as a player. You're better than this.

 

I still don't understand what I need to defend myself from

 

People are suspicious because I haven't been right, from what I see. I guess I'm elevated to #Tommy level but Tommy is legit a better player than I am so shrug as to what I'm supposed to pull out of a hat here

 

Verb argued about AJ Day 1, I elaborated and I still think I was right

 

You and me argued about Thane for awhile, I was right. We also argued about Leelou - I was also right, even though I doubted myself later - so whatever #stillGOATtownreads

 

I think Verb is arguing I flipped on Tina but he quoted a post where I was mentioning Leelou's reads from my notepad in case of a Leelou scum flip. Tina hasn't been great since early Day 1 and I might have been thrown off by her quoting things

 

I wanted to clear her later for continuing to recklessly come after me but at this point I've started to realize I have actually been a mislynch candidate this game to Mafia so that's out the window

 

My mafia leans (Hallia, Leelou around Day 2) have been wrong - sigh shrug tears I'll get over it

Posted

If you're a Survivor and not fighting your lynch, you're not playing for your wincon.

 

But w/e, I'm over it. I made several requests for the AtE to stop, to no avail. Parking my vote and def gotta say I'm disappointed bro.

 

I have always been playing for my wincon. Town will lynch me because #YOLO but it's just going to be another phase where the Mafia gets away scot-free, that's town's decision

 

I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever stop playing emotively. If you sincerly think AtE is a reliable universal scumtell that's on you, not me.

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I am considering a decent villager elsewhere because I can make myself transparent enough to A) gather a following to lead B) display sincerity in tone and C) clearly display my thought process

 

You can say I'm a bad villager for playing this way, but I have had a very good deal of success when I don't get distracted by LoganAuras

 

If you think I'm AtEing as a defense, you don't realize that I just sort of say what's on my mind.

 

What else is there for me to do?

Posted

Des I am like 100% calm and rational right now, just sort of saying what is on my mind

 

I'm not mad or anything

Maybe disappointed, but I'll get over it

Posted

Cory a lot more points have been brought against you besides you being wrong. You oversimplifying points against you is yet another mark against you.

 

As for AtE not being a 100% reliable scumtell, yeah no doy. Funny thing tho- a 100% reliable universal scumtell pretty much DOESN'T EXIST. In my book, YES, AtE is a scumtell. Because scum often know that trying to use logic or reason won't help them out that much if their actions have been objectively scummy, so instead they defend themselves by turning the thread into cancer. Dropping AtE all over the place does exactly that- it creates a pile of wifom instead of a back and forth of logical, coherent arguments.

 

Lastly Cory, just answer this: do you care if you're lynched or not?

Posted

Show me those points and I'll debate them, but most of it was that I was super open with my reads Day 1 (don't really know how to defend myself), that I have been "too emotional' this game (yup sure welcome to me), and that I haven't been right

Day 1 I got mad at you about the Thane thing and you sniping me (because as Mafia I would clearly blow up @ you for voting a townread I put a lot of effort - including reading two other Day 1s he's had - into reading because he's certified lynchbait it most games) which is funny now that Thane is basically confirmed town and that my Day 1 townreads were, as usual, really good unless I'm somehow wrong on AJ

 

I'd prefer not to be lynched, but the points for lynching me are ethereal fake meta (this is how cory acts as a wolf!) stuff. I really don't know how to debate that, most of the "casing" done on me is hot air.

 

If you could point out something I have done that is actually wolfy that would be awesome.

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Pral, for example, basically just lied about my meta, using Real Genius as an example, at the beginning of this phase.

I was totally in control of Real Genius and I had super confident fake wolfreads and all that garbage but he GOATshot me. There really can't be a more dissimilar game for me than Real Genius, it was pretty lol for him to bring it up in the first place

(And then he used Twilight as an example of my WIM town game, where I died N1 before I really ever did anything but lead a lynch on villager Jack_D)

 

What is there to debate there?

Posted

You haven't done much actual #work this game. You've been reactive all game, never proactive.

 

Don't respond with blahblah demotivated blah, just actually put in #work.

 

As for the emo thing, I buy that you're an emotive player, I just think you've been using that as a crutch this game. You've stated over and over how you're more likely to emo out as town. Why would notscum!Cory use the "I'm always emo" defense so much, instead of just GOATing out instead of emoing for a while? Seriously tho, you really have been emo most of the game.

 

I'd also bring up your claim and how you've acted about it. Like I said, you went from "RAGE! Thunderdome with me and Des!!!" to "jking" to "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M ARTHUR DENT!!!" to "meh, lynch away" to "if you lynch me, town has 0% chance of winning" back to "meh, lynch away". It seems you've just gone emo or meh according to the situation, seems like you've just been hiding behind emo and your character claim FAR too much this game

Posted

Votecount 3.01
 

Lazy: 2 - Thane, AJ

Cory: 2 - Pralaya, Despo

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

 

Not voting: Vos, Dice, RTE, Tina, Verbal, Lazy, Cory, BFG

 

Posted

i'm supposed to be defending myself right

 

 

As for Tina, I read her town Day 1 but since she's done a concrete mix of things and I am not confident in her either way. Sometimes she does something villagery and I want to clear her again (her being combatative with me D2 is usually a good sign for someone's alignment) but she's also been nowhere near as open as she usually as is town

 

Which really bothers me because I can usually read her pretty confidently but barring a few things she's been super slippery for me since after she stopped doing Marvin quotes

 

You said she was likely town on D2.  I don't see anything in your D2 posts to suggest you were starting to move her from your town pile, which you've had her in since early D1.  Like, really early on D1.

 

 

 

And your character are? 

 

I find it strange that you believed Cory´s character claim (who one could assume would be a PR) and still voted him. 

 

 

Tina you are weirding me out

 

 

Maybe halfway through Day 1 now, from the hip:

Thane [stopped reading Thane after his claim today, just putting him in blue and moving on]

Des [Day 2 bias inserted - doubt Des would tie himself to a role he isn't as Mafia ever as that could out him later, so I would say he's 99% tracker. If he was scum tracker their faction would know Dice is telling the truth, I highly doubt his ability would be used to track Dice with unknown PRs still looming]

AJ

 

Tina [Worth nothing that from memory she does not become obvious after her initial villageriness, this read probably going to change eventually but through 30 she's here)

BFG
Lazy

 

Leelou

RTE

Mish

Verbal
 

Pral

Dice

Hallia

 

 

HERO CALLING IT:

 

Entirety of Mafia is in Hallia/Leelou/BFG/Tina/Vos

 

Outside chance of RTE uh-oh bus

 

 

I have five days off work and of course I got a cold and a sore throat. Some people can´t eat when they are sick but I get so hungry. I have laid in bed dreaming about steak and bbq sauce, pizza and Ben&Jerry´s Strawberry Cheesecake Icecream. The only thing I found in my fridge (that took less than five minutes to cook) was a pizza slice. When I took it out of the microwave I dropped it. Luckily it ended up on the plate but the filling ended up under the pizza. Sigh. I´m still hungry. Yes, you should feel sorry for me. :D Luckily I had a good book to read but now I have finished it. Sigh. 

 

Anyway. I don´t think we are going anywhere right now. I´ll hammer Hallia.

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Hallia [/v]

 

 

Tina: What do you think she'll flip?

 

so i unno what to tell you Verb

Posted

You haven't done much actual #work this game. You've been reactive all game, never proactive.

 

Don't respond with blahblah demotivated blah, just actually put in #work.

 

As for the emo thing, I buy that you're an emotive player, I just think you've been using that as a crutch this game. You've stated over and over how you're more likely to emo out as town. Why would notscum!Cory use the "I'm always emo" defense so much, instead of just GOATing out instead of emoing for a while? Seriously tho, you really have been emo most of the game.

 

I'd also bring up your claim and how you've acted about it. Like I said, you went from "RAGE! Thunderdome with me and Des!!!" to "jking" to "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M ARTHUR DENT!!!" to "meh, lynch away" to "if you lynch me, town has 0% chance of winning" back to "meh, lynch away". It seems you've just gone emo or meh according to the situation, seems like you've just been hiding behind emo and your character claim FAR too much this game

 

I have like 500 posts and have commented on anything and reread the entire thread with my notepad and given thoughts on every turn

 

Yeah, I haven't been super enthusiastic

 

But I'm not super confident in any wolves and I don't just lead YOLO lynches?

 

I don't know what you expect from me

I've done more work than you.

Posted

Actually if you are a villager you can take that as a legit GFY

I spent a lot of time on this game Day 1 and Day 2 and I get deflated when I'm wrong but I still reread constantly and tried to piece things together

 

Don't you dare tell me I haven't done #werk

I cleared like 4-5 villagers Day 1

 

I'm baring my soul

 

What the hell

Posted

okay, actually rustled now

 

thumbs up

 

i have not had a strong game but you of all people should not be shoving a lack of work at me, i put a lot of effort into this game despite having a manic work schedule and working about 115 hours the last two weeks despite the holiday weekend

 

that's just legit bad

 

would be wolfy if you weren't probably town tracker

Posted

Here's what little I had before I revert back to laptop:

 

 

Thank God Len is not in this game or he would be totally confused between Nyn and Leelou.

He would have etched in his mind that Nyn likes Spiderman and Matt Damon

 

:laugh:

 

 

 

scum, can you please target me tonight to put an end my misery? Thanks!



Nyn


Why aren't you an obvious villager yet???

:(

 

 

Because I'm annoyed.

 

 

 

Nyn

 

 

:mellow:

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea. Now lynching other dudes? THAT I can get behind.


I think I know where this is going!

 

 

watido

 

You GOATown this game?

 

[x] Yes, don't lynch me.

[x] No, don't lynch me.

[x] Monk.

 

 

you'll know i'm mafia if i listen to someone else lynch you for lulz

 

Clov = FishStix

 

amirite?

 

do you like fishsticks?

 

 

I don't like how Cory responds to Clov's question so strangely, and in a MQ with other fluff posts

 

I don't think Verb's tone is really off.

 

Leelou/Tina votes interest me, so does Tina with her quotes.

 

I noticed the same Pral post you quoted with the :blink: face, seemed sort of out of sync.

 

Cory looks good. Biggest schtick claim made me LOL

 

BFG seems pretty relaxed. I've completely failed reading her the last few games we've been in together though, so not putting a ton of value in that at first glance.

 

Interested to hear what you gotta say about FishDyx though.

 

Didn't like this "general impressions" post from AJ since it echoed what he thought my thoughts were about Pray... looked like him trying to buddy my reads. This is supported with his final note about hearing what I have to say about Clovfish. Also associative based on his quick read of Cory, and kinda fence-sitting read on BFG, two people who I find very likely to be scum at this point.

 

 

 

from the hip, not enough that i feel the need to reread ATM

 

no wolves yet, but i got a handful of villagers

 

Andrej
Tina

BFG
Thane

Leelou 

 

everyone else is varying degrees of null i don't feel like arbitrarily sorting out

 

i guess if there's any onus of pressure it would be on Nyn, Verb, Des and Clov as they have enough content and they haven't hit the villager list but a lot of people haven't said much of anything yet so I'm a couple miles away from a vote

 

I will eventually read Clov's soul but he hasn't been too visible yet

 

Where's the Andre read coming from, and to a lesser degree, BFG and Thane?  You said Tina and Leelou were had an increased chance of town after their voting, but I haven't seen anything that really makes me feel confident in anybody's chances to be town so fa

 

Just trust me as being the GOAT townreader and things you don't believe in like TOAN

 

It's hard to elaborate, I guess

AJ is the type of player I think I can read very quickly when he's a villager. We have similar thought process and he has intent to rock the boat IMO - I think he will get more obvious to you all as the game goes on but I've already seen enough

 

Thane I have only seen as Mafia and he seems more relaxed

 

BFG a couple of things, but I really liked her conversation with AJ

 

 

Extremely vague reasoning after being asked to preach on his reads by Clov.

 

Leelou seem interested in figuring things out, which is something I didn't see at all in her scum game - she was more reactionary

Tina being willing to draw potentially negative attention to herself early is her biggest towntell imo, she's another player I think I can read very well. I misread her in.... Mass Effect? and took a little more time to look over her games awhile ago and I think I understand the way she thinks pretty well

 

And I still don't like this post. To me it looks like scum trying to backpedal and pretend they had more to say someone is town than they really had.

 

Up to this point, Leelou seriously was NOT interested in figuring things out, at least not from my perspective.

 

I also didn't see how Tina was willing to draw negative attention to herself early on.

 

Both of these statements of support for early town reads look trumped up imo.

 

In fact, I'd say that Tina prob has a good chance of being scum with Cory, mebbe even greater chance than AJ. My scum read of BFG is pretty much independant of Cory, but he had some early interaction with her that looked weird.

 

Okay, back to laptop.

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