[Advanced/Experimental] No Roles Disney Game - Game Over - Town Wins!

[Tyler Glembo]

Pral: I'm not pushing it. I simply gave the result from the trigger you hit.

 

Why aren't you pushing it?  You got a guilty view, shouldn't you follow it up by trying to examine gameplay and see if it jives with your viewing?

 

Mafia Wavefunction Collapse.  Brilliant.

 

 

If we ever meet in person I'm buying you a beer for this comment alone.

[Pralaya]

I never said they were low, I said they are limited to points they can get. Could be high, could be lower now with Darthe gone. You are the one that seems to be posting with intimate scum knowledge and is using Darthe's wifom ramblings. 

 

You contradicted my point that wasting a day would be of low risk, which assumes that they do not have enough points for a lot of NKs.

Basically if you are not sure, how would "testing a flip" work? I know I am town and that is why I don't think it is a good idea.

[Kaylee]

 

Why aren't you pushing it? You got a guilty view, shouldn't you follow it up by trying to examine gameplay and see if it jives with your viewing?

Because I need to go back through his posts to see that. Also, it is possible the view was messed with. You seem so sure it wasn't.

[Leelou]

 

I never said they were low, I said they are limited to points they can get. Could be high, could be lower now with Darthe gone. You are the one that seems to be posting with intimate scum knowledge and is using Darthe's wifom ramblings. 

 

You contradicted my point that wasting a day would be of low risk, which assumes that they do not have enough points for a lot of NKs.

Basically if you are not sure, how would "testing a flip" work? I know I am town and that is why I don't think it is a good idea.

 

 

Because none of your posts have assured me you are town. 

[Pralaya]

I hardly have enough posts. I have not been able to contribute because of the factors I mentioned yesterday. 

 

You did mention one post where you found me suspicious .... which I don't agree because it was a genuine concern I was expressing. I don't see your point.

[michellem]

 

That is all.

[Leelou]

I hardly have enough posts. I have not been able to contribute because of the factors I mentioned yesterday. 

 

You did mention one post where you found me suspicious .... which I don't agree because it was a genuine concern I was expressing. I don't see your point.

 

What exactly is stopping you to scum hunting through the middle of the night and trying to get points if that is when you can participate? 

[Leelou]

 

I hardly have enough posts. I have not been able to contribute because of the factors I mentioned yesterday. 

 

You did mention one post where you found me suspicious .... which I don't agree because it was a genuine concern I was expressing. I don't see your point.

 

What exactly is stopping you to scum hunting through the middle of the night and trying to get points if that is when you can participate? 

 

 

All you said was that everything had been discussed, which it hasn't. And even if it has, what is stopping you from delving into it and posting your thoughts? 

[Pralaya]

That is how it is. I usually reread completely and the pick points to comment on.

In this case, when I am rereading and thinking of something to point out, I usually see it mentioned by someone else later on. 

 

It happened with the Krak read too. I was thinking he was lurking and about to post my thoughts on it when I saw you with the exact same vote on him. Mostly everything has been covered.

 

Besides, it was a point in my rant. Not on my thoughts or reads. 

[Leelou]

That is how it is. I usually reread completely and the pick points to comment on.

In this case, when I am rereading and thinking of something to point out, I usually see it mentioned by someone else later on. 

 

It happened with the Krak read too. I was thinking he was lurking and about to post my thoughts on it when I saw you with the exact same vote on him. Mostly everything has been covered.

 

Besides, it was a point in my rant. Not on my thoughts or reads. 

 

It's a point on your rant because you aren't giving us anything. And you are using what Darthe said to try to push how scum works. Why on earth would you believe anything he said? He was trying to get points and further his agenda. 

[Verbal32]

N1 had a NK which was most probably done by Darthe. There was nothing on N2, the sands could have been used by another scum.

Other than that I don't see scum having spent major points so far. 

 

How do you know scum are having low points? Is that an assumption? 

 

I think we vetted some of the larger point getters, so yeah.....that isn't a poor assumption to make.

 

 

 

 

And now, I'm off for the night. See y'all in the morning (or noonish.)

 

Thank you. 

 

So, with town coordination, we can buy a bunch of spy glasses and at night NO TOWNIES DO ANYTHING BUT USE THE SPYGLASSES.  Then if anybody goes anywhere at all.  BAM!  Mafia.

 

 

So mafia can holster and accumulate more points to try for a big wipeout of major townies?  No thanks. 

[michellem]

Got the result on my pxie dust on Wombat, is town. Waiting on TG's.

[Kaylee]

Pral's early comments are about liking AJ's mass claim idea; doesn't like Vos elaborately explaining that it was because Darthe was prompting him, but Vos's tone was like he was "being intentionally defensive". (Not too much there basically he doesn't like Vos but does like AJ. Something about the wording of the "intentionally defensive" seems off to me. I understand the defensive part, can't explain it.)

 

He comments on Darthe point-whoring and that he doesn't like it, but it could be town hunting. (Hmm seems like he's either unsure of Darthe or just doesn't want to take a stand on him.)

 

He then agrees with Vos about the character talk being distracting and isn't a fan of Lenlo pushing the character talk along.

 

Later a comment about how this game completely contradicts his playstyle and that he has 0 points due to Day starting/ending while he's asleep. 

 

(When Len points out that he can earn points at night by posting he responds with the following): "Yeah, well, it isn't that easy when all I have to do are catch-up posts. I mean, how many can I post when everything's already been discussed?" (Lee points out that not everything has been discussed. I mean really? Why not comment on what's been going on and add his thoughts, even if some of it has been discussed?)

 

Mish makes comments about someone sending Darthe a poison apple and Pral's response: "I am pretty sure he would have ended the night too by now.

He is after all Scrooge McDuck swimming in his points." (Stands out to me. Seems like "naw there's no point. I'm sure he's ended the night already.")

 

Then this: 

Misheru, on 15 May 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

Well his points are not endless.
 
Some townie with alot of points need to put a silencer on him.

(Pral's response): Even in that case, he doesn't need to be the person to use the item. (It's like he defending Darthe. Like saying "Well no need to silence him, his teammates can still use the points." So we shouldn't even try to stop him?)

 

(Then the whole "Nobody has vetted me yet" like he wanted to. I view him and get a mafia response. He says he doesn't know how I got that result and says my result could've been messed with pointing out the time difference between when I asked him and when he responded. He since then pushes that he has low points for the reasons he already stated. To me that doesn't mean much because I earned a decent amount of point on N2 even though it was quick. Enough that I bought an item anyway. To me that's not  valid excuse. Post thoughts at night and earn points then. Like you're doing now.)

 

 

Summary: He liked AJ (who died and flipped town); doesn't like Vos (who flipped town); doesn't like Len (I didn't see anything that said differently); and he doesn't make a stance on Darthe (yes he voted Darthe, but didn't really say anything besides what was pointed out above.) Not a lot of reads other than the vote and comment on Krak with saying he saw and agreed with points that others have made on him. 

 

That's the sum of his reads. Not a lot of stands. Not seeing a lot that convinced me that he's town tbh. As town he makes cases or at least comments on ones others have made. I'm not seeing that here.

 

 

[Kaylee]

 

I hardly have enough posts. I have not been able to contribute because of the factors I mentioned yesterday. 

 

You did mention one post where you found me suspicious .... which I don't agree because it was a genuine concern I was expressing. I don't see your point.

 

What exactly is stopping you to scum hunting through the middle of the night and trying to get points if that is when you can participate? 

 

Exactly! Definitely getting a good vibe from Lee. I like her challenging what she doesn't agree with.

 

 

 

 

It's a point on your rant because you aren't giving us anything. And you are using what Darthe said to try to push how scum works. Why on earth would you believe anything he said? He was trying to get points and further his agenda. 

 

Another good point.

[Leelou]

TG is starting to stink. 

[Kaylee]

Thanks Lee, that's who else I was going to take a look at. Something about TG has been bugging me. Need to ISO him to see what that was.

[Verbal32]

TG is starting to stink. 

 

Called it.

 

 

 

 

hehehehe

[Leelou]

 

TG is starting to stink. 

 

Called it.

 

 

 

 

hehehehe

 

 

Yes, dear. Good for you. 

 

*pats Verbal on the head and gives him a cookie* 

[Verbal32]

-_-

[Leelou]

 

[Kaylee]

The first stance I see TG make is that Len is town (from pixie dust result) and he votes Darthe. Then there's his giving Darthe and his team ideas. (At night or otherwise not a good idea. Even with knowing how to counter each move, still not a good idea. Do you know when they'll use them to make the counter moves mean anything?)

 

He says he'll "hobble together" a case against me showing why he thinks I'm scum. (He hasn't yet.)

 

He has a town read on Lee from her interactions with Darthe. (I can't remember what they are.) 

 

He says he called Pral being scum when I said Pral hit my trigger and came back as scum. 

 

Later he says he's been vetted my me. (This part was explained, but I only gave one hint so not sure what to think about it. I can honestly see how he thought that, but then I wouldn've said "TG is __________".)

 

Then there's this post: "GUYS!  New plan!

 

We can no longer trust views because mafia has had enough time to get themselves all godfathery.  From here on out I'll be vetting people by using Abu to steal their items.  If they have mafia scummy items then we poison apple them.  BOOM BABY!" (This stands out because not long before that he says he called Pral being scum off my view of him.)

 

He asked who town viewed him. (He hit Mish's trigger, but she hasn't gotten her result yet. So unless someone else did, this seems like him saying "I'm town, I've been vetted. Yet above he says we shouldn't trust the views. So which is it?)

 

Then he makes the spyglass comment. 

 

Then this:  Posted by TGlems on Today, 07:23 AM in DM Mafia Games

Kaylee, on 16 May 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:

Pral: I'm not pushing it. I simply gave the result from the trigger you hit.

 

"Why aren't you pushing it?  You got a guilty view, shouldn't you follow it up by trying to examine gameplay and see if it jives with your viewing?" 

 

(He's back to pushing the idea to trust the view. Even though I don't trust Pral, this back and forth on trusting views, esp since his result isn't back yet, just seems like he really wants to seal the deal on Pral. Maybe TG is scum and Pral isn't. Just something that crossed my mind reading this.)

 

I don't trust TG.

 

 

[Leelou]

There are a lot of inactives in this thread and that's not helpful at all.

[Leelou]

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Players:

1. Darthe, Captain Hook, Mafia, lynched day 3

2. Amega

3. Alanna

4. Vos, Patch, Town, lynched day 1

5. Kaylee

6. TGlems

7. Lenlo

8. Pralaya

9. Hallia

10. Mish

11. AJ, Fantasy, Town, nk n1

12. Lia

13. Wombat

14. Krak

15. Verb

16. Leelou

 

 

[Leelou]

Amega, lia, and krak. Where are you guys? Hallia has been on the quiet side too.

[Leelou]

I'm on mobile so I can't see post totals, but how many posts does krak have and when is the last time he posted?