[Basic] Real Genius Mafia - GAME OVER - TOWN AND SURVIVOR WIN

[Hallia]

'cause I'm catching up everywhere!  (Disney trumps DM, true story)

 

Glad to see Des, that clears up one of my suspicions for now

 

Darthe's frustration seems to be genuine regarding his other head.  Still a strange, strange creature

 

I normally am behind Cory 110%  but I think there's a good likelyhood of him being teh mafs.

[Cory Caboose]

Hallia, can you elaborate? I don't remember us every being town-town together to be honest (I remember playing with you in Star Wars and TRW)

[Cory Caboose]

EBWOP: you were Mafia in both of those

 

I think we were town-town in Twilight but I died before I really did anything that game and I don't remember you being "behind me"

[Hallia]

I think more of the way you posted and interacted.  It just seems different to me.  But you could be right, we just haven't town-towned before.(well, and had you live. )

[Cory Caboose]

What do you think of Basel and Amega this game?

 

I have some other stuff for you as well but I want to be fully 100% caught up first ;)

[Basel Gill]

I'm still thinking Amega is scum. My mind keeps coming back to his defensive overreaction on D1... you know, the one I noticed and then Zanube sheeped me noticing.

[Cory Caboose]

SCUMWRECKING WoTs INCOMING...

 

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PROCESSING GOATWOT #1

[Cory Caboose]

Went through EVERYTHING AND THEN AGAIN and I'm going to break this up into several posts and SPOILER for your convenience.

 

A lot of focus here in on Darthe and Amega, two players I might have incorrectly towncleared for dumb reasons that are bothering the hell out of me on reread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

AORN would lynch Darthe, Basil, that other guy

Already 0/3 according to my reads. Prognosis is looking grim Tommy.

 

 

You got a town read on Basil for voting me?

Why are you ignoring Nyn?

I think Darthe is scum, Cory

I do I do I really do!

 

 

I don't understand Darthe's handling of Basel at all. Initially when Tommy FoSes Darthe & Basel, Darthe soft-defends Basel saying he's wrong on all of his scumreads.

When asked to elaborate, he later explains his Town!Basel read is a joke:

 

 

I really want to hear about Darthe's read on That Other Guy personally

I dont actually have one on basel, it just sounds better than ?/3

 

 

At this point, Basel has done little other than his FoS @ Tommy (which seemed mostly like a joke) - let's see how this develops.

 

 

 

 

Tommy isn't voting you. I don't understand what you meant by that.

 

I fell in love with Darthe during Twilight Mafia due to his snarky comments being similar to things that I would say, and Cory and I decided that Darthe and I are pretty much one.

 

 

Word.  What do you think of Tommy here?  At first I was irked with his pretty baseless way of assessing, or rather I was with how strongly he was forcing his reads based on it, but I don't think that it is telling where my gut reaction  to it said it was.

 

 

I fell in love with Darthe

 

I.... don't know that I've ever seen that phrase before.

 

 

I didn't handle it so well.

 

darthe would you mind showing where he forced his reads? i saw him ask you if you where scum the rest seemed like usual snarkyness i expect from you/cory/tommy

 

 

This looks REALLY good for Amega if Darthe is Mafia. Holding for the future.

 

Also you misunderstood what i meant.. You dont need to distance your communication with him, just your views and opinions on him to make your reads clearer for both yourself and the rest of town

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Otherwise i can not use your reads if they are clouded by your affection and admiration of him as a player. sorry but its true.

 

Amega saying he "cannot" use my reads rubs me the wrong way. These sort of weird "change the way you see things" posts bother me, but bother me more with a Town!Tommy flip - Amega seems to be mad that I am soulreading Tommy town early and is telling me to reconsider my read because "he cannot use it".

 

 

 

LEN U SCUM?

MAYBE. ARE U   Y/N?
 
WITH LOVE, LEN

So is this a subtle accidental slip by Len that he might not be town?

 

 

Let's say this drivel is an honest FoS @ Lenlo - let's see how Basel furthers his read on Lenlo based on Lenlo "accidentally slipping" (lol)

 

^That.  I have Cory, Clov and Basel as town.  

 

I actually like the reactions from Tommy here.  I pushed and so did quite a few others and he got flustered.  A lot of people forget how new he really is and how unusual it is for him to be town.  This looks to me like he is making an earnest attempt and can't figure out why it isn't going as smoothly.  Frankly speaking, when he is faking he is smoother.

 

(Ninjad 2x)

 

Okay, Basel has not actually posted anything game-relevant since his initial weird joke-y but-not-really vote of Tommy. Darthe directly said he was JOKING about his read on Basel, but at this point has him as a townread. Darthe, when exactly did your opinion on Basel change? I understand your current stance on Basel, but you implied you had no thoughts as your immediate reaction to his OP.

Can you go through whatever mental gymnastics led you to change your mind?

 

 

 

then again the last time I thought you were making sense was VS Hunt III, but you got LOLganAura'd

 

Can't we just make this an easy world where I can read Smart!Darthe as mafia and Full!Darthe as town? Can't you make ANYTHING EASY

 

Nope.  Multifaceted like that.  However, I am obviously town here.  Willing to stick my neck out, taking on Tommy early, checking everyone for BS.  

 

Who are you trying to convince here? yourself or us? Telling us what you are doing that makes you town is weird. i'd expect you to let your play speak for itself.

 

 

took a double take at this. glad kaylee asked. Not feeling tommy yet. Haven't seen him try the ##teamalliance thing once yet. 
 
Also not feeling dawthe yet as much of anything.. darthe is probably dragging them down

I don't know why this #alliance thing gets brought up again and again. I have seen their games and althought they act all buddy with each other D1, they usually get against once the game progresses. Just a distraction talk.

That said, I have barely seen Tommy as town. That too in one game which did not have Cory or others. So, nearly impossible to determine his alignment just on a few pages in D1.

i got mentored so i have been trying to change my style to be more effective and less of a hindrance that should explain the posting style change and pretty much eliminate that last post of yours.

Did not see any change in your style of posting IN the game you were mentored on. Why would it suddenly change here?

First i never said i had figured out either's alignment. That was not the purpose of the post. I have only played a couple of games with both of them together and it seems their relationship is a factor in discerning alignments. Cory answer'd and stated that being friendly with tommy was the best way to discern his alignment after a few days. Which makes sense, even though i feel that the other party could manipulate this relationship if they tried hard enough. So no it wasn't distraction and it brought plenty of content to the thread. Why would you want to stifle that information and how people view their analytical process of each other?

 

Second. I saw it change and so did Darthe. You being mafia and probably not being majorly concerned with the words i was writing so much as a way to reply without incriminating yourself might have a factor on your opinion. I will continue to change my style as long as i play. It can easily be as radical as one day. My motivation and effort per game will have impacts on these

 

@nyn I said that for the sole purpose to irritate Cory since he dictated what i can say, and see what he would say in his current mood.

 

@tommy that is a solid catch on mish. I wasn't particularly concerned enough to comment on her vote. 

 

@darthe fetch your partner, how will she learn if you cover all the bases for her :)

 

 

Amega's early suspects are Darthe and Mish. He continues to snipe Darthe in a way where I think it'd be all but impossible for them to be scum together, so that's one thing.

 

 

Basil eh. I reread his posts in the game thus far.

He shows up and votes Tommy, saying he's always scum and makes a joke about the lawnmower gif that tommy posted. Comes off like a joke vote so null. Then he posts a gif mocking memes. Later it gets interesting when he seconds Darthe and mentions that he's noticed the pattern of tommy's play on a different mafia game and states that he was scum there. Joke vote doesn't seem that jokey anymore. perhaps? It would be interesting to know if he ever played with tommy before when tommy was town. If he hasn't and therefore does not know how he plays as a townie, then his point here is completely moot. Because he has no point of comparison.
 

Nyn, you don't play as much. So I'm going to guess you've never made a joke vote and then wound up actually feeling a real case on the person you're joke voting. This isn't even the first time this has happened to me. And I've never played with Tommy at all, just modded him once. But I've read through enough of his games to feel that his play here matches his scum meta.

 

 

I think (terrible, weird, talk-downy) posts like this are what Darthe is pointing to for his Town!Basel read, which is annoying because this happens after Darthe flips his null-read on Basel to a townread.

 

So in conclusion: He suspects Tommy and Darthe, goes back and forth between suspecting Tommy to fence sitting on him. He ended with agreeing with him. Not sure where he sits with either to be honest.

 

He riled Cory for dictating his play while telling Cory how to play.

 

His reads seems to go back and forth and I don't have a clue who he suspects at this point. Leaning scum

 

Vote Amega

 

A part of what bothers me with Pral and his conditional Amega reads is that he specifically FoSes this post while supplying townreads on Tommy and Mish. Just for the record, we get a couple posts directly after this in response to Kaylee expanding on the Scum!Amega read discussed in our QT.

 

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

DragonMount is going to make me break this up into like 6 posts. Ugh.

 

 

 

 

 

@Kaylee  you've made some really good points. I'm good with having our vota on Amega.

 

 

 

 

Nyn

 

 

 

 

So in conclusion: He suspects Tommy and Darthe, goes back and forth between suspecting Tommy to fence sitting on him. He ended with agreeing with him. Not sure where he sits with either to be honest.

He riled Cory for dictating his play while telling Cory how to play.

His reads seems to go back and forth and I don't have a clue who he suspects at this point. Leaning scum

Vote Amega

I'll second your analysis. Thanks.

 

 

Tommy/Nyn support Kaylee's narrative. HMMMMMMM

 

Kaylee is back to doing that IIOA thing she does as scum.

 

Darthe IMMEDIATELY FoSes her in response. I don't remember if Pral had a townread on Darthe but if he doesn't I would be perturbed.

 

 

Why aren't you letting Dawn post, Darthe?

Totally am dude.

 

Alright guys, we have three hydras and one mentored player which is LIKE a hydra. I think we should lynch one of the following:

Zanube [mentored by Despo]
CrayLee [Cory/Kaylee]
Dawthe [Dawn/Darthe]
Nommy [Nyn/Tommy]

Seriously. Hydras are more likely to be scum. Just look at Darthe's game. It's science.

Lol

 

 

DAWN WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME?

It's kind of hard to say much when Darthe doesn't let me. 

 

I also have no reads on anyone yet.

 

WTF is this dawn?  I posted this and you have never ever responded or discussed anything:

 

Hello Dawn. We have a few rules for this one. I am not just hydraing with you, I'm teaching. Thus, don't rashly go and start posting all over the thread. Post your thoughts here and we will debate them.

 

 

My Darthe-wouldn't-treat-Dawn-like-this-as-town is retracted by posts like these.

Under pressure for how Dawn is being silenced in the thread, Darthe makes an obvious post to copy-paste something from a QT that he would say to his Town!Dawn hydra partner and explain his motives.

Honestly, this sort of seems like PM-matching sort of BS and I'm sort of surprised Darthe did something like this to try and get the pressure off him.

 

Blech.

 

Seems fair.

 

Zanube being gone is terrible considering how active his mentor would be.

Clov looks slight town.

CrayJay is slight town (I have issue with Kaylee.  My main tell on her is that as scum she safely always summates instead of giving her impressions, aka IIOA which is information instead of analysis)

Tsuki? no friggin clue

Amega - slight scum, mainly for the taunting post he made at you and for his really spastic manner of overstating everything.  The reason this is slight is because I recently mentored him and watched him do this as town, albeit in a slightly more concise manner.

Lenlo? hasn't been around.  starting to see a trend.  His one significant post was meh.

Hally I can't recall either.  I feel like she has posted but hasn't contributed.  Prob town since that is her MO but I am not willing to clear her yet.

Laya looks a bit better, I recall him contributing meaningfully.  Gut impression, mind you.  I've not actually went back through

Nommy I like this game.  Pressured you right off the bat to see if I could get an atypical opening from you and I got what I wanted from it.  

Mish I can't really recall tbh

Basel I am a fan of here.  His posts, when made, look like town basel based on my quite good meta of him.  Unfortunately that meta is counter-intuitive to what constitutes good scumhunting.

 

Several of the reads I have serious problems with on reread.

 

He can't recall anything Mish said, but Mish's snapping at Amega was one of the major reasons we had an Amega push. It was thoroughly discussed by me and Tommy, and around here Darthe starts developing a scumread on Mish.

 

The problem with this is that he's leaning scummy on Amega; how he handles Mish after this is a big concern, because on reread you would assume he would think Mish is townish because they have the same exact read on Amega's behavior.

 

One of the things I sort of "know" playing around here is that Hallia is sort of known to lurk as scum, so I don't get that read. It seems it's really not alignment indicative if anything.

 

Pral hasn't posted much as of this point besides soft defending Amega as town. Again, he has Amega as a slight scumread, so ???

 

The narrative continues on Basel, but I have trouble discerning his early reads.

 

 

Alright done with classes for today, yay for professors canceling! Also yay for after weekend legit play!

 

 

 

why are you getting so defensive about messing up bro? must have hit a nerve. I never said i soul read or solved the game, it's called constructive criticism. I love it when it's constructive, i guess you dont. 

 

Btw didn't you die day 2 or 3 with absolutely no reads on him? 

 

Also you misunderstood what i meant.. You dont need to distance your communication with him, just your views and opinions on him to make your reads clearer for both yourself and the rest of town

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Otherwise i can not use your reads if they are clouded by your affection and admiration of him as a player. sorry but its true.

Bold: I agree with Mish here, this reads less like constructive/towny play and more as attempting to rile someone up, get them annoyed so they make mistakes that can be capitalized on to push a lynch. Especially cause later on I believe someone says to not say that at them and immediately after he goes "Must have hit a nerve" again as if to just mess with them

 

Blue: This just gives me a bad feeling. Its like its another shot.

 

All in all I dun like this.

 

 

 

LEN U SCUM?

MAYBE. ARE U   Y/N?
 
WITH LOVE, LEN

So is this a subtle accidental slip by Len that he might not be town?

 

Basel hasnt played with me for awhile, but I still dont like this push. It wasnt subtle at all, I kinda caps locked it, and it was obv a joke.

 

##Unvote
##Vote Amega

Explain plox?

 

I barely explained; I don't like his phrasing or what he's chosen to comment on thus far. He reminds me of when we were scum together in the red wedding game. I don't really have a stronger scum read than him right now, so here we are.

Thank you. Im honestly not sure how to read you. I thought you were scum when you were town, I thought you were town when you were scum, I just cant seem to get you right. Maybe I should just take whatever I get and flip it. That might work.

 

##Unvote

##Vote Mish

Classic "discuss one person, vote another" scum strat.

Disagree. She only talked about Amega in that post and then she voted Amega. This looks like a missrep of her only post in the game at that point.

 

 

Cory just hasn't set off any bad vibes for me yet (he usually does with opens in games) which is good enough for me for now.  Basel and I seem to be mindmelding.  He never posts a ton but his points are pretty salient here.  I'll take it D1.

 

 

So, I am trying to get inside your head and something does not add up here.

 

I am not "setting off bad vibes", so you have a slight town lean on me. Okay.

 

Here's the issue: I don't think I have ever been Mafia in a game with you. Perhaps it's my GOAT townranding, but as far as I can remember we've played some 5-6 games and I have been town in every one. Most notably in Twilight, you made a habit of getting @ me hard as town-town because of "bad vibes", but at some point in all of those games I got NKed by the Mafia and flipped town, soooooooo

So, the logical attachment here should be: Town!Cory gives me bad vibes, shouldn't it? Or at least that I am not playing the way you would EXPECT me to play as town, your "instincts" on my alignment aside.

 

The problem with all this is because of my playing style and because I have some pretty reliable meta tells, I am going to be a universal townread by EOD, so I'm generally not someone smart to FoS as Mafia. I don't believe your townread on me is genuine and I see a lot of reasons you'd want to have a townread on me as Mafia.

 

tl;dr: I think Tommy caught you and you are now trying to win me over.

 

I like this reasoning by Cory. I have never seen how Cory is like as scum and I dont think Darthe has either, but if he gives off "bad vibes" as town wouldnt it make sense for him to not give off bad vibes as scum? So I dont get how Darthe doesnt have atleast a light scum read on Cory. He responds saying 

 

Yeah, I could see you thinking that.  I considered that you might be scum since I usually get bad mojo from you as town/town but I am not one to mistrust my own gut.  Would you care to argue that I should be sticking to a method of play that didn't work in the past few games?  Or is your argument here that because I am playing differently I am scum?  

and while it looks good on the surface, at the end that little comment about playing different because he is scum looks like prep to misrep/argue against that argument if it pops up. All in all not liking you friend.

 

 

then again the last time I thought you were making sense was VS Hunt III, but you got LOLganAura'd

 

Can't we just make this an easy world where I can read Smart!Darthe as mafia and Full!Darthe as town? Can't you make ANYTHING EASY

 

Nope.  Multifaceted like that.  However, I am obviously town here.  Willing to stick my neck out, taking on Tommy early, checking everyone for BS.  

 

Dont like this. I dont like it when people extol their own virtues of "Im town cause I did this." Its on the same level as people who say "When im scum I do this!" or "Town me always does this.". Its like instead of just saying "Im town." he feels the need to explain why hes town, which generally people shouldnt need to do imo.

 

#Vote Misheru

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I am Milton - Vanilla Town. 

 

Where the ladies at?

R.I.P. Yates. You died to young.

 

Kaylee is back to doing that IIOA thing she does as scum.

Whats IIOA and why is that a scumtell for her?

 

 

Why isn't Darthe letting you talk?

He doesn't want me to say anything stupid before I talk to him about it first.

 

 

Really? Thats not good. I know he says its about teaching, but in my experience one of the best ways to learn is through mistakes. Darthe denying you that or telling you not to do "stupid things" seems like hes more concerned with survival than anything else.

 

 

Yes, obviously. Why else would he care?

I don't really know. Because he wants to teach me, apparently, and doesn't want me to post all over the thread without thinking about it first. 

 

Darthe hasn't said much in this game, has he? (Well, neither have I, but that's normal for me on the first day)

 

Thinking is overrated. I should know, I rarely think.

 

 

 

I like this post a lot. Pretty confident Lenlo is a villager; he's making sense, his handling of Tommy early (wishy-washy) makes sense to me considering how badly Tommy duped him last game into lynching two townies with him at endgame.

 

[Cory Caboose]

I think Mish's post here broke DragonMount's quote tag limits

 

Taking a break for dinner, I got plenty more GET @ ME

 

 

 

So in conclusion: He suspects Tommy and Darthe, goes back and forth between suspecting Tommy to fence sitting on him. He ended with agreeing with him. Not sure where he sits with either to be honest.

 

He riled Cory for dictating his play while telling Cory how to play.

 

His reads seems to go back and forth and I don't have a clue who he suspects at this point. Leaning scum

 

Vote Amega

 

I like Kaylee's case on Amega, good townie points on her.

 

Seems fair.

 

Zanube being gone is terrible considering how active his mentor would be.

Clov looks slight town.

CrayJay is slight town (I have issue with Kaylee.  My main tell on her is that as scum she safely always summates instead of giving her impressions, aka IIOA which is information instead of analysis)

Tsuki? no friggin clue

Amega - slight scum, mainly for the taunting post he made at you and for his really spastic manner of overstating everything.  The reason this is slight is because I recently mentored him and watched him do this as town, albeit in a slightly more concise manner.

Lenlo? hasn't been around.  starting to see a trend.  His one significant post was meh.

Hally I can't recall either.  I feel like she has posted but hasn't contributed.  Prob town since that is her MO but I am not willing to clear her yet.

Laya looks a bit better, I recall him contributing meaningfully.  Gut impression, mind you.  I've not actually went back through

Nommy I like this game.  Pressured you right off the bat to see if I could get an atypical opening from you and I got what I wanted from it.  

Mish I can't really recall tbh

Basel I am a fan of here.  His posts, when made, look like town basel based on my quite good meta of him.  Unfortunately that meta is counter-intuitive to what constitutes good scumhunting.

 

Bold: I don't like how Darthe immediatley started discrediting after Kaylee's case on Amega. And then he also calls Amega scum here. Feels like both defending Amega and distancing from him. I think scum/scum. And I really don't like him refusing to comment on me at all pretending to not remember anything.

In general this post is ugh and I could move my vote here.

 

 

 

[Apparently DragonMount doesn't want to let me requote all of Mish's beautiful post @ 388 so go to the link and read it yourself, I kept the parts I responded to in but the rest is A+ as well]

 

Love this post by Mish, I'm very confident she is a villager as well.

 

Some thoughts: I understand the "Darthe and Amega are scum distancing" narrative, but earlier posts by Amega don't seem at all like scum-scum interactions. He sort of buzzsaws Darthe on a numerous amount of topics, which is more of a "discredit attempt" than anything which I tend to usually see in wolf-town interactions.

 

Going to re-emphasize that Mish and Tommy both support Kaylee's narrative here, which Pral uses as a FoS of Kaylee while giving townreads on Mish and Tommy for the same behavior.

 

2 + 2 = ???

 

@Kaylee i'm pretty sure tommy is town but its to early to tell for certain. I want to see where he pushes today and tomorrow. 

 

@even though kaylee is paranoid and reading into things that weren't there she seems to be making a sold effort in understanding whats going on with more than just me. With cory's play id put them as solid town.

 

Len and mish look like they are playing off of each other and they dont have much to go on. Yes i did post on purpose to irk cory i even said what i was doing right afterwards. He was being a meany! :)

 

Darthe's last few post seem to show some genuine frustration and he has some solid points. @Tommy do you still have a scum read on darthe? mine is wavering to null/town

 

Also lets take a look back at mish's post. Out of everything that happened and their wasn't alot but a few things the only thing GAME CONTENT ORIENTATED she could mention was my troll post. This is odd. Lenlo also piggy backs this reasoning.

 

##vote Mish

 

I don't understand this vote of Mish at all. He's suspected Darthe all game, Darthe starts getting snippy with Mish and votes her, and Amega jumps on.

 

So far: biggest suspects are Basel, Darthe and Amega. I'm VERY confident there are two scum there. As for a solve-start, I like Basel-Darthe better than Basel-Amega.

 

The things that bothered me about Pral are FURTHER emphasized, but there will be more on him later.

 

Mish and Lenlo are both town as far as I'm concerned.

 

 

 

 

[Hallia]

I don't really  know much about basel, but Amega's play for this game seems town to me.  Darthe, I earlier felt was scum, and got flak from people for it.

[Cory Caboose]

I would lean Darthe over Amega ATM as well, but that might be condiitonal on my Basel read for posts like this:

 

 

So if you really think im scum show me why in other post's i've made. since then instead of clinging to a sarcastic post which shows exactly nothing to prove your point.

Im not trying to lynch a townie But you are

Im not trying to discredit or lay out wifom. You are.

I'm not blowing things out of proportion. you are.

This post seems to boil down to "but I'm TOWN! TOWN!" It's like Amega is trying too hard to tell us that he's town. Unvote. Vote Amega.

 

 

I WONDER IF PRAL THINKS BASEL IS SCUM FOR THIS

[Hallia]

That's a really odd post for anyone to make.  O.o  

 

Don't we all want our posts to scream I'm town?  Seems a funk reason to vote someone.

[Cory Caboose]

One more comp before dinner, this is everything I have up to 25:

 

I CAN'T HELP MYSELF

 

 

 

 

 

Why are you voting for Len now and not Mish what's happening help

 

I voted Len because I disliked parts of his large MQ that mish quoted and I misattributed to her.  Since the points he made were my main points of contention it seemed to warrant the vote switch.  Albeit, I really dislike mish accusing me of "discrediting" someone where I clearly didn't and I also disliked her saying I "pretended" to not remember.  It is really assumptive and backwards as hell from any townie.  I'm still okay with lynching there.  

 

Darthe how much did you guys laugh when Yates died

 

I miss Yates.  He was a good townie.

 

I notice that you're still voting me.  Bad vibes are based on what?  Please be more specific than "tone" or "you fussed with my hydra".  

 

 

So Darthe misattributed his FoS @ Mish to Lenlo - interested in his follow-up to this. I have his big suspects ATM as Amega (less because of his reactions), Mish and Lenlo

 

[i ripped out Basel's post here where he votes Amega. I pulled this because this is THE most conspicious vote @ Amega ITT and Pral's catch-up post that has bugged me from the start should bring this up considering his reads are predicated on an Amega!Town flip]

 

I have finished reading the thread. I have a town read on Nommy, Craylee(because of Kaylee) and Lenlo. I have a scummy feeling on Amega and Darthe.

 

I am going to look at Amega and Darthe posts particularly and will tell why I think them scummy.

 

Des can be town 

 

I am taking some of the posts of amega's that kind of stood out to me.

 

 

 

I wouldn't complain if you did.

 
I'm sure you wouldn't :P
 
Unfortunately, posting half-hearted (am I allowed to use another word there?  What exactly is PG-13?) reads that I'm not sure if I'm supposed to take seriously isn't enough to get me to clear you.

Then you're not trying hard enough. I'm already clear, you're just not experienced enough to know it yet.

 

This is b.s. I would ask if this stuff actually works for you but apparently it did cause ##teamalliance and GOAT crumbled to ashes in your presences.

 

 

 

Don't worry, we're only on the foreplay phase.

 

 

 

Nyn

Foreplay is overrated

 

Tommy isn't voting you. I don't understand what you meant by that.

 

took a double take at this. glad kaylee asked. Not feeling tommy yet. Haven't seen him try the ##teamalliance thing once yet. 

 

Also not feeling dawthe yet as much of anything.. darthe is probably dragging them down

 

 

Why do you think this alignment indicative for Tom?

For example, in the last game Tommy did the #teamalliance thing and was Mafia. Do you associate this with his town game?

 

Well it had a radical effect on you last game and i even hinted at it and you swept it under the rug.. Maybe you should distance your self and get a clean perspective to properly discern your bromance's alignments in future games.

 

Like you said though Tommy wants to be townspewed as both scum and mafia. Except in this game i haven't seen him going to deep in alliance mode.

 

How do i stick out and what would you like to discuss? 

 

I feel that you are advising Cory and at the same time you are not leaving Tommy's case.

 

why are you getting so defensive about messing up bro? must have hit a nerve. I never said i soul read or solved the game, it's called constructive criticism. I love it when it's constructive, i guess you dont. 

 

Btw didn't you die day 2 or 3 with absolutely no reads on him? 

 

Also you misunderstood what i meant.. You dont need to distance your communication with him, just your views and opinions on him to make your reads clearer for both yourself and the rest of town

. 

Otherwise i can not use your reads if they are clouded by your affection and admiration of him as a player. sorry but its true.

must have hit a nerve. This really sounds like mafia.

 

 

From his posts he seems to be going back and forth between Tommy and Darthe and now it also includes Lenlo. According to me Town goes between a lot of players to find scum while mafia concentrates on one person for lynch.And Amega is doing that. But I am confused by his posts and right now I have a mixed feel.

 

Going to eat lunch right now so I will post about Darthe after lunch. 

 

Des can TOTALLY be town     

 

Okay so town leans:
CrayLee
Lenlo
Mish

Weak town leans:
Amega
Tsuki
Hallia

Null:
Clov (just cuz he's good at scum)
Pral (really need to read him)

Bothersome:
Darthe
Zanube
Basel

That's where I'm at. I suspect all 3 scum are in my bottom 5.

Len what did Pral do or say ITT?

 

Tommy can be town, too

 

...

 

   

 

I can lynch Pral today

Len who says he sounded good? I remember someone said he did. He does not.

 

Darthe said he looked good for his OP (nope)

Mish and Kaylee liked his first catch-up.

 

I said I had a gut town read on Pral, Tommy.

 

Mish got some balls, immediately addresses her read to Tommy.

 

 

LOCK CLEAR

 

 

 

 

 

Despite feeling WAAYYY over my head in this (BASIC) game, I'm throwing a vote Darthe/Dawn's way.
I really don't have a good about him, but it's the only one I'm even slightly confident about.

VOTE DAWTHE

Who else is stirring around in your mind pot?

 

 

 

I can lynch Pral today

Len who says he sounded good? I remember someone said he did. He does not.

 

I scanned the thread for this... Kaylee and Mish did, like they pointed out. Darthe did too.

 

 

Despite feeling WAAYYY over my head in this (BASIC) game, I'm throwing a vote Darthe/Dawn's way.

I really don't have a good about him, but it's the only one I'm even slightly confident about.

 

VOTE DAWTHE

 

I don't like this post.

 

I looked into your posting content. You're posting all over the place (a sum of 3 pages of content since the game started in various boards), yet hardly here. You made like three posts indicating that we're all crazy. You made a post giving links to previous games you've played in, after being asked (by tommy, I think). When asked for reads, you say you don't have a freaking clue and say we're all nuts again. Then you made a useless post indicating that you're creeping around... in the shadows. Which is another post I did not like. And then the above post. Awesome.

 

One particular other place you're posting in is a different advanced mafia game, the Once Upon a Time mafia game. So your 'oh noes, I might have bitten more than I can chew with a BASIC game' post seems a bit fake. Not to mention that the sheer amount of posting you have in the other game casts a negative light on your involvement in this game. Any particular reason you're being quiet here? :P

 

Why are you slightly confident about Darthe being scum? Humor me. I know you can make more than one/two liner posts.

 

 

Nyn

 

frakkin DM eating posts -

 

Nyn - I have never played in a game that started the way this one did. You, Clov, Tommy, Darthe, and Kaylee came in throwing so much dust in the air that I am tempted to call you all scum (despite the foolishness of that). However, you are all better players than I, and so I have been lurking, trying to get down each person's style, reasons behind accusations, sorting out what's an in-joke, learning acronyms and slang... yeah, I may be playing in an advanced game, but the advanced PLAYERS are here...

 

Tommy - I don't like Amega. I am not a fan of becoming over-defensive on day 1. He did that. There are town reads on him by some, but I am not convinced.

               Basel is doing the same thing she was doing in the UOAT game, and she rolled town on a D1 lynch. Seems that BG is often rolled that way on d1. Leaning town.

              Hallia lurks. It is what she does. Slight Town read. She is more active as scum (at least was in the last series of games I played, 9 months ago, LOL)

              Mish strikes me as town, sticking her neck out, tunneling in on darthe despite how it could look (a day one tunnel, usually not good)

              Len hasn't been active enough for me to make a decent read.

              Clov - Town read, lots of prods in all directions.

             Tommy - town read, tryin to get answers, digging well, pulling in inactives.

 

 

I like this post by Tsuki, actually, though I think she's wrong on a lot. She does fit as an Amega scum partner, but I doubt she's scum with Darthe. Reads make sense to me, though this will be the second person saying Hallia is townish for lurking >.>

 

I doubt she's scum with Basel simply because derp 

 

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

That's a really odd post for anyone to make.  O.o  

 

Don't we all want our posts to scream I'm town?  Seems a funk reason to vote someone.

 

Easiest answer: Basel is probably Mafia 

 

           

[Cory Caboose]

Come up out dah wahta

In all four seasons

Come up out dah wahta

Then I walk on it like Jesus

Fresh up out dah wahta

Like I'm an amphibian

I am so fresh that I got an Aunt Vivian

Fresh up out dah wahta

And you know dah deal

I'm fresh up out dah wahta

Like a really pretty seal

[Cory Caboose]

EBWOP: NO ONE MAN SHOULD ALL DAT POWAH

[Tsukibana]

I appreciate cory calling me a "she". Watch a lot of anime, do you?

 

MIsh and Cory seem to do a real good job casing people, and give a lot of info. At the risk of being accused of "Just Following along", I'm gonna say that alot of what you say seems

to ring, but I have a few observations of my own, and a few revisions to my reads:

 

 

 

Tommy - I don't like Amega. I am not a fan of becoming over-defensive on day 1. He did that. There are town reads on him by some, but I am not convinced.

               Basel is doing the same thing she was doing in the UOAT game, and she rolled town on a D1 lynch. Seems that BG is often rolled that way on d1. Leaning town.

              Hallia lurks. It is what she does. Slight Town read. She is more active as scum (at least was in the last series of games I played, 9 months ago, LOL)

              Mish strikes me as town, sticking her neck out, tunneling in on darthe despite how it could look (a day one tunnel, usually not good)

              Len hasn't been active enough for me to make a decent read.

              Clov - Town read, lots of prods in all directions.

             Tommy - town read, tryin to get answers, digging well, pulling in inactives.

 

 

This was posted by me earlier. I must admit, I have been putting most of my focus in other places, but I definitely have been following along. The clov read, listed above, fell victim to Tommy's case. Sux. Maybe I should have stuck with it... On the same note, at least I called Nommy right...Adding to these...

 

basel and Hallia - I JUST started a game with both of these players - and something is screaming at me. Hallia's meta is completely different here. When I made this judgement about lurking, she had few posts, with little meaningful content - which is what I was used to seeing from her, and pointed to what I thought was her town-play. Now, she is actively casing, soft-defending Amega, and nudging people casing darthe (her "strange, strange, creature):

 

I don't really  know much about basel, but Amega's play for this game seems town to me.  Darthe, I earlier felt was scum, and got flak from people for it.

 

I haven't seen this from her recently, and it pings.

 

Mish made the comment about basel and Hallia posting elsewhere, but not in this thread (Me as well, but she left me out for some reason - shame on you!). This is common to both of them, but the post content

between this and the other game - trying to actually case people?? Unheard of.

 

TBC...

[Cory Caboose]

I appreciate cory calling me a "she". Watch a lot of anime, do you?

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

If it makes you feel better I've been waiting FOREVER for a place to use that gif

[Tsukibana]

I don't get it.

[Cory Caboose]

I was teasing you about calling Basel a she.

[Tsukibana]

Still don't get it.

 

BTW - not digging the way you turned away from Amega and Darthe at the beginning of this day. Wanna shed some light?

[Cory Caboose]

Still don't get it.

 

BTW - not digging the way you turned away from Amega and Darthe at the beginning of this day. Wanna shed some light?

 

First: I don't know if I can help you here.

 

Second: "Turned away"? How so?

[Tsukibana]

Giving them the cold shoulder. You've been playing with Mish all day. I am sure that they are lonely, now