[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[hazelkrs1]

What kinda worse? Like the cold calculating, but suave, Bond villain or the loud brash break his way through everything super hero villain?

 

Images are important things to maintain afterall.

 

 

Not sure what you're talking about here. /shrug

 

is it bad that when people say im a vig i start to twitch and auto reach for the vote button?  I am SOOO sick of vig claims!

 

 

Odds of a town vig and town doubled lovers...

 

Methinks low.  

 

Fine, may as well reveal.

 

I am a vindictive vote thief.  Character claiming isn't allowed so take it as you will.  

 

Should be fun to see how Des reacts to this one.

 

lolololololol

 

Claims Vote Thief

 

Expects to get away with it

 

 

Classic Darthe

 

New thought.

 

Des was just a vig in my game.  Odds of rolling vig twice are also incredibly low.  I can get worse though.

 

If DES of all people got vig how likely is it that he holsters N1?  

 

I'm going to say 0%, especially since he could have shot me last night and I gunned hard for him.   

 

If anyone has a meta on him that remotely disagrees with him doing this 100% of the time please speak up.  

 

@Des, don't try to WIFOM that either, I have you by the cajones there.  You called me lockscum like 10 times yesterday.

 

I'm so about to freaking emorage at you for bringing up probabilities afreakingGAIN. You just helped make my decision for me, thanks Darthe.

 

 

In case it wasn't obvious, yes, you're getting shot tonight. Have fun with your probabilities and statistics in the afterlife.

 

Nice job of gaming the mod and the claim btw.

 

Did I say I had a shot last night?

 

Did I give ANY details about the role?

 

Nope. Trust me Darthe, if I could have, I DEFINITELY would have shot you last night after your scummy scummy reaction to the lynch yesterday.

[Lenlo]

I was making a joke on what kinda scum/bad guy I was apparently looking like since you think im scum so much. Its 1 am so cut me a break on some bad jokes ok?

[Lenlo]

Wait so you didnt have a shot last night or did you not have a vig last night? Your going to need to explain this in full please because atm its sounding less and less like a vig role.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

You havnt asked me anything about Darthe that I should answer and ive had no reason to bring him up because youve been defending Tina like a Marine defends his country. So please dont try and tie me to him by not talking about what hasnt been brought up.

 

I shouldn't HAVE to directly ask you stuff about Darthe. You should be able to see the ton of stuff I just pointed out on Darthe and comment. I haven't even iso'd him yet, but yeah dude he's seriously scummy.

 

And you're STILL evading the issue honestly, just complaining of me linking you. If you have to have it spoonfed, fine.

 

What do you think about Darthe, Lenlo?

 

 

Thats right. Fly that little airplane spoon. It makes eating much easier when I dont have to do anything.

 

Darthes interactions with Dead Jack and the framing of Cory is horrendous. Theres nothing you havnt said so this may sound like parrotting but his interactions with Dead Jack and what looks like possible setups for a Cory lynch today are the worst offenders and are quite scummy. Im perfectly fine with lynching Darthe today but I want to lynch Tina much more, which apparently im not allowed to do.   Bum.

 

 

Hey, anyone remember this post? When I had to drag and beat a read on Darthe out of Lenlo, and then he finally commented that Darthe looked horrendous?

 

And yet he continuously keeps rolling over this, keeps ignoring Darthe and isn't interested in applying more pressure or asking questions of the guy he said looked "horrendous" recently?

 

Nope, Lenlo is too happy to keep fos'ing Tina over and over.

 

Darthe/Lenlo are CONFIRMED yall. Lynch one, I'll shoot the other. Bing bang boom.

[hazelkrs1]

Wait so you didnt have a shot last night or did you not have a vig last night? Your going to need to explain this in full please because atm its sounding less and less like a vig role.

 

 

I think I made it EXTREMELY clear I did not have a Vig last night.

 

And nice try wifoming my claim moar. I lerve it.

[hazelkrs1]

And eh, wtf why not. Want this to be over with.

 

I only received my ability to Vig after a certain character died. Won't take too many guesses for who

 

And as much as I would love to wifom the scum team, it's not a Day shot ability. It's at night. So if they got a RB'er, they'll have that much more info to plan their NA's.

 

Good job scum!Lenlo. You got it out of me.

 

Please die nao. Thanks.

[Darthe]

So then you fake claimed.

 

Got it.

 

You realize that when you get lynched today I don't have to worry about your shot tomorrow... right?

[Darthe]

lol ninjad.

[Lenlo]

You made it clear you didnt have a vig shot last night, yes I know. Im wondering why you have one tonight. Was it given to you? Im not trying to wifom anything im trying to make sense of this.

 

Im fosing Tina cause again she HASNT DEFENDED HERSELF. You have done all the leg work for her. All of it. The whole game. She has had to do nothing.

 

Im also not ignoring Darthe I just dont have anything to say to him atm. Everytime he brings something up you point it out and theres no point in me repeating it when there is literally only 4 active players in this game and each of them is reading it.

[hazelkrs1]

Darthe trying to game the setup to make my claim less believable is

 

 

 

(flailing)

[hazelkrs1]

So then you fake claimed.

 

Got it.

 

You realize that when you get lynched today I don't have to worry about your shot tomorrow... right?

 

I didn't fake claim. I didn't reveal all the details to my role.

 

Who is more interested in gathering all the details to a PR claim, scum or town?

 

Yeahhhhhhh.

 

Starting audit btw, will bbl.

[Darthe]

Well, that really depends on the situation.  You're threatening my life.

 

I have your vote.  

 

Seems like I would be pretty interested.  Pray you don't make it to L-1 though.  You might just turn that gun on yourself.

[Lenlo]

Yes but Des when you full claim like that youed already given out all the facets of your role. It wasnt until you said you didnt have it the night before that we asked about it. Its not a normal occurrence for someone to get a vig shot randomly in the night so you can see why I was asking. Im not trying to wifom you or anything, im trying to figure out whats going on and the probability of both of your claims.

[Lenlo]

Well, that really depends on the situation.  You're threatening my life.

 

I have your vote.  

 

Seems like I would be pretty interested.  Pray you don't make it to L-1 though.  You might just turn that gun on yourself.

Ok this? Wow. Thats scummy as hell. "I have your vote". "Threatening your life"? town generally dont resort to threats or exclamations like that, they tend to try and reason out of it or show someone is a better lynch target. This right here? Looks like scum taunting imo.

[Lenlo]

Actually ##vote Darthe for that for now. Still want Tina lynched. Really really do and by the end of this game if/when she flips scum im not even going to say anything. Ill just let it sink in itself.

[Darthe]

 

Well, that really depends on the situation.  You're threatening my life.

 

I have your vote.  

 

Seems like I would be pretty interested.  Pray you don't make it to L-1 though.  You might just turn that gun on yourself.

Ok this? Wow. Thats scummy as hell. "I have your vote". "Threatening your life"? town generally dont resort to threats or exclamations like that, they tend to try and reason out of it or show someone is a better lynch target. This right here? Looks like scum taunting imo.

 

 

Do scum taunt any more than town?  We have objectives Len, convince me what good reason I would have to do it as scum if you can.

[Lenlo]

You got really caught up in your emotions and it looked scummy to me. I callsem as I seesem. I was with you kinda until then. You looked scummy, Des made meh points, it was iffy. But then that came it just felt baaaaaad. Best I explain this late. I need to sleep.

[Darthe]

Meh, fair.  See it as you will.  I'm going to stick to it and see how he responds.

[hazelkrs1]

Well, that really depends on the situation.  You're threatening my life.

 

I have your vote.  

 

Seems like I would be pretty interested.  Pray you don't make it to L-1 though.  You might just turn that gun on yourself.

 

Bahahaha I love it Darthe. You think threatening me will make me back off of you? Or make it less likely that others will join in on lynching you?

 

 

Yes but Des when you full claim like that youed already given out all the facets of your role. It wasnt until you said you didnt have it the night before that we asked about it. Its not a normal occurrence for someone to get a vig shot randomly in the night so you can see why I was asking. Im not trying to wifom you or anything, im trying to figure out whats going on and the probability of both of your claims.

 

Did I ever say it was a full claim? No. I claimed Vig, but nothing said that I had revealed all details of my role.

 

Also, you were basically questioning it BEFORE I said I didn't have a shot N1. You kept encouraging me to shoot, even acting frustrated that I hadn't shot yet. This could EASILY be seen as you fishing for more info about my role, like when I could Vig people.

 

 

Well, that really depends on the situation.  You're threatening my life.

 

I have your vote.  

 

Seems like I would be pretty interested.  Pray you don't make it to L-1 though.  You might just turn that gun on yourself.

Ok this? Wow. Thats scummy as hell. "I have your vote". "Threatening your life"? town generally dont resort to threats or exclamations like that, they tend to try and reason out of it or show someone is a better lynch target. This right here? Looks like scum taunting imo.

 

Strange reasoning right here. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you voted Darthe, I just want to be able to follow your reasoning. Wasn't I just threatening Darthe? Why fos Darthe for threatening me, but not me for threatening him?

 

Scared of the guy with the gun?

 

 

Actually ##vote Darthe for that for now. Still want Tina lynched. Really really do and by the end of this game if/when she flips scum im not even going to say anything. Ill just let it sink in itself.

 

.... you do realize that should Darthe flip scum that pretty much spews Tina as town, right?

 

That you don't even consider this, and just want to leave room to try and lynch Tina down the road regardless of Darthe's flip or other stuff, gives me seriously bad juju on you Lenlo.

 

 

 

Well, that really depends on the situation.  You're threatening my life.

 

I have your vote.  

 

Seems like I would be pretty interested.  Pray you don't make it to L-1 though.  You might just turn that gun on yourself.

Ok this? Wow. Thats scummy as hell. "I have your vote". "Threatening your life"? town generally dont resort to threats or exclamations like that, they tend to try and reason out of it or show someone is a better lynch target. This right here? Looks like scum taunting imo.

 

 

Do scum taunt any more than town?  We have objectives Len, convince me what good reason I would have to do it as scum if you can.

 

 

What a wifomy blech post. And why is it you say "We" have objectives Darthe?

 

 

You got really caught up in your emotions and it looked scummy to me. I callsem as I seesem. I was with you kinda until then. You looked scummy, Des made meh points, it was iffy. But then that came it just felt baaaaaad. Best I explain this late. I need to sleep.

 

 

Meh, fair.  See it as you will.  I'm going to stick to it and see how he responds.

 

The way Darthe just accepts Lenlo's vote so easily looks sooooo bad to me. Def think they could be scum/scum together.

[hazelkrs1]

Darthe, I don't really like the reasoning for Lenlo's sudden switch to you.

 

If you actually ARE town, help me out here. Don't let this turn into a big town on town violence moment that hurts town. Step back a moment, stop trying to push the same crap you've been pushing, and get a fresh look on things. I assure you, I am town, and you trying to lynch me will only lead to your early demise.

 

Show me how it's possible that YOU might be town. Don't respond with some crappy snarky response, or more AtE, or any of that bs. And don't comment back until you've given yourself time to try and get a fresh outlook on things.

 

I EAGERLY await your responses

 

[dicetosser1]

len i get what he is claiming pretty much. i think i also get why he got the gun after a certain person died

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Des (2) - Darthe, Clov

Darthe (2) - Dawn, Lenlo

Dawn (1) - Hallia

 

not voting - everyone else

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

 

Deadline Saturday Noon EST (willing to move to Friday or Monday due to the holiday) 

[dicetosser1]

Monday please

[Pralaya]

@Dice and Laya for the quote dice just responded to... That reads like "This looks really town but Darthe is good enough at mafia that it may be counterpsych".  If you have to WIFOM my play to make it fit "scummy" what does that say about me?

 

I'm pointing out illogical play left and right and will continue to regardless of how Des attempts to destroy my character (credibility) in the game.  

 

Well, yeah. I still don't find the NK logical in case you are scum. Des argument that you were meant to kill her anyway and were FoSing her is not very convincing. The more I think about it, it looks like the BFG kill was a trap, especially since she was going hard at you over the Csarmi town read. 

 

At the same time, I am not a fan of the way you went after Cory. A person with your experience would know that there will be a lot of mislynches on D1. So, it was weird the way you went after him. Also, I am not a fan of the personal and ad hominem attacks that you had against Dawn and Des when you were having the conversation with Tommy. 

 

But given the logical thought regarding my first point, I think you are town.

[Pralaya]

I see how you could both easily be town.  You're both passionate players, Des just does it with more words, and you do it with a touch more sarcasm.  I'm leaning town on town right now.

 

Exactly. This is what I am feeling right now, after a thorough read of the game.

 

My thoughts about Darthe I have given above. 

 

I had a slight scum read on Des on Day 1 because of his and Cory's frequent and coordinated vote jumps . With Cory flipping town, I think I was off my initial read on him.

 

The exchange between Des and Darthe is intense but with my experience with both of them, I have seen them going against each other a lot of times even when both of them have been town. I think that is the what is happening in this game. This is giving me a feeling that the scum are sitting on the sidelines or nudging subtly the rivalry between Darthe and Des.