[Advanced] Star Wars Thrawn Mafia, Heir To The Empire, Town and 3rd party win

[Cory Caboose]

Yes, I'm confirmed. I'm Mara Jade as I said earlier.

 

Des tried to push to Turin from TG (as did Tommy)

 

I want to wait on Dice's result before anything

[Tommyrod]

Yes, I'm confirmed. I'm Mara Jade as I said earlier.

 

Des tried to push to Turin from TG (as did Tommy)

 

I want to wait on Dice's result before anything

 

Sounds good.

[hazelkrs1]

lolololol

 

So lemme get this straight.

 

I help lynch scum in TG D2, and was a huge part in showing why he was scummy in the first place, even tho I also found Turin very scummy.

 

I do the most #work of anyone except for when I was off, and EVEN THEN I follow it up by helping to lynch moar scum in Hallia. And I was entirely the reason for her lynch btw, I started the push for her and all the other unvotes followed.

 

And then yall still think I could be scum? Just freaking laughable.

 

Honestly feel like ditching this thread and leaving yall to your awful devices for that kind of reasoning. You don't deserve the effort I've put into this game if you still honestly believe I could be scum now.

 

Feeling like Tommy is most likely scum. Defends me as town from Tina like the ENTIRE GAME, only to suddenly flip flop on me AFTER I GET HALLIA LYNCHED. Tommy is not that awful as town. And he has less to clear him than anyone else (I'll get to that in next post).

 

Vote Tommy.

[hazelkrs1]

Only other option is prob Puppets imo. But he had been cleared by something earlier, just can't remember it atm. Gotta refresh myself a bit on this game.

[hazelkrs1]

Actually, VC analysis first, then I'll get to everyone left.

[hazelkrs1]

Alright here are all the VC's (color coded cause I'm awesome like that )

 

Tina (2) TG, Monk
Xthrax (9) Tommy, Peace, des, GE, Tina, AJ, Cory, Puppet, Darthe
Cory (1) Xthrax
Monk (1) Kronos

Not voting (3) Pral, Turin, Csarmi

 

 

Tommy (1) krak
Tina (1) Pray
TG (5) SP, monk, Tina, dice, Cory, Tommy, Des, Turin
Turin (2) Hally, TG

Not voting (2) Kronos, Luci

 

 

Krak (6) Puppet, Tommy, Kronos, des, cory, Pral
Hally (1) Tina
Kronos (1) Monk

Not voting (2) Hally, Krak, Dice

 

 

Des (1)Tommy
Hally (5) SP, des, Tina, dice, Cory
Monk (2) Kronos, Hally
Tina (1) Monk

 

My analysis coming next post. Wanted to keep this one rudimentary in case others wanted to view it in their own perspective.

[hazelkrs1]

Alright so yeah Cory was right in that Monk is RIDIC LOCK CLEAR. In so many ways, but seriously look at the scum push on him all game, and the fact that he apparently shot Kronos last night. Def won't lynch today or ever.

 

Dice is claimed investigator- however we have a flip of a town investigative role already. Seeing a Doc as well, along with 2/3 scum flipping vanilla, and this makes me doubt his cop claim somewhat. Not completely however because of the multiple not-town factions, as well as the fact that the last scum role could be wtfpwnbbqsauce. Won't lynch today, but... we'll see if game keeps going.

 

I am town, and any who doubt that are scum or derptown. Period.

 

Cory is claimed third party Survivor Mason, somuch to back this up it's not funny. Prob won't lynch ever this game. In fact, I'll solidify that. Someone else trying to CC his Survivor claim (when we know the role is in the game btw) @ endgame would be begging for the noose so hard for waiting till the worst time to do so. So he's Survivor, and hopefully my buddy still

 

That''s 4 people that should DEFINITELY not be lynched today. Leaving us only two people- Tommy and Puppets.

 

I remember what had sorta cleared Puppets before, and that was him going after TG so early. He also went after Krak early, and was first on Hallia. I wish I could LOCK CLEAR him but unfortunately he has offered so little in the form of gameplay all game that I really can't do so. Still, only way he's scum is if he decided at the start to bus all his teammates pretty much. Suicide play which really wouldn't work anyways so yeah I doubt it.

 

Leaving us Tommy. He was early (first in fact) on the Nol/Xthrax train and the Krak train. And yet he was late on the TG train and didn't vote for Hallia at all, parking his vote on me instead. This makes him look terrible. Moreover we've essentially not seen the Top Tier Town Tommy some of us have come to love almost the entire game, only time it was there was mebbe D1. Now, his play recently has been lazy across the board lately, but honestly his play started dipping here earlier than anywhere else. I guess that's sort of cross meta tho so eh. Point is dude hasn't been trying for a while. Didn't even get reinvigorated by scum lynches like town!Tommy normally would. He's looking pretty strongly scummy atm in my eyes. I could iso him to help support this, but again- his flip flop on me recently is all too telling imo.

[hazelkrs1]

In case anyone cares (I personally could give less than two craps about character claims as they are unreliable at best as scumhunting tools), I am Winter Celchu. Vanilla.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Vote count:

 

Des (2) Tommy, Monk

Tommy (1) des

 

Not voting (3) Dice, Cory, Puppet

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

 

DL is Mon. Feb. 24th at 10 PM EST.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140224T22&p0=422

[dicetosser1]

Puppets is town

 

 

I agree tommy disappeared. However yesterday had me questioning Des actually. I almost viewed him but didnt want to be predictable

 

So on top of yesterday Des goes a bit emo then throws that character claim out. Problem is Winter did not marry Tycho til well AFTER the Thrawn crisis. 

 

Fake claim. busted

 

Vote Despo

[hazelkrs1]

Dice youre just seriously so..... Grrrrr I am so close to raging at you. Even for you this is terrible play man.

 

You think Winter wouldnt be in this game? Is that what youre saying? Even tho Leia was her adopted sister?

 

Or are you seriously trying to surmise that she'd be scum because of timeline not adding up in your head.

 

I seriously just get so mad at scrubs that rely on character claims to do their work for then instead of ACTUALLY LOOKING AT GAMEPLAY. Town deserves to lose with this kind of play, seriously.

[hazelkrs1]

Dice remove your vote from me. Don't keep falling for this same trap over and over and over and over and over again. Use your friggin head dude.

[hazelkrs1]

If Winter was a mod-given safe fake claim or something, do you really think Basel would give one that wasn't in the series at all? My character should be the LAST thing that you consider when making your vote today, NOT THE ONLY THING.

[Tommyrod]

There isn't anyone left, Des. I figured SP was town, he's been cleared just now, and everyone else was either peeked or has an alibi. By POE alone you're the last one barring some zany shenanigans where Cory was a secret scum or there was a godfather.

[Tommyrod]

I still <3 u doe

[hazelkrs1]

I still <3 u doe

 

You realize this won't work, right? Once I flip town, you're next. What's your play then?

 

And fyi I'm practically more cleared than anyone else due to scum coming @ me as well as the work I've put in to bag scum. What's your defense? How should anyone believe you're town?

[Tommyrod]

How many players are still alive? Six?

 

I assume that's 5v1 then

 

So that leaves one mislynch in the worst case before LyLo

 

But I know I'm town and we don't know for certain that you're town, and everyone else has been cleared within reason

 

By POE you're the last scum

 

We're just going through the motions now

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Vote count:

 

Des (3) Tommy, Monk, dice

Tommy (1) des

 

Not voting (2) Cory, Puppet

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

 

DL is Mon. Feb. 24th at 10 PM EST.

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140224T22&p0=422

[dicetosser1]

as i said des i was sus of you yesterday   the claim adds to it 

 

and tommy itd be 4 v 1 v1  cause cory can win either way

 

also tommys right its between you two

[hazelkrs1]

Novel incoming on Tommy's behavior D2, you know, when the first scum was lynched.

 

Preamble: It's a doozie

 

 

Checking in.  Game isn't even half a day old and already almost 10 pages?  This is gonna be fun :-)

 

Only two things worth commenting on.  CS's play is crap, but I'm leaning town because I've seen it from him before.  The spam is over the top tho.

 

Has Tommy played here before?  Because he and Des are tops on my list for scum.  I agree with Nol that posting spammity spam and lurking are anti-town.  Tommy and Des both seem to be purposely misunderstanding what Nol is saying and painting it as a black or white type thing.  Des at least shouldn't be purposely misunderstanding this as he is a DM vet.

 

Ugh. I didn't realize how weird this post was the first time around. He defends Salami, then kind of fencesits on it, and then agrees with Nolder and uses that to put suspicion on Despot and myself?

If Salami is scum I bet this guy is scum.

 

 

Tommy links TG to Salami. This becomes a common theme btw, Tommy linking TG with other now-flipped townies.

 

 

I agree with Despo on the bolded part.

 

"You play crap but you would cause I seen you play like that as town." <-- classic

 

unvote vote TG

 

I think he knows I'm town.

 

Okay, maybe TG isn't scum if Salami is scum. Salami seems happy to jump on him with the "I think he knows I'm town" line... which would be a lovely statement to make if Scumlami knows TG is town and tries to flip it around because "I'd never think to say that as scum!" or some other nonsense. 

 

Oh WOW then he instantly backtracks on that and says TG could be town if Salami is scum. Roflcopter.

 

Does Salami ever even talk about TG again after he puts that vote on him?

 

Tommy pushes Salami ALOT for this for a while

 

Hello TG. What do you make of the way Fishlami said you're strong scum without pushing you and then ended up not voting at all at EOD1 (not for you, not for Nolder)?

 

Like here for instance.

 

Des, I like it. I could see TG-Salami being scum-scum here. Still got more thread to get through before I lock that in. 

 

Goes back to saying TG could be scum with Salami after one of my wot's

 

Fishlami why did you end up not voting anyone at EOD1?

You thought TG is strong scum: didn't push it. Have you pushed it all since then?

You had intent to vote Nolder: didn't do it. I know you said you were asleep, fine, but if you had reasonable suspicion he was scum you could have voted him earlier, he was at L-2 when you said you were hammer IIRC. 

So what exactly did you intend to do with your D1? Just float around?

 

Moar pushing of the "Why didn't you keep pushing TG?" angle.

 

TG is on the sketch-dar, for sure. I think you and he could be scum-scum.

 

Moar linking of TG to Salami

 

At this point, with the way people are taking pot shots at TG but not pushing him hard, I'm trying to figure out what's more likely:

TG is town and has bad tone and scum sees a good opportunity for next mislynch
TG is scum and his scumbros were worried he outed himself with his OP
TG is some kind of third party and is just easy pickings for everyone

This would be a good focus point to resolve today

 

Dat soft defense of TG

 

 

As of this second, people who are good scum candidates:

Tina

TG

Maybe Salami

 

People I would not lynch today:

Despot

Cory

Monk

Golden

SickPuppets

 

People I need to keep developing, in order of high to low suspicion of them:

Turin
AJ/Hallia

Kronos

Darthe/Krak

Pral

 

I'm sure someone will ask "why those people?" I'll try to consolidate my thoughts in the next few hours, a lot of it is still gut and tone based stuff as I've been focusing on a couple players more than the rest 

 

Classic scum move of putting a teammate second among three reads.

 

Chopped out a post where Tommy responds to TG and asks him who we should be lynching today. Was on page 64 I believe.

 

TG ends up giving some awful reads in return, yet the only thing Tommy takes exception to is TG's null read on him. They have a little spat that again, looks fake to me.

 

TG am I going to have to lynch you tomorrow

 

Lol "tomorrow". Why not that day Tommy?

 

 

How can you be null on me

 

HOW

 

I think there is scum in the #alliance crew and I have both town and anti-town pings on you.  I don't like how you and Despo seemed to misinterpret Nol's posts right off the bat.  You've been actively scumhunting and very pro-town.  So null.  If I was forced to pick one way or another I'd say town lean based on the fact that your posts look genuine and you look more concerned with scumhunting than keeping yourself clean.

 

This is quite telling right here. Tommy asks TG why he's null on him... and TG really ends up saying he leans town. Only thing he points out bad against him was the awful early thing about me and Tommy misinterpreting Nol's posts. TG defends Tommy pretty strongly at the last bit.

 

I think the only one that is even in the ballpark of reason right now is TG, which is pretty weak since you can see I'm already getting @ him in the thread.

 

 

Des I see you've already got TG as part of your solve but I'd love comments on the discussion I just had with TG when you have a chance.

 

Tommy starts building up his "pressure" on TG. It was on page 64 btw, check it out for yourself. Tommy wasn't voting TG at this time btw.

 

I'm feelin it. I haven't done much Turin research myself but he's on my radar.

I'm thinking the lynch order should be Tina -> TG

We have about ~30 hours to secure the D2 lynch?

Would like to see more posts on Tina

 

Funny how when Salami was Tommy's top suspect, he kept saying lynch Salami first, TG second. Then when Salami lynch looks like it won't happen, Tommy says we should lynch Tina first, then TG. Almost too obvious, really.

 

TG's reads are downright idiotic. There isn't even much to gain a town lean on for AJ in the first place. At all. His play overall is pretty scummy and he's become the scummiest of all my current leans.

--

Lynch TG.

 

SP starts the wagon on TG.

 

If you guys can successfully get a CFD going I will join you.

 

Tommy says he will join it if others do..... yeah that's sketchy in retrospect. Town!Tommy would have just helped start the CFD himself and bandwagoned onto TG after nudging him for so long.

 

Chinese fire drill -- large vote movements. As in, if we get enough people on board to push the lynch through, I'm game to switch.

Given the time constraints, and the fact that people may not show up before EOD2, I am also fine lynching Tina, since either "T" is likely to strike scum.

 

Now linking Tina and TG.

 

Again, almost too obvious.

 

 

TG and Tina are both scum, I don't have a preference as to which goes down first

 

Links them again, and again states he has no preference which is lynched first (even tho earlier he apparently preferred Tina first, and still hadn't joined the wagon on TG)

 

Yet the TG wagon isn't taking off either despite many people agreeing he's been overtly scummy.

 

Lol says the TG wagon isn't taking off even tho he had just joined by this point. Again, obvious.

 

Tina, do please point out WHICH posts of TG's you have a problem with since he has "gotten more scummy."

 

Defends TG... even tho he's voting him and already has a scumread on Tina supposedly.

 

 

This is annoying. If both Tina and TG are in fact town (not that I am saying they are) that would mean I am way off. Is someone flying super low right now? Salami, Krak, Golden come to mind. All replaced or replacements though, which makes this more frustrating.

I could go for a Darthe/Krak Chinese fire drill actually. Have either of them done ANYTHING?

Darthe's gonna Darthe of course, but I would expect Krak to have at least tried to do something. Unless I missed some posts (easily possible), all I remember him doing is joke voting me asking if someone else (Tina?) was gonna actually make reads or something hypocritical like that.

Darthe "knowing" I'm town that early in the game (it was like page eight) is also a little weird.

Unvote TG

Vote Krak

 

Lol @ underlined. Now acts all exasperated like Tina and TG are suddenly town now. Eagerly switches off of TG wagon to a replacement who, admittedly, played like total crap once he joined.

 

-It makes no sense to me that he bothered to go through TG's posts to see what would spew Despot clear if TG was scum... yet doesn't actually think TG is scum. Don't think he can just soul read the two scummiest players ITT (Tina and TG) as town. More TMI, and also showing an unwillingness to concede Despot COULD be town.

Des is right, Turin is howling ITT.

Unvote Krak

Vote Turin

 

This came after a case I made on Turin. Funny thing is, Tommy now links TURIN to TG, making it the THIRD townie he has linked to TG that day, and yet he votes Turin instead of voting TG who would have apparently solved the game at that point for all the links Tommy made to other players. LAWLZ.

 

 

Think him checking TG's posts for spew instead of just saying "it doesn't matter because TG isn't scum" might spew TG scum if Turin is scum, which is a two for one deal.

Let's do this. Votes on Turin.

 

Moar linking of Turin and TG

 

Krak is either laughing like a loon on his end of the internet or is trying to get lynched tomorrow with the most hypocritical argument I've ever seen. And I've seen myself.

 

We're running out of time, are we gonna pick a wagon here?

 

This was like ~2 hours before deadline btw.

 

Seriously -- why are we not lynching Turin? Did you guys read the case Despot put together and my own thoughts on it?

 

And this came right after. In hindsight, this looks EXTREMELY like scum!Tommy desperately clinging to Turin lynch over TG at this point.

 

I am skeeved by Turin not even voting for self preservation here.

 

Krak is just openly clowning around.

 

Hilarity if we've outed all the scum already. 

 

Moar linking of Turin to TG, and last attempt to get others to join the Turin train instead of TG.

 

Unvote Turin

Vote TG

 

Falling asleep. Make sure one of them gets lynched.

 

Yeah def looks like a reluctant desperation busvote to me.

[hazelkrs1]

How many players are still alive? Six?

 

I assume that's 5v1 then

 

So that leaves one mislynch in the worst case before LyLo

 

But I know I'm town and we don't know for certain that you're town, and everyone else has been cleared within reason

 

By POE you're the last scum

 

We're just going through the motions now

 

I've been cleared "within reason" more so than anyone else not named Monk.

 

You're scum.

 

Analysis from my D2 stuff on Tommy: Tommy was linking TG to everyone and their sister that day, and funny how EVERY person he linked him to has now flipped town. And he CONSTANTLY kept TG as second on his suspect lynch, even tho his top suspect changed several times. CLASSIC scum move of linking a teammate to a townie and lynching the townie to try and make the teammate look better by association. Later on a wagon finally starts on TG, and yet instead of Tommy jumping on the wagon immediately, you know since he DID have TG as a high scumread for so long, he instead says he will join it if others do. Someone else hops on, Cory I believe, and Tommy AGAIN states he would be willing to join the TG train. Blatantly scummy right there.

 

Then he finally clings to the chance of a Turin lynch as long as possible before finally bussing TG. Yeahhhh....... yall really should freaking see this by now.

 

Getting his stuff /w Hallia, I looked through that before earlier, not much.

[hazelkrs1]

as i said des i was sus of you yesterday   the claim adds to it 

 

and tommy itd be 4 v 1 v1  cause cory can win either way

 

also tommys right its between you two

 

So you think that my character isn't in this game? That it?

 

Do me a favor then Dice. Go ahead and go here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Winter_Celchu

 

And then ctrl-F for "Thrawn". Yeah. She's in the freaking game bro. And I'm her, with her badass eidetic memory and everything.

[hazelkrs1]

Alright here's all the times Tommy ever mentions Hallia throughout the game.

 

As for SP and Monk...

SP is kinda like a fusion of Kronos and Salami...

Monk is like Hallia if Hallia never once made sense.

Hope that helps 

 

 

 

Does that mean his reads and instincts are very good too? Cause Hally's are usually crazy good. In what aspect is he like Hally?

 

In the way that he rarely contributes and when he does I think he's dead wrong lol

Maybe you know Hallia as crazy good, I haven't seen that from her but my sample size is limited

This is not a Hallia dis track btw, I don't even have my microphone 

 

Kinda besmirches Hallia somewhat, Hallia never responds to this fyi.

 

 

As of this second, people who are good scum candidates:

Tina

TG

Maybe Salami

 

People I would not lynch today:

Despot

Cory

Monk

Golden

SickPuppets

 

People I need to keep developing, in order of high to low suspicion of them:

Turin
AJ/Hallia

Kronos

Darthe/Krak

Pral

 

I'm sure someone will ask "why those people?" I'll try to consolidate my thoughts in the next few hours, a lot of it is still gut and tone based stuff as I've been focusing on a couple players more than the rest 

 

 

Lol I pointed out Tommy putting TG second on his suspect list alot D2, well guess where he puts the other flipped scum. LAWLZ.

 

Color me confused.

Turin and SP swear Tina is the shining example of a townie.

Des, myself, Pral, Hallia, Cory and others think she's sinking into a scum swamp.

I saw signs of towniness late D1 from her but that since vanished.

I have yet to see satisfactory (or any?) reasoning for why Tina should not be lynched.

Yet the TG wagon isn't taking off either despite many people agreeing he's been overtly scummy.

What is happening in this game? Did we catch all the scum already? Hearty lols if so.

 

Namedrops Hallia here amongst a group of others who found Tina scummy. Not sure if Hallia really did find Tina scummy at that point, I didn't go check for that. /shrug

 

I'm not going to pretend I can read Hallia. I have ever mislynched her or gotten her mislynched in every game we've played together. You guys do your thing, if she's scum, props. I think Krak is more likely to hit scum. At least Hallia has posted stuff, though I haven't bothered to read it; Darthe and Krak collective have done nothing but poorly distance from TG.

 

Lol says he can't read Hallia. Yet he pushed on her virtually every other game. This time he's just "deferring" to everyone else's read on her. LOL.

 

Obivscum.

 

And that's it. He never once quotes Hallia or asks her anything, or points out anything specific about her whatsoever.

 

So guess how many times Hallia mentions Tommy or responds to anything he says.

 

ONCE. And it's in a reads list post.

 

I hope to breathe some life into it!  Finally caught up, here are mah reads!  (Copied from my wordpad, so if it looks funky don't judge me!)

 

1. Des - Makes a good point regarding char. claims not saving anyone.  Posted Tom Hiddleston gif (I LOVE THAT MAN. YES PLEASE!)  I have a hard time reading Des normally.  He doesn't seem to be super scummy, not flying off the handle or anything like that.  But Peace's read on him makes me leery.  Not sure for now.

 

2. Darthe - Picked at Wolfie regarding his reasoning for voting Tina, then nothing, except that final vote on X. Scummeh for now.

 

3. Peace, Talon Karrde, Third-Party Survivor Mason, killed N1 - Was cruising along, droping a lazy vote for Nolder and then called out cory for wifoming Monk's opening post that hadn't happened (worried about partner?  See quote below.) Also says he has a town read on Despo during the Night.

 

4. Nol Xthrax, R2D2, Vanilla Town, lynched D1 - I would've voted him too, it did seem he was overreacting by dropping from game.  I sympathize with the whole gif spam thing though.

 

5. Tina - Popped in the game with a jab then popped out.  Also, for so early, how was Csarmi obvtown?  No one could say for sure, I agree totally with Wolfie there.  She then deflects questions of her activity by saying something about TG being quiet, as a way to shift the suspicion.

 

6. Monk - Never played with him, but haven't seen anything worth redeeming him.  Claimed Han Solo, so I'll withhold judgement for now.  Scummy play though.  Linked to Peace below?

 

7. Tommy - Typical aggressive self; made a good point at the time about Nolder being flippy floppy (Between lynching lurkers and then lynching spammers, he was the first I believe)  His normal aggressiveness seems tempered though, learning to balance the abrasiveness I think.  (Yaayyy <3  )

 

8. AJ Hally - Town, I'll make up for AJ's quietness!

 

9. TG - Mentioned something about Csarmi's spam but not anyone else's.  Why just him?

 

10. Turin - Checked in, voted Nolder with copied reasoning from everyone else, wishes he was home to post memes.  Why not actually play? Nudges Wolfie in a subtle defense of Tina.  What do you think of Tina's play, rather than going after Wolfie?  Fluffy meme posting continuing after this.

 

11. Csarmi - Claimed Ackbar - I like the way he takes his time with less experienced player (Wolfie) and actually tries to draw him out by asking questions instead of just poking at him to make him upset.  Makes an interesting post about peace playing both sides before the Peace flip. Good instincts!  (For the record, I think you've changed a lot from your early games, I find you a pleasure to play with )

 

12. corycurren - Never played with him, making lots of inside jokes with his friends, but does seem to actually scum hunt, so I have a town lean on him for now.

 

13. GE - Says 'intent to hammer' is a scum tell - I disagree, brings up some stuff about a previous game with Csarmi.  From what I know of Goldie's play is he's normally pretty active on the scum hunting, it could be not as prevalent due to his issues.  Don't let stuff bug ya and just have fun!

 

14. Pral - Popped in, made a comment about the game getting serious, and mentioned Despo overreaching about Csarmi, and that's it.  Need more Purr!

 

15. Kronos - Proud of him for actually going after someone! Voting Tina, makes a good point regarding her being positive on someone's alignment. Changes to Monk, who I can easily see as mafia.  Good good good vibes for now, (as one of my bffs, I'm so happy for you getting more into mafia!)

 

16. SickPuppets - Never played with, I agree with him point out Monk not really playing at all, but null for now.

 

And she has a townread on him. Cause of course she does.

 

 

So how about D4 when we actually lynched Hallia? Here are Tommy's posts (I think I grabbed them all honestly)

 

I'll come back to this one.

 

Nada

 

 

Thanks, Dice. I hope everyone will take a look at Des now. As I said, will be more active tomorrow.

But I love Des. He's also put more effort into this game than any I've seen him in recently.

 

Defending me from Tina

 

I have no words

And I am not even surprised

Monk why did you do that

Do you even know why?

 

Nudges the thing on Monk AFTER KRONOS AND HALLIA JUST VOTED HIM. This is actually a lot more important than I realized. Monk practically got the rest of the scum team to out themselves after his bizarro vote on Dice.

 

Can you say ANYTHING else about this? Like you have evidence Tina is scum or something?

 

Nudges Monk thing moar.

 

Tina, I think Des played a heavy game here, way more effort than I've seen him put in as scum personally, and while he COULD be scum, I'd still be surprised. But at the very least I know I am not scum, so I am wary of your Des-Tom solve that I know is at least half wrong.

 

What do you make of Monk's claim here? 

 

Defends me again to Tina. And also nudges Monk thing again. TELLING.

 

 

 

absolutely sure Dice is cop.

 

Check your PMs you might be scum

Monk is "pretty sure" about this

 

Moar nudging of it.

 

 

Excellent. We have a Cory that obviously don´t care about this game. Then we have a Monk that unfortunately doesn´t care about this game. Then we have a Tom that have quit playing as well. On top of that, Hally and Des have disappeared. Excellent. 

You sound like me in the clash of divinity game

Which means you probably are town for caring, regardless of Dice's result

I'm sorry my interest in this game fell off

It is moving slowly and I got sucked into more zany and furious games

Would you mind doing an ISO spoiler MQ of Monk's posts ITT for me? I wanna see if he's scum or just Monking around

Would like Cory's opinion as well

If Des does not come back and you are 100% confident he is scum I will go look at what he's done in this game. I remember the effort and not the stances

 

After strongly defending me all game, says he will revisit me if Tina is 100% on me. Lol that didn't take much Tommy.

 

Had to edit out Tommy's fluff posts from the day to fit this in one post. He fluffed alot tho, on a pretty important day for town.

 

 

Tommy Des and Cory - who are you gonna vote for.

I'm waiting for Des to post, he said he'd catch up tonight

 

Says he is now waiting for me to post... so apparently he's now ready to vote me. Tina hadn't made some epic case on me in the meantime btw. So Tommy went from HARD defending me to "Well if you're sure he's scum I'll revisit your stuff on him" to "I'm waiting till he posts, but I'm prob voting him" all in the span of a day. Yeah.

 

Vote Despot

I waited.

 

Anddddd his vote.

 

The Hallia lynch happens without him, so Tommy's next post is...

 

Still town, just not paying attention. Tina seems to be on point so I'll sheep your votes moving forward.

 

LOL. No mention of the scum flip on Hallia, no reaction to it, nothing. Again, obvious.

 

I'm declaring myself lock clear.

 

@ declaring himself lock clear after NOT being on the scum train. LAWLZ.

 

 

Tom, Cory, Des, top 3 scum reads plz.

I don't think we have 3 more.

By POE it's pretty much Des or Kronos or both.

You still think Dice is scum for some stupid reason?

 

One of the few times Tommy ever mentions Kronos fyi. I'll come back to this as well.

 

Well then.

Cory, you said you can win with town, right?

 

And this was the post right after Night 4 when Kronos was killed. Tommy - "Well then".

 

 

So two scum flips in a row, without Tommy remarking upon either one, and how he essentially ignored both throughout the entire game. DEF don't think town!Tommy would not react to that at all.

 

Also funny that Tommy in his first post of the day kinda throws a soft nudge/fos @ Cory... even tho he just had removed Cory from the lynch pool due to POE the night before.

 

Yeahhhhhh.....

 

I don't have any meta with Kronos, is he just kind of... level one? He has a point that Salami shouldn't be "obvious town" but his posts are all kinds of meh.

 

And btw I'm not gonna grab them all, but this was the gist of the 4-5 posts where Tommy actually mentions Kronos. Again just defers to the rest of town, doesn't ever attempt to get a read on either Hallia or Kronos throughout the game.

 

He's totes scum yall.

 

 

Abre los ojos. Open your eyes.

 

(badass film btw, the one "Vanilla Sky" was based on, easily my favorite Tom Cruise movie ever)

[hazelkrs1]

Okay, I'm done. If you're town and you still honestly think it's a good idea to vote me or KEEP your vote on me, I feel sorry for you. I truly do. Cause your mafia skillz are just fail. Tommy is scum. Laters mi amigos.

[Cory Caboose]

I've actually thought Tommy was Maf the whole game   

 

I even nudged SickPuppets at some point to reread Tommy's EOD on Night 2, but you can give me big NAH. I've talked about it in my masonchat but I believe peace and the mods have abandoned me :(

 

SickPuppets was a bad target, dice. He was clear as the person who gunned down TG D2 when Turin looked to be the lynch instead. But you've been otherwise open-minded so I'm okay with you as a humang.

 

Monk I do not know what you were doing this game but you did a good thing near the end so lolMonk.

 

Vote Tommy

 

let's finish this