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  On 1/27/2014 at 5:28 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

Back and catching up.

 

Did your catching up give any results or reads at all? Or is this you trying to lay low but still posting? Three posts but no game-related and no explanation for the abstinence. 

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  On 1/28/2014 at 12:23 AM, GoldeneyesND said:

I'd rather no lynch than mislynch someone I read as a townie. I'm not switching my vote to Err.

 

I get that you don't have a scum read, but what gave you a town-read on him? 

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The fact that i think his train is contrived. There's no reason for scum to push such a weak train on a scum player. The only reason would be if it's to save the person on the other train. In essence, Err's train feels very forced: that makes me feel good about Err and bad about TG. 

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  On 1/27/2014 at 11:39 PM, Xthrax said:

True, if a player does not post thoughts or reads it does not that help town. Now a question to you TG. Consider a player who has been caught up in something. Suppose, he has signed up for a mafia game but has fallen sick and can't do anything for that matter. Or he's at work/school all day, and doesn't really get time to log on to DM and play? Would you consider him as hurting town? Take the case of Krak. He hasn't posted really anything other than just reporting in. May have been busy by a totally valid reason for him, by he really didn't hurt town now, did he? Since on Day 1 there's a much larger number of player as compared to Day 3 or 4, people can be allowed leeway on Day 1. 

 

Also if someone didn't really have anything good to say, they have the  right to remain silent. Would rather harry them out, thereby leading to not that a great decision which could  affect town OR let them be quiet, observeand then make a good decision for the benefit of town?

 

 

To answer your question, if a player has IRL issues for a couple days, that is acceptable and understandable.  If a player has IRL issues that don't allow them to play the game for weeks then they need to ask to be replaced for the sake of the game. 

 

As for not having anything to say, I stated before a player who has a low post count but posts quality is fine by me.  But, someone who still can't form an opinion on anything after 12 pages isn't really playing the game, they are just coasting and being lazy.  I'd rather harry them and get them to say something instead of letting them continue to be lazy.   More information is always a good thing.

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  On 1/28/2014 at 12:33 AM, GoldeneyesND said:

The fact that i think his train is contrived. There's no reason for scum to push such a weak train on a scum player. The only reason would be if it's to save the person on the other train. In essence, Err's train feels very forced: that makes me feel good about Err and bad about TG. 

 

Ok, so, I'm only asking here... Since you think the train is contrived, assume there is scum on the train and based on these assumptions think its to save the other person on the train, you'd prefer us to not lynch so we start D2 without any info except a NK? Whats the logic behind that? Isn't it better to risk the shot in the dark, if nothing else just to have some hard backing on your own cases?

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unvote; vote TG

 

I disagree with the No Lynch idea. We are basically going to start where we left off on D2 if we don't find some kind of resolution here. The best way is to get a result on one of the wagons so we have a no-BS alignment to work off of to analyze the wagon with. TG has claimed VT and Err hasn't posted (which is likely a timezone issue) so I think this is the safer route although I disagree with it.

 

We've got 1 hour.

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  On 1/28/2014 at 1:02 AM, nervositee said:

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 12:33 AM, GoldeneyesND said:

The fact that i think his train is contrived. There's no reason for scum to push such a weak train on a scum player. The only reason would be if it's to save the person on the other train. In essence, Err's train feels very forced: that makes me feel good about Err and bad about TG. 

 

Ok, so, I'm only asking here... Since you think the train is contrived, assume there is scum on the train and based on these assumptions think its to save the other person on the train, you'd prefer us to not lynch so we start D2 without any info except a NK? Whats the logic behind that? Isn't it better to risk the shot in the dark, if nothing else just to have some hard backing on your own cases?

 

 

I agree that there is a lot of assuming there and that we are better off going into D2 with at least the coroner of a completed lynch than just a NK. I disagree with the shot in the dark assessment though. Err hasn't been on to claim and TG just claimed VT. This is the safer route at this junction.

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Honestly vos I believe both are valid arguments. A flip gives you info, a no lynch may save a townie. At this point I believe we will learn more from a TG flip than a no lynch so I'm fine testing his VT claim. If he's VT we can look at his interactions with other people (which I apologize for messing up) to see what we can learn from those. That's why it's important to be vocal as a VT, you're power is your ability to question and your vote, but your lynch also helps town a lot so they can confirm your theories as legit.

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It is always better to lynch than to no lynch.  A lynch is led by townies and has a chance of hitting scum.  A no lynch gives a kill away to scum and loses a chance for info.

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I agree. A mistaken lynch is still better than a no lynch-or we end up going into D2 with a NK, few other happenings and a lot of assumption leaving everyone as confused as before. TG has claimed a VT and yeah if Err is indeed living in United Arab Emirates, its approximately 5:15 am there. He must be asleep-so we get no claim from him.

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Analyze my train overnight, there are scum to be found. 

 

Basel has been having a scumburst all game, IMO. 

The case on Theo was weak. 

Des isn't doing much reasonable, but he is applying pressure.  town lean

Aj is being completely reasonable and stating fact.

Vos looks scummy with the buddying.

Tina could look scummy with nitpicking, but nothing really stands out.

Darthe is being Darthe, should probably be lynched tomorrow for Miller claim.  GE don't bother to investigate him, it would be a waste.

Yates...?  WBK...?

Krak needs to post.

The case on Err seems a bit weak and the setup talk wasn't much to go on.  I would expect town.

GE...no counter claim.

X looked scummy early on but recent posts are a bit better.

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  On 1/28/2014 at 1:20 AM, TGlems said:

Analyze my train overnight, there are scum to be found. 

 

Basel has been having a scumburst all game, IMO. 

The case on Theo was weak. 

Des isn't doing much reasonable, but he is applying pressure.  town lean

Aj is being completely reasonable and stating fact.

Vos looks scummy with the buddying.

Tina could look scummy with nitpicking, but nothing really stands out.

Darthe is being Darthe, should probably be lynched tomorrow for Miller claim.  GE don't bother to investigate him, it would be a waste.

Yates...?  WBK...?

Krak needs to post.

The case on Err seems a bit weak and the setup talk wasn't much to go on.  I would expect town.

GE...no counter claim.

X looked scummy early on but recent posts are a bit better.

 

And how did I look scummy earlier?

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Mostly in how reasonable most of the phrasing that you use sounds.  Either you're an incredibly reasonable person or you're being coached.  Backhanded compliment?

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This is a bit beside the point, but I wanna throw out a theory I just had, just so it's out there. I don't expect (or want) this to color any voting before DL now, but to make my peace. So, possible scenario: Golden is scum together with Err and one more. They read the setup/possible roles posted, but they have no Godfather. So they chance there is no cop either. Err drops a suspicious post on that there is a Godfather (which would warrant a Cop in the game). Golden then claims cop (which they now assume will go unclaimed) and takes on a leading role for town, dodging a lynch on his scum-mate and steering the game in his direction, obscuring it behind an aggresive meta/playstyle. Risky but if there isn't a cop in the game they have a big chance of getting away with it. 

 

Again, this might be far fetched, but it's a possible solution. Just laying it out there to avoid town narrowing their lines of sight and missing something. 

 

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Back to now, I still think both these trains stink, but I think TGs smell worse. And I hate that 11 votes are cast, and now Err landed at 4 and TG landed at 6, and Golden claiming he will rather have a no-lynch. Unless two people come in the next half hour and change their votes it'll be TG or no-lynch. I still think a no-lynch is a really bad idea, so I'm ready to hammer TG. 

 

Oh, but TG, saying that me claiming Golden was more riled up than you is hardly buddying enough to warrant a scum-tell IMO, but ok. 

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  On 1/28/2014 at 1:31 AM, TGlems said:

Mostly in how reasonable most of the phrasing that you use sounds.  Either you're an incredibly reasonable person or you're being coached.  Backhanded compliment?

 

I'd take that as a compliment. I'd like to go with incredibly reasonable person  :wink:  :laugh: . Nope no coaching. I wasn't actually aware that you can get coaches. I'll take a compliment however it is.

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Vos - The presence of a miller claim alone should indicate a cop as well, or else the miller's utility is just a red-herring. Or Darthe was lying.

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AJ, dang! True. Might be Golden, Err and Darthe playing a super-risk game? 

 

Ok, that gets too far fetched even for me at this point. Nvn for now. 

 

 

  On 1/28/2014 at 1:31 AM, TGlems said:

Mostly in how reasonable most of the phrasing that you use sounds.  Either you're an incredibly reasonable person or [...]

 

Omg, why haven't we lynched him long ago?  :huh:

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