[Basic] Christmas Mentors & Maffia

[csarmi]

It is now Night. You got 17 hours and 42 minutes to send me your actions, cause that's when day 5 is gonna start.

Timer: End of N4

[csarmi]

Which part of "do not post" you don't understand, Tommy?

[Tommyrod]

Which part of "do not post" you don't understand, Tommy?

 

The part where the townies are scummier than the mafia in this game. I'm just... whatever. 

 

Sorry. 

[csarmi]

Tommy has been silenced for the duration of the night.

[csarmi]

#sleepymodisgrumpy

 

night all

[csarmi]

(it is night 4, you may talk now)

 

I think I forgot to post the above.

[Blackhoof]

 

Go town.

[BFG]

717 probably clears Cloud as Town at this stage.

 

I think Nolder may have the team right after all.

 

Will be voting Peace tomorrow if game's still going on/I'm still around...

[Nolder]

 

 

I don't buy the RB theory Tommy.  It's a bad choice for scum to make.   Using that reasoning they'd be taking the risk of their role blocker getting lynched and then having no way to deal with Nolder.

 

If there is a scum role blocker, Nolder would be dead now.  Then it wouldn't matter which scum member got lynched.

Not true at all. Scum could be going for a frame job.

Which puts suspicion on Tommy imo for bringing it up in the first place.

 

 

These two statements don't seem to go together.  Can you explain further why you disagree with me.

 

If there is a roleblocker scum can block and kill me. Then I will be dead, but proven town doctor.

Instead, they could just block me and continue to kill whomever else they want. I am not clear so the question of whether I am lying will remain until I'm dead or the game is over. This will lead people to question, if I'm really the doctor, why the mafia isn't killing me if they are roleblocking me. The answer is to frame me and have the town do their job for them in the form of a lynch.

 

We still don't know that there is a roleblocker since I haven't been blocked as far as I can tell. But if there is one that would be a possible explanation for why I'm not dead. And why I think suspicion would be on Tommy since there was no mention of RBer before. As scum he may have kickstarted the conversation to discredit me and create the situation which I have just laid out for you.

[Nolder]

 

 

I think it makes sense because Via hasn't been in serious risk of being lynched yet, so they can afford to kill the confirmed town first, and her pattern of staying in the background also fits quite well to ensure she is the last one to be suspected.

 

It's a useless risk cause it buys you nothing.

 

We must come from very different worlds then. Have you seen Nolder in this game? The guy is borderline incompetent. He was on the way to getting lynched if he didn't claim, and the things he says are just... dumb. Worst case scenario for scum is Via gets lynched before they can kill Key -> BFG -> Nolder and then they have to guess on kills, just as they were probably doing before. Best case scenario is they kill everyone neatly or Nolder gets himself lynched for being a doofus. It makes awesome sense to me.

 

I may be crazy, I may be incompetent. But I am also consistent.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/68740-journey-to-dragon-mountain-mafia-game/?p=2229810

 

A game where I was lynched Day 1 as Doctor and did not claim.

[Nolder]

Annnnnd Via dropped the hammer on Hoof just as he starts putting up a struggle.

Suspicious. I fully admit I could be wrong about Tommy and Via could be the other mafia.

Or perhaps Via might be a survivor? That might fit a bit better and explain lower participation and flip flopping attitude.

[_CLOUD]

@Tom and Peace: I hope you have caught on to my hinting by now but in case you haven't I will come forward right now, I am the Survivor. This should go without saying but if you have a Roleblocker you should block and shoot Nolder tonight. There is no use in keeping him around anymore. If you kill him tonight we will have won the game.

[Nolder]

I hate survivors so much.

Why backstab the town? You could choose either side at this point.

[peacesells]

That means Tommy and Via are the last two scum. 

[peacesells]

717 probably clears Cloud as Town at this stage.

 

I think Nolder may have the team right after all.

 

Will be voting Peace tomorrow if game's still going on/I'm still around...

 

Cloud has claimed survivor.  Can't trust any of his reads now as he has sided with the scum team.

[_CLOUD]

I hate survivors so much.

Why backstab the town? You could choose either side at this point.

 

I was actually scum hunting for the entire game right until Day 4. I kept going back and forth between town and mafia on Hoof, and after a lot of consideration I decided that lynching him was the safest move for me to make. Ironically enough after I casted my vote on him he was actually starting to play more townie again. When he flipped town I decided that my chances of winning the game with the mafia were bigger than they were with the town so I chose to reveal at Night. It's nothing personal.

[csarmi]

...

 

The party started very well, but events took a strange turn. The gifts were nowhere to be found, more than half the people went home and now the host herself has disappeared. What next?

 

BF, Innocent Child is nowhere to be found.

 

...

 

It is now day 5. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

[csarmi]

You may talk.

[BFG]

Bah humbug!

[_CLOUD]

##vote Nolder

[Tommyrod]

Pssst. Cloud. You made a mistake.

[_CLOUD]

How so?

[Nolder]

So not only are you going to betray the town, but you're going to rub salt in my wounds by making me the sacrificial lamb?

Pretty lame dude.

 

Also I was on BFG last night so I can confirm there is a roleblocker.

Not that it matters anymore. :/

 

Well for what it's worth, once more unto the breach dear friends.

 

##Vote Peace

[csarmi]

Votecount 5.1

Nolder - 1 - Cloud
Peace - 1 - Nolder

[Tommyrod]

Your conclusion was wrong. I'm not mafia. I thought that was obvious.

 

With Cloud claiming, I guess the game is solved. I had a vague inkling you could be survivor but started thinking you were a hidden wolf after Hoof flipped.

 

Well done to Peace for his long game, I genuinely didn't suspect you due to your D1 but I should have realized you were mafia after you tunneled on Cloud for most of the game despite him not being a viable lynch. I was a little off about Via, Peace should be the mafia RB: both for being well hidden and for the NK on BFG who intended to vote for Peace.

 

Cloud, you can still win with town, so Cloud/Nolder: pick one of Via or Peace to vote for and let's finish this up (though admittedly, I think Peace could have earned a well deserved win had Cloud not claimed).

 

Overall, GG: despite the later town fails we had a solid D1 and players like Cloud, Turin, Key and Peace were dedicated and fun to play with. Would do again.