[Basic] The Circle Mafia - Game over

[Tommyrod]

 

Des kay hallu

Called it

Your list is wildly different from mine, with the exception of a maybe on Kay. Care to explain how you reasoned out these three?

 

I see we agree on Darthe being out of his typical range right now

 

Would anyone else here support a Darthe push? If nothing more than to get him invested in this game, but I genuinely do think he's >rand to be mafia here

 

Darthe

[John E. Kelley]

Expect I'm town

Oh, well since you said it, it must be true.

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

Des kay hallu

Called it

Your list is wildly different from mine, with the exception of a maybe on Kay. Care to explain how you reasoned out these three?

I see we agree on Darthe being out of his typical range right now

 

Would anyone else here support a Darthe push? If nothing more than to get him invested in this game, but I genuinely do think he's >rand to be mafia here

 

Darthe

I'm on the fence with him so I wouldn't be opposed to it. For now though I'll leave my vote on Cloud. I think he might be scum and I'd at least like to hear from him.

[Tommyrod]

He *could* just be bored but I think he's bullshitting and coasting 

He literally said "why is inactivity scummy?" to someone

Yet he's voting hallu because he "forgot he was in the game"



Move some votes onto Darthe

[Kaylee]

Where did he say that?

[Tommyrod]

Where did he say that?

 

Oh, I get it. I thought the search for posts thing showed only this thread but it was a post he made in a different game. SORRY, NOT ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE

 

The rest stands though

[Kaylee]

I agree with the rest.

[dicetosser1]

Luci everyone else was commenting on ure Dice comment and not Dice cause Dice was at work. I got the joke at the start. Hence me playing too. I can see why people questioned you choice of words but to me it was as obvious a joke as voting the mod D1.

 

Kaylee I did say it. I thought she was stretching with her arguments on Golden.

 

My reads

 

Kaylee is town

 

Luci is town

 

These 2 are because if they had a QT they woulda got suggestions at various times about their posts and changed some things.

 

I think Darthe may be the Survivor. Yes his behaviour is = to that of bored Darthe  but its also a ghood way to stay unlynched.

 

Ishy and Des fall into the  "I never trust them unless I cop viewed them myself and then I assume they are the GF" category Ishy hasnt said a lot and while Des seems town to me he has sucked me in too many times for trust.

 

Cloud ALWAYS seems scummy     to me and everyone else. The only time i got a bead on Cloud i was the Oracle and he was my lover.

 

I think Key is mafia. hence the vote

 

Tommy im not sure on at all, tho i get way luci voted him.

 

Krak...jumped a vote straight on me with what? his second post?  yet has no reason. leaning mafia on him but only cause of that   he hasnt done anything for anyone to see otherwise

[hazelkrs1]

 Des you need to step your game up if you're town, this looks completely bonkers stupid to me and I am reading it for the first time

 

If I stepped up my game anymore the maf team would just whine about the game being imbalanced cause I wasn't scum with them

 

 

 

If stepping out has no bearing on alignment...why not vote Golden's replacement? It seems like you're concerned with how you are viewed and I'm getting a scum vibe here.

Wow, are you serious with this?

 

Stepping out doesn't matter, but PLAY does.  I am not going to vote Krak based on his predecessor's play.  

 

You also thought Golden was scummy and voted him, so where is your vote on Krak?    Oh, that's right.  You said:

 

 

Was suspicious of Golden...but as he's been replaced will allow Krak to speak. Krak please participate!

 

 

Hypocrite.

 

Also, I am doing an ISO on you because darthe specifically ASKED me for thoughts on you and rather than jumping at something just because of a few posts (which bit me earlier in the game), I wanted to look at all your posts.

 

For your reference:

 

 

Back to the fun?

 

Hey Key, I think you're town. What did you think of Kaylees reactions in the last few pages? I found them to be poor and my forming rhoughts on her are becoming quickly escalated by how universally ignored those reactions are.

 

 

 

!!!! Noice! Found a major scumtell! (emphasis mine btw)

 

Starting off any defending post with "Wow, are you serious of this?" is one of the strongest scumtells in the book.

 

Obvious scum here, people!!!

 

My guess for scum:  des, dice, and now possibly kay.  Still have to go back and look at people.  Got busy at work this morning.

 

And my guess is out of that group Dice is the teammate you felt obligated to add. Easy guess tbh, since I know I'm town

 

Yeah, I argued against it because of this post:

 

GE stepping out of the game makes me feel he was Town, were he scum, he would have had his scummates calming him down in the QT. Same with Aid, so that being said, for now I feel alright about Krak and Tom. I know I'm Town, so there's three Town leans right there for me.

 

 

 

He should not be auto cleared because he stepped out.

 

Okay, I'll go through your post on me then and comment.

 

Ishy never said he was auto-cleared... twist words more please?

 

Ishy responded and said he never said auto-cleared, but that he felt GE was town. Key word there being "felt", as in a feeling, not a sure as stone strike it in the earth autoclear.

 

And then Key responded by saying "yeah, that doesn't autoclear him"

 

*eyebrow ridge pinch*

 

 

My guess for scum:  des, dice, and now possibly kay.  Still have to go back and look at people.  Got busy at work this morning.

Thinking this is a rule of threes thing

 

Dice is scum and the other two aren't

 

Admittedly I still haven't read half the thread but this pinged me just now.

 

Kaylee seems genuine and Key seems angry.

 

/gut reads

 

 

I like your gut reads.

 

Btw I'm a dude.

 

Darthe seems really disinterested since mid game which is not what I am used to with him

Ishi is floating pretty heavy as well

 

You guys aren't making this game easier :/

 

 

Actually, this is Ishy at his finest (no offense Ishy). He normally doesn't have a ton of lengthy scumhunting type posts. Plays by intuition, ignores all the bells and whistles. He's like The Who's Tommy of DM Mafia.

 

Darthe otoh has acted this disinterested in all his games lately. Doesn't give him a free pass in this one however.

 

Screw finishing the read before I place a vote. I'm on page 20.

 

 

vote dice

 

Sorry Krak, but Tommy's catchup posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your catchup posts.

 

I find it funny that every one is commenting on my Dice comment except Dice himself. 

 

Is everyone commenting on that? I don't remember commenting on that. I could give two flips about that post.

 

 

Hmmm. Post your current reads list of each player, with explanations for each.

 

I don't have to, I made my decision. You pretty much admitted to being scum

 

 

 

 

Wow, is that supposed to make me feel bad or panic or something? Nothing for me to panic about, if you lynch me you''ll be lynching another townie, Good luck with that.

 

 

Why do you assume I'm town? 

 

 

 

He was clearly showing that you might have known him to be town, which would likely make you scum. He wasn't admitting to being scum.

 

Not sure if this is a newbie mistake or a OMGUS vote (wasn't Tommy voting Luci at the time?)

 

I was joking with Dice, you all jumped down my throat for it. 

 

Wow. You seem REALLY defensive about that post. "You all"? "Jumped down" your "throat"? I think like 2 people commented on it initially iirc.

 

Right now you all are scum to me. I go back to my original statement. 

 

Everyone is guilty.

 

There's a player in SG who says something like this everytime they end up being mafia. Leaning scum on you from these last few posts Luci.

 

So who am I lynching and why?

 

Yourself, and to save us the trouble.

 

Hallu has been prodded for more activity. If he doesn't post before deadline is up, I will replace him with the next town player that dies. We cannot afford trying to find another fresh replacement and wait for them to catch up. I know everyone hates recycling of players but I hope you understand.

 

Why not just modkill him?

 

Unless you modkill.

 

 

You could always modkill.

 

^These people get it

 

Oh, I get it. I thought the search for posts thing showed only this thread but it was a post he made in a different game. SORRY, NOT ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE

 

The rest stands though

 

Protip: a great way to iso here at DM is to go to the thread you want to search through, click on the magnifying glass in the top right corner (on full site, not mobile) and leave the field blank btw. On the next page, put the person's name you want to iso in the "Find Author" field, it has to be exact however. Then you also prob wanna list then as posts, not topic lists. Then hit submit and BOOM, tough acting tenactin a great iso method.

[hazelkrs1]

Scum reads: Key (obvious), Dice, Cloud, Luci

 

Feels like Cloud hasn't posted in a while btw. Cloud, what are your thoughts on all the players still alive?

[michellem]

Would anyone else here support a Darthe push? If nothing more than to get him invested in this game, but I genuinely do think he's >rand to be mafia here

 

Darthe

 

I see we agree on Darthe being out of his typical range right now

 

Please unvote before placing a new vote ;)

[Tommyrod]

Okay thanks for the iso tip Des I'll use that later

 

 

Unvote Luci

 

Vote Darthe

[Tommyrod]

I still think Luci is scum, but we have like 48 hours left, right? I want Darthe to either slip or contribute so I don't spend the rest of the game worrying about what he is 

[_CLOUD]

And I disagree with it meaning GE was town. Steppi g out has no bearing on alignment. Scum players can get just as mad and sub out, regardless whether their scummates try to calm them down. If you notice, there's not a lot of time between his posts where he's here and then has asked for a sub. It's entirely possible f he is scum, that he didn't even go to the QT until after he asked for one. Town players and mafia players alike get upset and ask for a sub. Heck, could have even been because he thought there was no way out of looking scummy.

 

I agree with Key. Mafia will do whatever they can to win a game, so you should never make the mistake of thinking in the lines of "mafia wouldn't do that" because a good player would do just that what you don't expect him to do.

 

Scum reads: Key (obvious), Dice, Cloud, Luci

 

Feels like Cloud hasn't posted in a while btw. Cloud, what are your thoughts on all the players still alive?

 

Kaylee: I had a scum read on her for the majority of the game so far. Golden voting for her at the start of Day 2 made me started to doubt my read on her, but it was probably a vote to distance from each other. It would also explain why he had a town read on her during Day 1, and later on claimed that he was reading her as scum. I also think her case on Key was weak and it's interesting how she suddenly thinks she is Mafia while she has also been following her around since Day 1.

 

Hallu: No idea. He hasn't posted much of anything.

 

Ishy: I always have a difficult time reading him because he has a tendency to not explain his reads, and when he does they are also quite brief. I tend to have a town read on him, but I disagree with his reads about Key and Luci so I'm still on the fence about him.

 

Key: She made a couple questionable moves, but she has been actively scumhunting and I happen to agree with a lot of her posts, and I especially like her play since Day 2. I have a town read on her.

 

Tom: Nice catch-up posts. I haven't played with him before, but so far he looks pretty townie to me.

 

Dice: I have found his play to be questionable. He has been voting for people with in my opinion thin reasonings in mind, and even though he just posted a list with his thoughts on each player it doesn't really tell me anything about his thought process which I find scummy.

 

Cloud: Town.

 

Darthe: Dunno. He doesn't seem very interested in this game. I agree with his vote on Kaylee though.

 

Luci: I have a newbie Town read on her. Things like her vote on Tom because she thinks he slipped up and admitted to be Mafia give me a feeling that she isn't faking her reads.

 

Krak: Replaced Golden who I had a scum read because of his contradicting statements and his vote on AJ. Scum read.

 

Des: Town read. His play has been a bit more sloppy then when he's mafia, as can be seen in his casing of AJ where he kept misreading stuff. He also been fluffing around a bit more than usual but this doesn't really say much.

 

 

So I could go for Kay, Krak, and Dice. I'm still unsure about Ishy and Darthe. Hallu should be replaced, policy lynched or modkilled if she isn't willing to play anymore.

 

 

Unvote. Vote Kay

[_CLOUD]

Apologies for my absense btw. I will be more active from now.

[Tommyrod]

Cloud's post seems reasonable on the surface but is shallow if you dig into it.

 

First paragraph is about mafia WIFOM -- whatever.

Second implies that Kaylee couldn't change her mind about Key... I think her Kaylee's thought process has been pretty transparent in this game. I can go back and look for Kaylee's thoughts on Key, but I agree that Key is hella suspicious so this isn't a point against Kaylee. It is a point against Cloud for making a really flat argument at this point in the game, though. You should have more on the person you're voting than "Kaylee changed her mind."

The rest of it tells us almost nothing. "Town lean, scum lean, I always thought XYZ was scum," etc.

 

Most notably, though, are the people he doesn't suspect:

Darthe [No]

Key [No]

Luci [He claims a noob town read; is Luci a noob? I will have to re-assess if so]
Des [i agree]

But he's got suspicion of basically everyone else. This many players with only 3 town leans and 1 "I dunno, LOL DARTHE?"

 

Doubt it. Sounds more like keeping his options open for mislynching. Who else did that? Oh yeah, Luci.

 

Cloud/Luci/Darthe team is possible if Dice is very inexperienced or always seems scummy in these games.

[Tommyrod]

If I was Cloud and I was a townie I would try to dig up Krak's posts and convince people why he's scum, not just follow Darthe's vote on Kaylee and shrug about there being a scum out in the open (Krak) that nobody is talking about. I think Cloud is a big stinkin' faker.

[Tommyrod]

It could still be Cloud/Luci/Dice, I'm not dead set on Darthe being scum, I think it's >50% chance though.

[Tommyrod]

Luci everyone else was commenting on ure Dice comment and not Dice cause Dice was at work. I got the joke at the start. Hence me playing too. I can see why people questioned you choice of words but to me it was as obvious a joke as voting the mod D1.

 

Kaylee I did say it. I thought she was stretching with her arguments on Golden.

 

My reads

 

Kaylee is town

 

Luci is town

 

These 2 are because if they had a QT they woulda got suggestions at various times about their posts and changed some things.

 

I think Darthe may be the Survivor. Yes his behaviour is = to that of bored Darthe  but its also a ghood way to stay unlynched.

 

Ishy and Des fall into the  "I never trust them unless I cop viewed them myself and then I assume they are the GF" category Ishy hasnt said a lot and while Des seems town to me he has sucked me in too many times for trust.

 

Cloud ALWAYS seems scummy     to me and everyone else. The only time i got a bead on Cloud i was the Oracle and he was my lover.

 

I think Key is mafia. hence the vote

 

Tommy im not sure on at all, tho i get way luci voted him.

 

Krak...jumped a vote straight on me with what? his second post?  yet has no reason. leaning mafia on him but only cause of that   he hasnt done anything for anyone to see otherwise

Gold: Oh, I forgot that was a thing. Okay then. He's probably that.

 

Blue: More mislynch setup based on meta and garbage

 

Orange: Giving his scumbuddy a free out 

 

Red: Lol, I'd love for you to explain it to me then. 

 

Cyan: More suspicion on Krak with little to no reasoning (like Cloud) 

 

Very bad post, Cloud/Dice connection is clear here, they have groupthink going on in a way that is not genuine

[michellem]

Official Vote Count:

Key (1): Des, Dice
Hallu (1): Darthe
Dice (1): Krak
Cloud (1): Kaylee
Tom (1): Luci
Darthe (1): Tom
Kaylee (1): Cloud


With 11 alive, 6 is needed to achieve a lynch.
Not Voting (5): Hallu, Ishy, Key, Dice,

Deadline 2am Saturday GMT+1 http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131214T02&p0=1375&msg=End+of+D2

 

Going out to shop for Christmas presents, if I'm not back in 8 hours, presume that I've died at the mall and game over

[_CLOUD]

@Tom: What do you find suspicious about Key

 

And yes, this is Luci's first game and Dice also tends to be scummy regardless of his allignment.

 

 

If I was Cloud and I was a townie I would try to dig up Krak's posts and convince people why he's scum, not just follow Darthe's vote on Kaylee and shrug about there being a scum out in the open (Krak) that nobody is talking about. I think Cloud is a big stinkin' faker.

 

 

I have already explained my scum read on Golden, and Krak hasn't done anything except made a vote against Dice. I'm not following Darthe, I have voiced my suspicion about Kay during Day 1 and I don't like to unnecessarily repeat myself when everyone can easily look up my case on her. Her play during Day 2 hasn't done anything to make me reconsider my read on her, and has instead only been more of the same I pointed out her doing during Day 1 like being hypocritical, and trying to argue semantics when she is called out for it. 

[_CLOUD]

Examples of Kay acting hypocritical and arguing semantics:
 
 

 

 

I agreed with what Key pointed out about Golden. That's it for this day phase.

 
Bad post. You get called out for following Key, so solidify your stance in following her? Not good at all.

 

I'm not going to lie about agreeing with her no. I wasn't following her. I agreed with what she pointed out and decided it was worth noting. I then voted Golden because of that, yes, and because he seemed likeky scum to me.

 

 
Agreeing with someone else's case, and then voting for a person because of it is the definition of following someone.
 
 

Not a hypocrite Key. You stated his leaving didn't speak to his alignment...I let it drop because I always let the replacement speak for themselves. I'm not saying you can't. It was that you argued against the alignment. That wasn't my only reason either. I'm getting a scum vibe from you so I voted you.

 
The only difference between you and Key in this situation is that she voiced her opinion, while you kept quiet about it and made the age old argument of wanting to let the replacement speak for themselves.

[Tommyrod]

I'm on my phone now and can't find the bold setting

 

But I want to vote for Cloud and wrap this round up

 

Cloud/Dice/Luci scum team. Ship it.

[Tommyrod]

Luci being brand new only supports my Luci/Dice scum team theory because Luci at the moment she told Dice to stop being fluffy or whatever had pretty much zero reason to be thinking about Dice or tell him to contribute

 

Cloud/Dice connection is apparent in their big useless mislynch option lists and they both thought Luci is town iirc

[_CLOUD]

*sigh*