MAFIA - **STARGATE SG1** - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

I really should have claimed yesterday morning. I can do so soon, hopefully.

And in this post was out of the question because....?

  

Not now, not at night. That'd be antitown IMO.

 

so here's you demanding a claim you knew you wouldn't get.

 

and here's you not getting it.

 

what soft claim?

[csarmi]

Cindy, by soft claim I meant:

 

"Ehm I had dumb brains this morning"

"I should have claimed sooner"

"I can hopefully claim soon"

"Oh no, not at night, that'd be anti-town"

 

All that after the lynch.

Dap's play is weird to me by the way. Dap, what do you think Basel should have done? The way I see it, he had no way out.

 

- He doesn't claim or claims no PR, he gets vigged.

- He claims a PR, he gets shot my maffia.

 

So what is he supposed to do with a strong PR (I consider watcher very good) in hand?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

dap wanted to make sure not to waste the kill on someone he could easily get lynched. a VT claim wouldn't have saved Basel from a lynch but I bet it would have spared him a bullet.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

and vig shooting someone who didn't claim when he started getting run up, who went out of his way to play scummy and protect his role, and who would have had to claim today in any case but would have had results for us was in no way a town play.

 

it was arrogant scum play. or pure egotism.

[dapianoplay3r]

 

 

I really should have claimed yesterday morning. I can do so soon, hopefully.

And in this post was out of the question because....?

  

Not now, not at night. That'd be antitown IMO.

 

so here's you demanding a claim you knew you wouldn't get.

 

and here's you not getting it.

 

what soft claim?

 

 

 

 

I cant wait anylonger

 

submitting the shot

Id already sent it in

 

I would of shot him for a VT claim. If he had claimed PR i would of shot the lowest poster

 

So if I follow your two choices i must be bad town, cos if i were mafia id have no reason to claim that kill

 

 

Now the reason I shot basel is cos he didnt claim during the day when he should of then didnt when he appeared back. By the time he came and dropped hints it was too late.

I thought, at the time, he was avoiding claiming to try postpone having to make something up.

 

Haha edit for the posts

Im arrogant, not on an ego trip. and you can play scummy to avoid attention from mafia but he didnt claim when it was required. He almost got lynched.

 

So please explain how it was mafia play? Cos i could of not told anyone that i shot him and got no heat, I could of said I chose to hold my shot and been glossed over (relatively).

 

However your reaction is exactly what i expect from scared mafia. Kill the vig, hes a threat

[Basel Gill]

Bah.

[Basel Gill]

Bah.

[Basel Gill]

Bah.

[hazelkrs1]

Not sure what to think right now. Gonna do a reread later I think.

[csarmi]

Dap, please answer me just one question:

 

How on earth was Basel supposed to live through the night given that he had a Watcher role?

[dapianoplay3r]

Dap, please answer me just one question:

 

How on earth was Basel supposed to live through the night given that he had a Watcher role?

A full claim would of drawn a doc protect potentially

It would of removed my shot for sure

 

An earlier soft claim would of probably been here enough for me to notice and not shoot. However potentially it would of also got the mafia's attention.

 

There was no second kill so the mafia may of gone for him anyway?

 

Last he could of stayed around at the deadline and not disappeared. That was the main reason i really thought him scummy tbh

[dapianoplay3r]

Simply put no, probably not

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

how is it not scum play to use a kill that way?

 

you try to push someone to claim at your command in the night, make a demand you know he can't and shouldn't cave to, and use the whole thing as an excuse to shoot someone I think you knew was town, and were pretty sure was a pr.

 

and if you were a vig, who are you to force ppl to dance for your amusement? you get a gun, and it's a license to play the game like you have your hand up all our puppet holes?

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

Dap, please answer me just one question:How on earth was Basel supposed to live through the night given that he had a Watcher role?

A full claim would of drawn a doc protect potentiallyIt would of removed my shot for sureAn earlier soft claim would of probably been here enough for me to notice and not shoot. However potentially it would of also got the mafia's attention.There was no second kill so the mafia may of gone for him anyway?Last he could of stayed around at the deadline and not disappeared. That was the main reason i really thought him scummy tbh

you've played with him often enough to figure out he can't stay around for a weekday deadline.

[dapianoplay3r]

how is it not scum play to use a kill that way?

 

you try to push someone to claim at your command in the night, make a demand you know he can't and shouldn't cave to, and use the whole thing as an excuse to shoot someone I think you knew was town, and were pretty sure was a pr.

 

and if you were a vig, who are you to force ppl to dance for your amusement? you get a gun, and it's a license to play the game like you have your hand up all our puppet holes?

Yup the vig shot gives me exactly that right. In the game you can use what you have however you want. I like being in control. Without the shot i would of still pressed him, however not till tomorrow cos I would of needed a case and im still doing my assignment (60 pgs so far and almost done!)

And i was/am a vig. There is a kill, that was shot. Its as confirmed as you can get to be a vig for now.

 

I didnt know he was town, and i didnt know he was a PR (all you have is my word of when i sent in my kill though)

 

And basel not being around for the deadline is even more reason why his lack of a claim was odd.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

you wouldn't have had to case him, he was going to get run up today.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

and yeah, one kill, and a question hanging from yesterday on whether there could be two viges in a game.

 

lots of advice that if there was another vig they should shoot you.

 

of course if you drew a doc protect with that show, or had some other protection, that shot wouldn't have gone through.

 

you're not confirmed anything.

 

so you know, I'm going to work now. sometimes I can post and sometimes I can't.

 

enjoy.

[csarmi]

Cindy - I was also convinced that Basel was scum because he made sure to disappear before deadline without a claim when it was quite evident that he was a main lynch target. That's just too scummy.

 

Also, I'd have shot him myself too, especially on a Vanilla claim.

 

Dap - yea, I give you that. A full claim might have worked - if he made it early enough. Not sure why you couldn't wait longer by the way.

[dapianoplay3r]

and yeah, one kill, and a question hanging from yesterday on whether there could be two viges in a game.

 

lots of advice that if there was another vig they should shoot you.

 

of course if you drew a doc protect with that show, or had some other protection, that shot wouldn't have gone through.

 

you're not confirmed anything.

 

so you know, I'm going to work now. sometimes I can post and sometimes I can't.

 

enjoy.

 

Now this is very very interesting

did your NK fail on me cindy?

There could well be another vig, always possible. However I really do doubt that i was doc protected. No doc should of risked themselves to protect a vig. That been stated in more than one game this week.

 

I love how threatened you are by my vig shot. I really hope you are mafia and you all are this worried cos i would feel so justified

Wanna guess how many shots I have cindy? cos I never said it was just one.....

 

Cindy - I was also convinced that Basel was scum because he made sure to disappear before deadline without a claim when it was quite evident that he was a main lynch target. That's just too scummy.

 

Also, I'd have shot him myself too, especially on a Vanilla claim.

 

Dap - yea, I give you that. A full claim might have worked - if he made it early enough. Not sure why you couldn't wait longer by the way.

I work at a bar on the weekends. I posted that during by break at 8 or so in the evening and I didnt expect to be back on till noon the next day. I thought if I didnt send it in soon I would miss the night (mods dont tend to wait on vig shots cos people often dont shoot)

I didnt expect night to last so long or I would of held off

[Pralaya]

Dap made a mistake - there could be very reasons - but I don't see any scummy play in that. This whole argument is pointless because it is not going to get us back Basel now. 

 

Anyway, two trains on Day 1 and both of them were town. Now my case that I made Day 1 really sounds more and more true (http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/84776-mafia-stargate-sg1-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3036162) . 

 

vote Wombat

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

right dap, I'm sure scum is very worried about the game right now.

 

I'm not saying anything today I didn't say yesterday.

 

you're not dumb. you knew as well as me there were at least two possibilities he didn't claim before the DL, and one of them would have been to protect a PR. wombat hinted at that as his reason for not wanting an RTE lynch. it made sense and it's certainly not news to you. but RTE was here to claim, and if he'd done that early enough pray or berf would likely have gotten lynched.

 

and I have no doubt you have more shots. one NK a night.

 

prays still higher in my scum list that you, because I think you are enough of an ego to try to play a role this way. but like I said yesterday, I think it's a lot more likely you're plain old scum.

[dapianoplay3r]

I do love to play as mafia in the spotlight but this is not one of those times.

 

I am really enjoying watching you spin the one kill last night to try get me lynched. That missed NK last night really irks you doesnt it?

[dapianoplay3r]

sorry to everyone else. I realise this interaction must be annoying but im having so much fun

[csarmi]

sorry to everyone else. I realise this interaction must be annoying but im having so much fun

No way! I'm having fun reading this. Keep it up!

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

if I was trying to get you lunched I might actually be voting you. I still might, and your overreaction to the suggestion your play has a better scummy explanation than a town one without a single vote on you might get me there.

 

I've seen you play exactly this way as scum, Mrs. Indy. drive those sheep over the cliff again and again. it surprised me that it worked then, it won't this time.