DPR Mafia - The Dark Monocle - Game Thread

[John McClane]

Leelou - who do you think Meesh should kill?

 

I'll answer shortly, I want to know something first.

 

Meesh, was the tracker active and posting during the Wombat lynch?

Yes. And pushed for the lynch, too. And has a crappy defense for not mentioning the tracking. You (the tracker, not Leelou) tracked Wombat on N4--I went back and checked the dates. There WAS a conversion that night. Link to scene here. You didn't even say who you tracked after N4. Also, last night there WAS a conversion, so I dunno what you're on about. The only conversion that didn't happen during the night was the first one, so you have no excuse.

 

Hmm...You know what. I've made my decision. I don't believe the tracker. Should I shoot the tracker or Verbal? I think Verbal's more likely to be the converter. It'd be safer for me to shoot him; if he's not the converter we can lynch the "tracker" tomorrow. Who would you rather jail? I'll name names if you choose to jail the tracker.

 

 

So is your thinking that the so-called tracker is the converter? Or Verbal? I have to assume NotBob is an automaton.

 

So it comes down to Verbal and this tracker. I'm happy to jail whomever of the two that you decide not to shoot. You said your shot 100% goes through, correct? No chance of it failing? So if either of these 2 is the converter - this approach should prevent another conversion.

 

Tina did say that Verbal had a vest, so we have to be 100% sure he'll die if you shoot him.

[John McClane]

I didn't track Wombat night 2. and I don't remember seeing a conversion for the scene from last night. A lot went on with me this weekend and I'll admit to skimming all the back and forth crap between Ape and Meesh.

 

Shoot me I don't care. This damn game is giving me a headache anyway.

 

 

Ah, why am I not surprised you are the so-called tracker.

 

Like I said earlier, I said that I was going to jail Verbal, and JLM and Verbal both tried to goad me into jailing NotBob instead. Put words in my mouth about how I said I thought NotBob was converter, I never did though.

 

Okay, Meesh - If you know 100% your shot will take out Verbal, then you shoot him. I will jail JLM. Then tomorrow we lynch Not Bob.

[mmeeshal]

Well, I'd say I'm 100% positive, but it's more like 99.99%. I was pretty positive my kill would go through on Crusher, but I had to check just to make sure. I'm sure Wes is sick of me asking him questions when it all should be perfectly clear...but I've never asked if there is anything that can stop my kill, so that's probably something I should check on first.

 

So hold the phone on that. I'm PMing Wes now.

[JenLenaMom]

I didn't track Wombat night 2. and I don't remember seeing a conversion for the scene from last night. A lot went on with me this weekend and I'll admit to skimming all the back and forth crap between Ape and Meesh.

 

Shoot me I don't care. This damn game is giving me a headache anyway.

 

 

Ah, why am I not surprised you are the so-called tracker.

 

Like I said earlier, I said that I was going to jail Verbal, and JLM and Verbal both tried to goad me into jailing NotBob instead. Put words in my mouth about how I said I thought NotBob was converter, I never did though.

 

Okay, Meesh - If you know 100% your shot will take out Verbal, then you shoot him. I will jail JLM. Then tomorrow we lynch Not Bob.

 

 

Pretty sure I never said Notbob was the converter, or that you said he was. Quote me and show me where I did. YOUR case against Womby may have been him been the converter, but I felt he was scummy, whether that meant converter or some other role I never really thought too much about, scum needs to die for us to win. All that you announcing on thread who you're going to jail does is give the mafia a chance to holster and make me look bad. You can't rattle me just by throwing accusations my way. I'm town, yes i'm the tracker and so maybe I missed the fact that there was a conversion last night, do you really think if I was trying to orchestrate a ploy that Womby was the converter instead of me I wouldn't have made up a better story than that?

[DPR]

If you are a Vig, please let me know if you intend to shoot or holster.

[mmeeshal]

All right guys, going for it. If Verbal's still alive in the morning we have to lynch him.

[Christine]

No idea what's going on here, but I vote for Ape's death.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

No idea what's going on here, but I vote for Ape's death.

 

For once you and I agree.

[John McClane]

I didn't track Wombat night 2. and I don't remember seeing a conversion for the scene from last night. A lot went on with me this weekend and I'll admit to skimming all the back and forth crap between Ape and Meesh.

 

Shoot me I don't care. This damn game is giving me a headache anyway.

 

 

Ah, why am I not surprised you are the so-called tracker.

 

Like I said earlier, I said that I was going to jail Verbal, and JLM and Verbal both tried to goad me into jailing NotBob instead. Put words in my mouth about how I said I thought NotBob was converter, I never did though.

 

Okay, Meesh - If you know 100% your shot will take out Verbal, then you shoot him. I will jail JLM. Then tomorrow we lynch Not Bob.

 

 

Pretty sure I never said Notbob was the converter, or that you said he was. Quote me and show me where I did. YOUR case against Womby may have been him been the converter, but I felt he was scummy, whether that meant converter or some other role I never really thought too much about, scum needs to die for us to win. All that you announcing on thread who you're going to jail does is give the mafia a chance to holster and make me look bad. You can't rattle me just by throwing accusations my way. I'm town, yes i'm the tracker and so maybe I missed the fact that there was a conversion last night, do you really think if I was trying to orchestrate a ploy that Womby was the converter instead of me I wouldn't have made up a better story than that?

 

 

I never said you called NotBob was the converter, I said you implied that I believed that. Which wasn't true. Quote coming.

 

Also, the converter needs to die for the town to win, otherwise town doesn't improve its position. 1-2 deaths per night, plus a conversion. Anyone that doesn't understand that the converter needs to die asap, isn't pushing a town agenda.

 

The rest of this post is pathetic, not responding to it...

 

In retrospect, Wombat was town but you are the one who was crowing that he had to be the converter. We agreed with your arguments. Along with our own suspicions of how he had played all game. Don't back pedal now and claim someone else was pushing this lynch, because that is the scummy. You're certain it's Not bob, then jail him let's see how the night plays out.

 

 

Right here.

 

You accused me of back-pedaling after Wombat's lynch. I did no such thing.

 

Then, you put words in my mouth alluding to me thinking Not Bob is the converter, and goading me to jail him and not Verbal (whom I said I was going to jail after Wombat's death scene). You were subtly trying to keep me from jailing Verbal.

 

 

Okay....

 

My candidates for my NK:

 

Ape

Verbal

Not Bob

 

What do others think?

 

I think the 2nd name is wrong. What? You asked!

 

 

 

THE APE SUCKS

 

I'd rather try and be wrong, than wait for someone to lead me around.

 

You should shoot NotBob, I'll jail Verbal.

 

I should have known to back of Wombat when NotBob said "get behind the Ape" its like he was telegraphing that I was pushing for a townie lynch. If there are no conversions tonight, and NotBob isn't the converter, then you'll know Verbal is.

 

No. If you folks want me to vet my role, you can't jail me....cause then I can't vet myself. And scum would be smart to holster and line up yet another lynch. C'mon Ape, you know this. If it means I have to fully reveal at night, then so be it. But a big FOS on you (even after I agreed with you today) for backing me into a corner.

 

 

 

In retrospect, Wombat was town but you are the one who was crowing that he had to be the converter. We agreed with your arguments. Along with our own suspicions of how he had played all game. Don't back pedal now and claim someone else was pushing this lynch, because that is the scummy. You're certain it's Not bob, then jail him let's see how the night plays out.

 

^ This

 

 

I think you should kill Verbal. Ape offered to jail him while you shoot NotBob. But if it´s Verbal and Ape that are the original mafia? Have JLM, Razen or Leelou claimed any roles? I can´t remember.

 

Huh? Weren't you the one saying I could back something up for you? Where's the love now? That's some pretty fast target switching.....

 

Then here, Verbal chimes in trying to make sure once again that I do not jail him.

[John McClane]

All right guys, going for it. If Verbal's still alive in the morning we have to lynch him.

 

 

If you shot Verbal. I will put in the jailing on JLM.

 

IF there is a vigilante, they should shoot NotBob. I fear I'll be the target however, just so long as you guys get it right with the lynching tomorrow.

[JenLenaMom]

I can see how that made it seem like that's what I was saying, but to me there's an implied IF there,(IF) you think he's the converter, jail him and prove it. Obviously it didn't come across that way.

 

And as soon as the scene was up you started making accusations of everyone else on the train, like we were the masterminds of Wombat's lynch.

 

Like I said jail me kill me this game is exhausting and I'm tired. Going to stop before I go into full emo melt down.

[John McClane]

I can see how that made it seem like that's what I was saying, but to me there's an implied IF there,(IF) you think he's the converter, jail him and prove it. Obviously it didn't come across that way.

 

And as soon as the scene was up you started making accusations of everyone else on the train, like we were the masterminds of Wombat's lynch.

 

Like I said jail me kill me this game is exhausting and I'm tired. Going to stop before I go into full emo melt down.

 

That is how you play mafia.

 

What did you expect me to do? Turn around and say, "whoops I was wrong about wombat, I guess I'll just stop trying to figure this out now".

 

When you play like me, you make cases and you live and die by them. I lead, and often I am wrong and scum just lets me do their work for them. That is what you and Verbal did. You gave me enough rope to hang Wombat, and you were hoping myself too. I never called anyone else a mastermind. However, seeing Wombat's alignment gives context to the votes on his train.

 

Scum has a bold lead in this game. Me being scum and bullying a lynch on Wombat makes no sense strategically. Town on town violence, while your scum team lurks makes sense.

 

Anyway, you've been jailed. You wanna melt? Go for it, I could use the lulz

[Christine]

No idea what's going on here, but I vote for Ape's death.

 

For once you and I agree.

 

 

HIGH FIVE

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

All right guys, going for it. If Verbal's still alive in the morning we have to lynch him.

 

 

If you shot Verbal. I will put in the jailing on JLM.

 

IF there is a vigilante, they should shoot NotBob. I fear I'll be the target however, just so long as you guys get it right with the lynching tomorrow.

 

There you go again directing another's action. When you going to realize you don't have all the facts your pied pipering hurts the town and only works toward your scum agenda.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I can see how that made it seem like that's what I was saying, but to me there's an implied IF there,(IF) you think he's the converter, jail him and prove it. Obviously it didn't come across that way.

 

And as soon as the scene was up you started making accusations of everyone else on the train, like we were the masterminds of Wombat's lynch.

 

Like I said jail me kill me this game is exhausting and I'm tired. Going to stop before I go into full emo melt down.

 

That is how you play mafia.

 

What did you expect me to do? Turn around and say, "whoops I was wrong about wombat, I guess I'll just stop trying to figure this out now".

 

When you play like me, you make cases and you live and die by them. I lead, and often I am wrong and scum just lets me do their work for them. That is what you and Verbal did. You gave me enough rope to hang Wombat, and you were hoping myself too. I never called anyone else a mastermind. However, seeing Wombat's alignment gives context to the votes on his train.

 

Scum has a bold lead in this game. Me being scum and bullying a lynch on Wombat makes no sense strategically. Town on town violence, while your scum team lurks makes sense.

 

Anyway, you've been jailed. You wanna melt? Go for it, I could use the lulz

 

This how you play mafia. From the Pilot QT. The best of Ape directing the action like only he knows how. Hope everyone understands. Shoot me tonight, lynch me tomorrow but whatever you do kill the Ape and soon. Meesh should be able to verify these quotes are his.

 

 

Sakea is scum too, btw. Feel pretty good about that read. I've been right about her in the past

I've been saying kill Crusher all game. Kill the fat pig.

I'd like to kill Christine and Crusher first though.

Alright NOTBOB - you need to prove you weren't converted, I can prove it tonight by jailing someone, you can prove it now by shooting someone. Only Meesh and Wombat, or either of us could have told scum that Song was our Cop.

NotBob can vet himself, I can in night phase, if we both vet ourselves - then it leaves you and Wombat to give Song to scum. If you didn't do it, then you should be voting Wombat. Unless you converted him.

I know I don't have a 100% sure thing on you wombat, BUT with the pieces I do have, you are the most well informed lynch I can advise to the town right now.

We are waiting on you not bob, you've stalled long enough. Prove you are still our Vig, shoot Ishmael, or wombat

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

For those keeping score at home.

Ape batting 0.000%

Ape wanted seven different players killed and so far four have been town.

After each dead townie he offered more directions to get us to advance his agenda.

 

Like I said, do what you must but please see through his [dragon droppings]

[Christine]

Crusher is dead.

 

 

And I am vetted town.

[Christine]

Also, DONT SHOOT ISHY. He can vet himself if he cleanses me!

[John McClane]

Crusher is dead.

 

 

And I am vetted town.

 

 

He's direct quoting the QT. Which, if I'm not mistaken, is against the spirit of the game.

 

He's also quoting quite a while back in the game. I said "kill Crusher or Christine" because I originally thought the night I RB'ed Crusher was the night with no conversion, I covered this before. As for you, you were HIS favored target. In fact Meesh could probably confirm that the only person Bob mentioned the better part of the QT was you, so I told him go for it. Again this was when I was assuming my whole guild could be trusted. Something I've already covered.

 

He's full of crapola.

[Christine]

Bob, why you obsessed with me, bro?

 

 

FYI, You're Flammable, so

 

 

[DPR]

Crusher is dead.

 

 

And I am vetted town.

 

 

He's direct quoting the QT. Which, if I'm not mistaken, is against the spirit of the game.

 

He's also quoting quite a while back in the game. I said "kill Crusher or Christine" because I originally thought the night I RB'ed Crusher was the night with no conversion, I covered this before. As for you, you were HIS favored target. In fact Meesh could probably confirm that the only person Bob mentioned the better part of the QT was you, so I told him go for it. Again this was when I was assuming my whole guild could be trusted. Something I've already covered.

 

He's full of crapola.

 

I have not formally prohibited the quoting of the guild QT's (as I did with the Airship QT and with several individual players who asked). But, I will do so now: FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, DO NOT QUOTE YOUR GUILD QT. You may paraphrase, imply loose conjecture, or just plain lie, but do not quote.

 

 

 

 

 

[mmeeshal]

Is directly quoting dead people all right, still?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Crusher is dead.

 

 

And I am vetted town.

 

 

He's direct quoting the QT. Which, if I'm not mistaken, is against the spirit of the game.

 

He's also quoting quite a while back in the game. I said "kill Crusher or Christine" because I originally thought the night I RB'ed Crusher was the night with no conversion, I covered this before. As for you, you were HIS favored target. In fact Meesh could probably confirm that the only person Bob mentioned the better part of the QT was you, so I told him go for it. Again this was when I was assuming my whole guild could be trusted. Something I've already covered.

 

He's full of crapola.

 

I have not formally prohibited the quoting of the guild QT's (as I did with the Airship QT and with several individual players who asked). But, I will do so now: FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, DO NOT QUOTE YOUR GUILD QT. You may paraphrase, imply loose conjecture, or just plain lie, but do not quote.

 

My apologies.

[DPR]

Is directly quoting dead people all right, still?

 

 

It is.

 

 

[DPR]

Crusher is dead.

 

 

And I am vetted town.

 

 

He's direct quoting the QT. Which, if I'm not mistaken, is against the spirit of the game.

 

He's also quoting quite a while back in the game. I said "kill Crusher or Christine" because I originally thought the night I RB'ed Crusher was the night with no conversion, I covered this before. As for you, you were HIS favored target. In fact Meesh could probably confirm that the only person Bob mentioned the better part of the QT was you, so I told him go for it. Again this was when I was assuming my whole guild could be trusted. Something I've already covered.

 

He's full of crapola.

 

I have not formally prohibited the quoting of the guild QT's (as I did with the Airship QT and with several individual players who asked). But, I will do so now: FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, DO NOT QUOTE YOUR GUILD QT. You may paraphrase, imply loose conjecture, or just plain lie, but do not quote.

 

My apologies.

 

No worries - I hadn't made the point clear.