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And here we have Amadine. A little easier to case, as she's only had 9 game-related posts out of a total of 15. Not bad as a percentage there, but the overall low numbers make this case easy to do:

 

 

 

Looks like a vig day kill type thing to me??? Haven't seen one in a game for a long time but it can and does happen.

 

 

I'm comfortable with a vote on BG at the moment.

 

VOTE BG

 

As a reference, this is post #323. That means a whopping 322 posts had passed before she dove into the game! This post is reasonable, and nothing of note.

 

 

 

Bg docent seem incredibly scummy. Although serial killer is a possible thing. Not sure. Kivam claim was so predictable although he does seem to b scum alot. Ishy case is worth. Looking into I I did notice vote bouncing earlier! Sorry for not be here when I said I would.

 

Not sure exactly what it is but this post feels off to me. Distancing much?

 

FoS Amega

 

A good FOS, as amega was apparently doing exactly what she suggested. At this point in the game, we can't tell if this was a double-distance move. Just something to keep in mind.

 

 

 

It is not Night Two - please submit all actions by Monday, 9:00 AM EST.

 

 

So great ModGod.... we continue voting to lynch?

 

Not related to other players, but technically game-related so I left it in here. Moving on...

 

 

 

LMFAO. Ama, you're gonna get modkilled. XD

 

What? :tongue: it's a legitimate question given the day's events.

 

See above.

 

 

 

Interesting. Amega viewed as something other than innocent and then the lynch fails. I also think that Hoof's jumping the gun was suspect, but since it's night again i may just bed down for the night....

 

A little suspicion tossed on Hoof, but not much to go on.

 

 

 

I think it's better to stick with Amega today, though something about my dear brother does feel a little off....

 

Voted with the major train - nothing bad, as most of us did the same. No info.

 

 

 

I am not scum. I have been having internet problems *throws it against the wall* The vote on Amega was due to posting before i went back to count how many votes he had already - it's an error i make all the time - as town and scum.

 

That said if we have one scum player left, which makes sense due to numbers, then it would be a valid play for that player to try to slid through unnoticed while the remaining townies kill each other off.Due to that VOTE HYBRID

 

Explaining her vote after the hammer. Says she always makes this error. But this post is important because she attacks Hybrid for.......doing exactly what could be said she's doing? Interesting...

 

 

 

Active lurking is a well known fact though.

 

Again, barely game-related, but I left it in. That makes 3 posts of her 9 game-related ones that barely qualify. Just keeping a tally, folks.

 

 

 

I am town and at this point I believe its either verb or hybrid.

 

Verb's over defensive reply to the playing clean comment pushed him ahead of hybrid.

 

VOTE VERB

 

And her post thus far for today's phase. Either me (the initial push for the last 2 days) or Hybrid (who she last voted for doing what could be argued she is doing) is who she thinks is scum. Has said "I am town" a couple of times, I think. I notice a handful of people like to do that. I'm rambling here, but just making note of it...not sure why people do this in games where it's obvious there isn't a LD.

 

 

Conclusion to come...

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Conclusion on Amadine:

 

Biggest thing that pops out to me is how her game-related posts keep coming at intervals spread over 2-3 days. She makes a game-related post (or two), and then is basically not saying anything for a couple/few days. While this does coincide with how semi-active players play, it still is a mafia tactic as well -- to post just enough to be remembered, but just barely. It makes her remark about it being a valid play for the remaining scum to slide by unnoticed and votes Hybrid. That, my friends, is a huge red flag to me. Especially when combined with the fact that the following say phase, she votes me due to my potential lynch being more prominent over the last couple of days. It makes me the low hanging fruit for a lynch, and I don't like it.

 

Between the 2, I'm more leaning Amadine. This is based mostly on the contradictory remark I mentioned in this post and in my casing post.

 

 

 

All that being said, I'd like for people to weigh in with either their cases, or their thoughts on the 2 I've just done.

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Both have layed really low. I can almost pass off Hybrids focus on Hoof as a gut feeling. Sometimes I know I can get too singley focused and convince myself no matter what X person is scum and forget to watch others.

 

 

I made my case earlier from the information I have, I feel comfortable with Amadine as well based on completely different info. As I mentioned before, the reason Ama keeps mentioning "I am town" even without a lie detector is that people know her reputation that she doesn't lie in mafia. So her diffinitive reply is something to make me pause slightly. Amadine seems to lay low in a lot of games, she has been referencing internet problems for her inactivity, so there is that. However, Hoof makes a good point about Ama using a lie to throw us all off. I think given the cases, we are likely to gain most from Amadine lynch. A) If she is scum, I will never trust her "truth speaking" again, a plus meta speaking. B) She is on my shortlist.

 

Vote Amadine

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Oh good, looks like I will get to say I told you so after all. And a mislynch will end the game in the scums favour.

 

And yes I have internet problems, only playing from my phone at the moment and reception at home is sketchy at best.

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Is that all you have to say Amadine? Unless randomly there are two scum left, we should have 1 more day if we mislynch it.

 

5 now, 4 after lynch, 3 tomorrow. 2 vs. 1 means one last chance to win.

 

 

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As only Hybrid and I are left to vote, I'm just going to hammer. As I mentioned, BG and Hoof are the 2 I trust more, while Amadine and Hybrid are the least.

 

The casing was mostly for 2 reasons: for BG's benefit, and to see how Amadine/Hybrid reacted to it. Hybrid is still not around, and Amadine pretty much ignored it.

 

Vote: Amadine

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Final Day 6 vote count:

 

Amadine (3) - Hoof, BG, Verbal

Verbal (1) - Amadine

 

Not voting (1): Hybrid

 

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Click.

 

Moving towards the first level... the doors and windows are blocked shut by the steel reinforcement shields... they must have been triggered after the explosion... the horde followed close behind, but ended up overtaking one of their own when attacking...

 

Click.

 

"Pud" (Amadine) the mutated Orangutan (Vanilla Town) has been killed by the horde.

 

It is now Night 6, get actions to me by 5PM EST tomorrow.

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Freaking... Okay, that's it. Verbal it is. You've been playing both sides of every argument. Hybrid better show up to vote you.

 

Bring it Verb... kill me tonight, I dare ya.

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hmmmm.... i dont know, Verbal seems too townie to be scumk. he has been very active making cases and all just now, and i dont know if a mafia would do that.

 

i dont know

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As only Hybrid and I are left to vote, I'm just going to hammer. As I mentioned, BG and Hoof are the 2 I trust more, while Amadine and Hybrid are the least.

 

The casing was mostly for 2 reasons: for BG's benefit, and to see how Amadine/Hybrid reacted to it. Hybrid is still not around, and Amadine pretty much ignored it.

 

Vote: Amadine

 

We still had plenty of time . . . there was no need to hammer until I'd at least checked in. I doubt it would have changed anything, but the last sentence feels like you're playing it as a last-second hammer, which is weird.

 

For what it's worth, Amadine was probably the only one of you three who hadn't given me scum vibes at some point in this game. Blackhoof is still the most suspicious to me. BG would be a close second except for his role claim. Verbal . . . I'm not sure on. I don't think he's scum -- but if there's a serial killer, I think he's it. It will be very interesting to see who dies tonight, if anyone.

 

By the way, I know I'm typically more analytical than this, but given the lack of time I've had to devote to the game I've been trying to work off of instincts more.

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Freaking... Okay, that's it. Verbal it is. You've been playing both sides of every argument. Hybrid better show up to vote you.

 

Bring it Verb... kill me tonight, I dare ya.

 

In retrospect, this post pings my radar. Verbal said at the outset of the day that Amadine was the most suspicious to him -- I don't view that as playing both sides of the argument.

 

And the last sentence feels a bit over the top.

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As only Hybrid and I are left to vote, I'm just going to hammer. As I mentioned, BG and Hoof are the 2 I trust more, while Amadine and Hybrid are the least.

 

The casing was mostly for 2 reasons: for BG's benefit, and to see how Amadine/Hybrid reacted to it. Hybrid is still not around, and Amadine pretty much ignored it.

 

Vote: Amadine

 

We still had plenty of time . . . there was no need to hammer until I'd at least checked in. I doubt it would have changed anything, but the last sentence feels like you're playing it as a last-second hammer, which is weird.

 

For what it's worth, Amadine was probably the only one of you three who hadn't given me scum vibes at some point in this game. Blackhoof is still the most suspicious to me. BG would be a close second except for his role claim. Verbal . . . I'm not sure on. I don't think he's scum -- but if there's a serial killer, I think he's it. It will be very interesting to see who dies tonight, if anyone.

 

By the way, I know I'm typically more analytical than this, but given the lack of time I've had to devote to the game I've been trying to work off of instincts more.

 

It definitely would not have changed anything - that's why I did it. As for a SK, we haven't had more than 1 death (minus the bomb thing), so I'm not sure where you are pulling that from.

 

I do agree with you that I haven't been playing both sides of anything - I came out with a suspicions, cased them (which actually included you, heh), and voted accordingly.

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When I say you've been playing both sides, your right. I exagerrated. Not EVERY arguement. Just when there were actually, ya know, arguements. That would be Day 1 and 2. I started to go back to quote it, but meh. You were cozying up to BOTH me and Red in our arguements over the course of day 1. Thought you were and early vote on Panda and remained there. Then on day 2 you flip flopped a bit on me and Wombat's arguement as well.

 

Voting:

 

Day 1: Early Panda voter. Could mean anything. Whatever, Day 1.

 

Day 2: You did not vote Ishy. I know you defended that a few pages back, but the fact remains the same. We were at 6 votes for a while until Wombat caved near the deadline and got 'sploded.. Maybe you didn't do it becaauuuse, you didn't want to be the hammer methinks.

 

Day 3 + 4: Viewings on Amega and needing to double lynch makes vote placement kinda null here. When a cop says "Lynch Him," then all bets are off for scum team mates.

 

Day 5: Hammer Vote

Day 6: Hammer Vote

 

Playing Mr. Nice guy on these last few days has been easy. Let others make a case first, watch for a trend, then BAM. Hammer that sucker. Others made the arguements for you. And if you NEED to make an arguement, well, not too hard to make inactivity and a twist words in a small amount of posts.

 

Hoof, Hybrid: One of us will die tonight. Just remember this in case I die. Verbal is the only person I have not successfully Tracked. If a NA was performed by either of you when I viewed you, I didn't see it because you did it to yourself.

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Click.

 

Bloody chunks of flesh are stuck all over the bat... cracked that damned dirty ape-f*cker open like a walnut, never liked that weirdo and his obsession with the chimps, won't miss him and his monkey fondling at all... there's a couple of them in front of the door to the basement, if I can get past them... I can get in the blast shelter and vaporize the whole building... and somehow walk away from this whole mess.

 

Click.

 

"Dr. Charleton Heston, PhD." (bgrishinko) an infected scientist (TOWN TRACKER) has been killed.

 

It is now Day 7, and only 3 survivors remain...

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I had a sneaking feeling that BG was going to be the one to die instead of me - it sets up a nice little WIFOM for endgame (which this obviously is).

 

I think we should do careful re-reads and not jump the gun.

 

@Hybrid: you've expressed suspicion on Hoof all game long. Like almost a focus.

@Hoof: you've voted me a few times and hopped off, and say you aren't sure. Don't jump on anybody yet.

 

I say the above because if Hybrid is scum, a Hoof vote on me ends the game as soon as Hy sees it. Same if I was scum - I'd jump on a vote that wasn't me and end the game. It's the same for each of us. I'm trying to do this as pro-town as possible - we need to re-read and gather as much info as possible, share it, and come to a decision.

 

 

I specifically want to hear Hoof's thoughts. There is something in particular that I'm looking to hear. I will reveal what I'm talking about today, so let's think this through.

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I think BG was on to something when he died. Verbal has mount been tracked and I have reason to believe the last scum has a role of some sort.

 

Why? Because I am the doctor. I protected Ed the night he died, but my protection was bypassed or blocked somehow. I likely protected myself a night you tracked me.

 

Hybrid doesn't really have anything going for him except inactivity, but that didn't work with amadine, and night ended relatively quickly, meaning the scum and I were active at the time. hybrid has not been active.

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