[Advanced] Malazan Mafia - Game On

[bhskeeper11]

For all the reasons I stated before, I still think Ithi and Kill are mafia.

 

I don't really care which one we lynch, because it seems like a lynch on one will give tell on the other.

 

Vote Kill.

 

I think Krak's statement is not twisty at all. Ithi DOES want us to take her claim as true (as well as yours) and she is now certain of Ed's innocence, too. I believe you and Ithi are in this together, I am 60/40 in belief that you are mafia over town.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Oh my dear. That just about nails it for me. You are not that clumsy at Mafia. To back up such a load of rubbish from Krak probably means you are also Mafia. How disappointing.

 

I will switch to a Kate Vote if necessary - but I think both her and Krak are Mafia.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I would LOVE to see the quote where I am certain Ed is Town - I wonder where it is? Oh yes ... Its not been quoted because I didn't say it.

 

Lol

 

[killuliu]

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If Ed is Town and was a one shot Vig who killed the Mafia Godfather- why would you think he was on the Mafia Team Ama? No-one else has claimed they did the kill.

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Of course that does mean he has been confirmed Town for quite a few nights. I am wondering how/why he is still alive, he is definitely a weakness for the Mafia.

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I'm thinking its more likely he is Town.

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So I collected most important parts of her post for you. In her next post, she says logically, which doesn't mean "for certain", or I've learnt nothing. And of her other statements, I can't find the certain part. She said it's likely Ed is town as he claims to have killed the godfather and no-one has contested him.

And of course Ithi wants us to take our claim as true. You want us to believe you are not mafia, don't you? You want the others to believe we are mafia, don't you?

And Kate, your certainty of some things bugs me a bit.

[killuliu]

Bah, when will I learn to use the "preview post" button, so I won't get sniped all the time?

[Niniel]

Ok, here is the deal. There can´t obviously not be three mafia left. Probably there is two - if there where only one that would be to few anti town. Just stating the obvious here since I think you all agree with me. So we have to be very careful about who we will lynch today. If we lynch a townie then mafia will kill someone next night and then they win. So two quick votes on one player doesn´t sit well with me.

 

I had hoped that I would get the time to read the thread again the last days but I haven´t. So I´m going to reread a bit now and then I will be back. I have been in just this situation before and I voted wrong and mafia won.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Kate's blatant backing up of Krak seems almost too obvious. I have seen how clever Kate can be and something about that felt odd. I still think that Krak might be Mafia, but like Tina said, we really need to get it right this time. Kate is just pinging me like submarine sonar gone mad.

[Ithillian Turambar]

:depthcharges:

[killuliu]

Ok, here is the deal. There can´t obviously not be three mafia left. Probably there is two - if there where only one that would be to few anti town. Just stating the obvious here since I think you all agree with me. So we have to be very careful about who we will lynch today. If we lynch a townie then mafia will kill someone next night and then they win. So two quick votes on one player doesn´t sit well with me.

 

I had hoped that I would get the time to read the thread again the last days but I haven´t. So I´m going to reread a bit now and then I will be back. I have been in just this situation before and I voted wrong and mafia won.

 

Ok, I will vote Krak (or Kate) later on, but just to make sure our day doesn't end too early:

unvote

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ok Kill. I will go with that for now ...... But I'm on uk town and will probably re vote before I go to bed for Kate or Krak.

 

unvote - for now .......

 

 

:suspensetypemusicplaying:

[bhskeeper11]

Okay, I apologize for assuming you were certain... you are pretty sure that Ed is Town, then.

 

And, I was not defending Krak as much as I was going against what Kill said. I think Kill and Ithi have been scummy for the last couple of phases.

 

If what you all say is correct about the win/lose conditions, I think either Ithi or Kill is the way to go.

 

 

As a side note, I really hope we aren't Townies fighting Townies and the real mafia is laughing as we hang the noose 'round our own necks.

[bhskeeper11]

Double post, 'cause I forgot to mention something...

 

I think Mason is a clever claim for mafia members wanting to avoid suspicion from any ideas about the two being linked and working together. I also feel like discussing your actions on the game thread is suspicious and makes it seem like you are trying really hard to be seen working together, to give your claim more credibility.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well ... They will be laughing if you lynch me or Kill lol. Or should I say - YOU will be laughing if you convince the rest of the Town to lynch us.

 

If Ed did what he said he did, I'm pretty certain he would logically be Town yes.

 

You have softened your stance somewhat. It smacks of niceness and reasonableness. I definitely think you are Mafia now.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well

 

I've just got used to doing that (chatting in thread) now because I didn't have a partner for ages. And I don't need to hide anything from the rest of the Town. Anything I say can help them locate Mafia I'm hoping - so why wouldn't I post it in thread. You already know we are Masons so the QT isn't all that relevant now. We don't have to plan really. We did decide off thread who we thought were most likely to be Mafia. But I trust Kill to do his thing his way and I will do it mine.

[bhskeeper11]

I have not softened my stance at all. I am firm in my belief that you and Kill are mafia.

 

I am Town and most definitely will not laugh if you flip town, but I think you (both) are the best shot we have at getting mafia.

[Ithillian Turambar]

:couldyouevenbemorewrong?:

 

Lynch me or Kill and you will make it very difficult for the Town to win, if not impossible. Anyone who is truly Town, really really needs to pay attention to this - or its all going to go horribly wrong - I promise you.

[Niniel]

I have reread. First, I was mistaken. Jack said in his last post that there is 6 left and it takes 4 to lynch. But I count 7 players: Tina, Ithi, Kill, Ama, Kate, Krak and Ed. So if we happen to lynch the wrong player it won´t be over. That is if there is two mafia left. If there is three left then we are in big trouble, but I don´t think so.

 

For me it kind of comes down to Ithi or Kate. I can´t see that both of them is town. But who is lying?

 

Ithi: She KNEW Lily was lying but Lily was lynched and turned out town. She claimed mason and Kill backed her up. I can´t make up my mind about the mason team. Ithi and Kill seam trustworthy to me. It would be so stupid to out themselves at that point of the game. But then I know Ithi are good at this game, and so is Kill, and they could have given it a shot and go for a huge WIFOM.

 

Kate: Has been pinging my radar since day one with her vanilla reveal. She is trying really hard to get Ithi or Kill lynched. Then there were her possible slip in #767. (I forgot to quote it so I will do it in next post.) She wonders why Christine didn´t kill anyone. But how could she know that Christine hadn´t killed Wombat? Was it because she did it herself?

 

Quote and summary coming up soon:

[Niniel]

Kate`s post that I refered to:

 

Christine, if you had the ability to kill last night, why didn't you do it? You could have ended the whole Ithi/Kill debate right quick AND it would have been in your favor regardless of how they flipped.

 

We don't need anyone around that is confirmed non-town.

 

Vote Christine.

 

I STILL think Ithi and/or Kill are mafia (although, I am not sure about the or... I've never seen that, but don't doubt it could happen.) Just because Christine has claimed a killing role AND that she is not Town am I voting for her and not Ithi or Kill.

 

 

And here I questioned her post.

 

 

Can´t help by laughing at Christine...

 

So Wombat got right. He was killed. But why was it only one kill? Christine - did you kill Wombat?

 

*waves* Hi! I got my powers when someone died, I guess. I was Vanilla Townie from the begining. And you lot asked and demanded for people to claim roles, and you all flipped out that Icarium would go on a killing spree. No. I am simply... let me double check the wording. Since Mappo died, GG on lynching him you lot, I am now an SK. So, go ahead, lynch me, but you made me who I am. Might as well use it to our advantage.

 

A serial killer doesn´t fight for town. A serial killer win by herself/himself when all else are dead. I don´t know why you told us you were a SK and I don´t know why you would say that we can use it to our advantage. If Jack hasn´t change the win condition for a SK then you are not part of "us".

 

Both Ithi and Kill seams very honest. I think it would be stupid of Ithi to risk both of them. But hey, this is mafia. Right now we need to take out both mafia and Christine and since Christine has told us she is a SK I will vote her first. Vote Christine.

 

Wombat had just been killed. I was curious why there were only one kill and asked Christine if she had killed him.

 

 

I don't really think there are any inactives in the game, not out of us who are left. We've all been pretty active in this game. If you don't win with Town then it makes sense to lynch you. I do hope you've explained your role correctly though. Did YOU kill, or try to kill anyone last night Christine?

 

How could you try to kill without succeeding now that there is only vanillas and killers?

 

Christine, if you had the ability to kill last night, why didn't you do it? You could have ended the whole Ithi/Kill debate right quick AND it would have been in your favor regardless of how they flipped.

 

We don't need anyone around that is confirmed non-town.

 

Vote Christine.

 

I STILL think Ithi and/or Kill are mafia (although, I am not sure about the or... I've never seen that, but don't doubt it could happen.) Just because Christine has claimed a killing role AND that she is not Town am I voting for her and not Ithi or Kill.

 

Kate - Christine didn´t say if she killed or not killed Wombat. How can you know that she didn´t? Because you killed Wombat?

 

 

I had already submitted my request last night when I saw the Ithi Kill thing. I don't mind settling that tonight...

 

Here she says she used her night action. My guess is that both mafia and Christine killed Wombat. That would explain why there were only one kill. Did Kate just make a slip? She also killed Wombat?

 

 

Blah. Jack, you really screwed me. Everyone knew Icarium would become SK with the death of Maggo, and the other character you gave me to claim was an ASSASSIN! I couldn't claim just Townie. Boo.

 

O_O Jack gave le mafia fake claims.....

 

Either way.

 

 

 

 

Vote Christine

 

That has been known for a while now. Why so surprised?

 

 

We have the chance to win even if we lynch a townie tonight. Right now I could go for Ithi or Kate. I would like to hear from Ed, Krak and Ama to see what they think. I would also want Kate to explain that post.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I understand Tina. I'm on UK time and really don't want to wake up dead tomorrow lol.

 

I will stay up as late as I can and hopefully the others will turn up.

[Niniel]

And I´m one hour ahead of you. I will go to sleep soon. But there is no rush. I will be back tomorrow.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ok

[bhskeeper11]

Wow... that really was pretty bad. It was a slip of sorts, but not a scum slip. I made the assumption that mafia killed Wombat and Christine did nothing, not considering that they could have targeted the same person (that is a HUGE coincidence with so many players left).

 

I made a stupid error day one saying Vanilla Town instead of just Town. I was asked for a reveal (by Ithi, no less) and I did it.

 

That being said, I am Town through and through. You can believe me or lynch me to find out. I have never been this pushy for a lynch before, but I really think Ithi and Kill are mafia members playing together under the pretense of a Mason group. If we lynch one, we will know the other and will either have another confirmed mafia or a confirmed Townie. In my opinion, either will be to our advantage.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I refer you to my previous post. We are not mafia. We are Mason Townies. We had no special abilities even before that God got killed and vanilla-ised everyone. We would have just been able to communicate - had either berf or Kill been around on day one or two.

 

Also - there is no advantage to Lynching either of us today as you probably won't end up with a confirmed townie the next day. Whichever one of us is left over will be NKd I'm thinking, you just wouldn't leave the Town with that kind of advantage.

 

I can't say it in any other way. We are both Town. The Mafia know this is true and they are using us as an easy target so that they win this game.

[bhskeeper11]

Just because it seems like we are dead-locked... you think I am mafia and I think you are both mafia... do you have any suggestion as to who the other mafia members might be?

 

I have not thought much on this, because you and Kill are working together (giving me an idea on two people instead of one).

[John E. Kelley]

Wait, wha? Huh? See, what had happened was.....

 

I come home from work and I'm already lynched, there's a hurricane in my front yard, I have no power, my cat died....just great. Well blah. There. My blah post. Go town.