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  On 8/17/2011 at 5:38 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 5:36 PM, Red2111 said:

and if you were anythign but cult you wouldn't be continuing to push this absurd agenda of yours, especially when your entire plan henged on faulty assumptions that you "neglected" to ask the mod about before proposing them to the town.

 

 

i know your play style John, you say shit for reactions and then jump on like a bull dog with tunnel vision. to me, it seems liek you're on a team and are anxious to kill anyonw your not certain is on it, given your feelings about the lannisters on thread i'm guessing if your a House memebr your a Start but my gut pegs you as Cult.

 

 

go ahead and keep on beating that grass John, and making yoruself look more suspicous

 

 

Bwahahahaha... now I love my vote. You slipped, and now you are trying to redirect suspicion at me. Priceless.

 

 

^^ This. Have to agree. As I said, Red is tricksy, and I know how she roles.

 

Thanks for the welcome, Verby :happy:

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VOTE COUNT

Sakaea (3) - Slats, Vic, CTM

McClane (3) - Red, Booboo, Smash

Red (8) - Hybrid, McClane, Barm, Wombat, Verbal, Lanth, DPR, Sakaea

JF80 (1) - Crusher

Lanth (1) - Pac

 

13 to lynch

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Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:34 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:54 PM, Verbal32 said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:15 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 6:49 PM, Verbal32 said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 4:46 PM, Red2111 said:

another question on the subject of there being 3 kills, i wonder what prevented them as well. theres a slew of roles that coudl be in place that could block a Kill, but thats a whole lot of good guessing imo and i don't like coinsedences

 

Yeah, I noticed this as well. You are most definitely NOT a survivor. Therefore, we should lynch you. Sorry, Red.

 

Vote: Red

 

 

 

 

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 6:10 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

I'm caught up now. First, Mynd and JF80 being all but absent with no mod warning is something to think about - methinks gold is already being tossed about.

 

Second, I'm still not right with the Ape/Jack/Far exhange, and Pac's vote on Far was interesting to me.

 

Hybrid, keep yer grubby paws away from me treasure. heh

 

Other than that, I see a lot of circling. Three NK attempts doesn't really surprise me, but the fact that none of them went through does.

 

Hmmmm...

 

Really? You say that after reading what just happened to Red? That is strange.....

 

Why is it strange? Take a minute to think about your answer while you and your boyfriend Hybrid ask each other if it was really a good idea to try and muck around with me. Dumbass

 

Having said that, I'll go ahead and

Vote Red

That way we can end any speculation and bullsh*t wifom case building. I was going to wait a while before voting her, just to see who might have tried to build on her wifom. But, might as well get it out of the way now.

 

1) Strange because you're wondering why NKs don't land and we are pressuring Red for much of the same thing - see #2.

 

2) At this point, house hunting or CL hunting is what's happening...and it appears we've found a few house members.

 

3) Hybrid has not bought me dinner yet, so no action for him.

 

4) You aren't nearly as scary as you think you are.

 

5) Might actually put you down tomorrow after we lynch your house-mate Red today.

 

6) I'm completely out of items here, but gonna push for 10 regardless.

 

7) dlhfldshflhdslkfjdslkjfs.

 

8) You are playing really quiet, and attempting to blend in, which makes me think you see what way the wind is blowing, and don't want it aimed at you.

 

9) Which , naturally, means you have something to hide.

 

10) DIAF

 

My retort is in no way necessary for the game, but I can't help myself.

 

1) I'm wondering why you seem to be missing a component of the game. You're usually sharper than this (Look to balance for three misfired NK's, and I'm presuring Red because she tried to wifom some SK nonsense into the game, which makes me believe she is not a Survivor, ergo, she must hang to provide us with info).

 

2) At this point, despite what should be happening, what is happening seems to be a lot of stealing and wifoming aimed at fishign for info. Kind of like what you are doing.

 

3) Don't fall for the dinner bit, Hybrid. Verbaliscious is much cheaper and way easier than that.

 

4) You've never seen me naked.

 

5) Uh huh.

 

6) You really are a huge turd. I could win prizes with you.

 

7) This is you => 8O c=3

 

8) I already said I was playing quietly - I'm dying to know how Kivy put this baby together, and after the Vampre game, to see how using currency has evolved. I'm just watching, not hiding or laying low. Turd.

 

9) The only thing I'm hiding are me treasures that you a-holes keep trying to steal.

 

10). Refer to #7

 

11) I <3 you to. heh (Sometimes, when I'm stuck inside doing accounting all day, the insults seem harsh, but they're really not).

 

Party on.

 

So use a line once said by you...

 

 

*slaps*

 

You're fresh!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Call me...

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:33 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:19 PM, John McClane said:

 

I've put more details about the survivor role out there than anyone else, and confirmed with Doggin that conversions happen at night. So you should pretty much be able to assume I was not cult on D1, and my N1 horse crap made me the worst possible conversion target, so... I dunno Ape paranoia?

 

Anyway, what would you suggest we base our cases on exactly? The setup of this game having 4 factions, and intricate details, pretty much steers us to this...

 

So the thing you stole successfully, was it something you had already?

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

 

I would vote Smash in a nano second - especially given his early peek-a-boo posting. Good a choice as any for possible CL.

 

Not the CL dont waste your time.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:40 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:33 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:19 PM, John McClane said:

 

I've put more details about the survivor role out there than anyone else, and confirmed with Doggin that conversions happen at night. So you should pretty much be able to assume I was not cult on D1, and my N1 horse crap made me the worst possible conversion target, so... I dunno Ape paranoia?

 

Anyway, what would you suggest we base our cases on exactly? The setup of this game having 4 factions, and intricate details, pretty much steers us to this...

 

So the thing you stole successfully, was it something you had already?

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

 

I would vote Smash in a nano second - especially given his early peek-a-boo posting. Good a choice as any for possible CL.

 

Not the CL dont waste your time.

 

Care to be the first to name your faction?

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Unvote

 

vote: Smash

 

I'm gonna cut Lily's replacement some slack. The early momentum there died off, anyway.

 

fwiw, I have no problem with Red, either, but I like the idea of competing trains at this point in time. I was hoping to see Lily and Red compete, but I don't see that happening.

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Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:40 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:33 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:19 PM, John McClane said:

 

I've put more details about the survivor role out there than anyone else, and confirmed with Doggin that conversions happen at night. So you should pretty much be able to assume I was not cult on D1, and my N1 horse crap made me the worst possible conversion target, so... I dunno Ape paranoia?

 

Anyway, what would you suggest we base our cases on exactly? The setup of this game having 4 factions, and intricate details, pretty much steers us to this...

 

So the thing you stole successfully, was it something you had already?

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

 

I would vote Smash in a nano second - especially given his early peek-a-boo posting. Good a choice as any for possible CL.

 

Not the CL dont waste your time.

 

 

Wow. Thank the lord you've cleared that up for us! Now that you've completely vetted yourself there, we should just look elsewhere. Whew.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:24 PM, Pac said:

Interesting that Lanth has seen fit to tuck tail and run for cover while the Red lynch continues. Pretty sure her recent posts make her as "guilty" as any of the top candidates.

 

I'm sorry, what's your point exactly? Do you want a "I like my vote where it is" pointless post again? or do merely want me to sit on my rear and hang on your every word? #IHaveALife,U? :tongue:

 

Unlike some, I wouldn't make you a sammich with a 30 foot pole.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 5:36 PM, Bleedin Green said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 5:31 PM, John McClane said:

JN Metagaming time... anyone notice how quiet this blockhead has been so far?

There's been a lot of oddly quiet JNers this game, smash certainly included. While part of it does have to do with my complete lack of work to do the past couple of days, since when am I a freakin' top 3 poster amongst this crowd?

 

Not gonna lie, I'm getting smoked at work and I still have a newborn at home. Been training really hard at the gym so I spend about an hour a day there.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:47 PM, Lanthirrhos said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:24 PM, Pac said:

Interesting that Lanth has seen fit to tuck tail and run for cover while the Red lynch continues. Pretty sure her recent posts make her as "guilty" as any of the top candidates.

 

I'm sorry, what's your point exactly? Do you want a "I like my vote where it is" pointless post again? or do merely want me to sit on my rear and hang on your every word? #IHaveALife,U? :tongue:

 

Unlike some, I wouldn't make you a sammich with a 30 foot pole.

 

I can smell your fear.

Posted

VOTE COUNT

Sakaea (2) - Vic, CTM

McClane (3) - Red, Booboo, Smash

Red (8) - Hybrid, McClane, Barm, Wombat, Verbal, Lanth, DPR, Sakaea

JF80 (1) - Crusher

Lanth (1) - Pac

Smash (1) - Slats

 

13 to lynch

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:42 PM, slats said:

Unvote

 

vote: Smash

 

I'm gonna cut Lily's replacement some slack. The early momentum there died off, anyway.

 

fwiw, I have no problem with Red, either, but I like the idea of competing trains at this point in time. I was hoping to see Lily and Red compete, but I don't see that happening.

 

Bolded=Good.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:19 PM, John McClane said:

 

I've put more details about the survivor role out there than anyone else, and confirmed with Doggin that conversions happen at night. So you should pretty much be able to assume I was not cult on D1, and my N1 horse crap made me the worst possible conversion target, so... I dunno Ape paranoia?

 

Anyway, what would you suggest we base our cases on exactly? The setup of this game having 4 factions, and intricate details, pretty much steers us to this...

 

So the thing you stole successfully, was it something you had already?

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

 

 

I get where you are coming from.

 

Anway, here is my breakdown at this point...

 

1) Lily/Sakea (not sure what to make of this, saw a scum tell from Lily, but nothing more)

2) Jack (Survivor, Lannister) (D1 - Lynch)

3) Vic (too quiet)

4) Verbal (seems to have tipped a number of survivor tells, strange that he undermined my case on Jack though)

5) Wombat (not sure he knew why there were NKs)

6) Optimus Primate (me)

7) CTM (definitely a survivor, tells couldn't be made up unless he converted a survivor and was given them, unlikely)

8) Crusher (seemed to be skimming D1, lurking more than I expect)

9) 80 (not contributing)

10) Slats (typical slats D1)

11) Nae (quiet)

12) Smash (quiet, clearly not a survivor based on NK dialogue)

13) Pac (definitely a survivor, tells couldn't be made up unless he converted a survivor and was given them, unlikely)

14) Kastchei/ Red (major slips, clearly NOT a survivor)

15) Far Dareis Mai (understood my case on Jack, tells of being a survivor)

16) Bleedin (has defended better than Red, but still not convinced he is a survivor)

17) BooBoo (no clue)

18) Adella (leaning survivor)

19) Myndrunner (not contributing)

20) Hybrid (confident he's a survivor like Pac and CTM)

21) Lanth/12th Regiment (leaning non-survivor, see Pac's case)

22) Barmacral (no read yet)

23) DPR (leaning non-survivor)

24) the dude (no read)

25) alys kinch (no read)

26) sharrow (chatty, but not really giving us anything - no read)

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:42 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:40 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:33 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:19 PM, John McClane said:

 

I've put more details about the survivor role out there than anyone else, and confirmed with Doggin that conversions happen at night. So you should pretty much be able to assume I was not cult on D1, and my N1 horse crap made me the worst possible conversion target, so... I dunno Ape paranoia?

 

Anyway, what would you suggest we base our cases on exactly? The setup of this game having 4 factions, and intricate details, pretty much steers us to this...

 

So the thing you stole successfully, was it something you had already?

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

 

 

I would vote Smash in a nano second - especially given his early peek-a-boo posting. Good a choice as any for possible CL.

 

Not the CL dont waste your time.

 

Care to be the first to name your faction?

 

Would you ?

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:48 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:47 PM, Lanthirrhos said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:24 PM, Pac said:

Interesting that Lanth has seen fit to tuck tail and run for cover while the Red lynch continues. Pretty sure her recent posts make her as "guilty" as any of the top candidates.

 

I'm sorry, what's your point exactly? Do you want a "I like my vote where it is" pointless post again? or do merely want me to sit on my rear and hang on your every word? #IHaveALife,U? :tongue:

 

Unlike some, I wouldn't make you a sammich with a 30 foot pole.

 

I can smell your fear.

 

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Good casework. If there was ever reason to fear a game, if would be an amazing piece of provable evidence that I am scum, because townies just LOVE to die. /sarcasm for the mentally unenlightened.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:46 PM, Verbal32 said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:40 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:33 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 7:19 PM, John McClane said:

 

I've put more details about the survivor role out there than anyone else, and confirmed with Doggin that conversions happen at night. So you should pretty much be able to assume I was not cult on D1, and my N1 horse crap made me the worst possible conversion target, so... I dunno Ape paranoia?

 

Anyway, what would you suggest we base our cases on exactly? The setup of this game having 4 factions, and intricate details, pretty much steers us to this...

 

So the thing you stole successfully, was it something you had already?

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

 

I would vote Smash in a nano second - especially given his early peek-a-boo posting. Good a choice as any for possible CL.

 

Not the CL dont waste your time.

 

 

Wow. Thank the lord you've cleared that up for us! Now that you've completely vetted yourself there, we should just look elsewhere. Whew.

 

I aims to please verb.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:53 PM, Lanthirrhos said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:48 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:47 PM, Lanthirrhos said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:24 PM, Pac said:

Interesting that Lanth has seen fit to tuck tail and run for cover while the Red lynch continues. Pretty sure her recent posts make her as "guilty" as any of the top candidates.

 

I'm sorry, what's your point exactly? Do you want a "I like my vote where it is" pointless post again? or do merely want me to sit on my rear and hang on your every word? #IHaveALife,U? :tongue:

 

Unlike some, I wouldn't make you a sammich with a 30 foot pole.

 

I can smell your fear.

 

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Good casework. If there was ever reason to fear a game, if would be an amazing piece of provable evidence that I am scum, because townies just LOVE to die. /sarcasm for the mentally unenlightened.

 

are you flirting with me?

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:34 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

9) The only thing I'm hiding are me treasures that you a-holes keep trying to steal.

 

 

 

... and BOOM ... the Pirate shows us his ass.

 

Based on CTM trying to steal from me, me trying to steal from Pac on N1, and both of us coming up empty handed... and both CTM and Pac being my strongest reads for fellow survivors, I think its a somewhat safe hypothesis to make that the survivors started with nothing.

 

So DPR's "treasure" that he keeps referring to... has me thinking he's no survivor.

 

Red, DPR and Smash are my favorites.

Posted

Its interesting that some of the people who've been called out for not posting much based on "meta" which I figured out was historical play, started posting a bit more namely DPR and Smash.

 

I'll openly admit, I'm not posting much because its a bit hard to grasp everything that is going on. Feel like I dont really have anything profound to offer other than some simple observations about play style - which I'm not sure yeilds great results, but thats what is coming natural.

 

This Red thing is interesting, especially because immediately after her post Bleedin Green agreed and had similar sentiments. Which makes me curious why he didnt get any votes. I like the idea of competing trains which was brought up a couple of post above. Curious why Bleedin Green wouldnt be the other train?

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 6:49 PM, Hybrid said:

To add to my previous post:

 

The thing that really did it for me wasn't just the NK speculation -- because I can maybe buy skepticism over the number of NKs --, it was this:

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 4:46 PM, Red2111 said:

another question on the subject of there being 3 kills, i wonder what prevented them as well. theres a slew of roles that coudl be in place that could block a Kill, but thats a whole lot of good guessing imo and i don't like coinsedences

 

No survivor would have said this.

 

Add to that Red's unwillingness or inability to address the reasons at hand and the defensiveness of her reaction and there's very little that will persuade me to vote elsewhere today.

 

 

Barm also said something along the lines of wishing there had been a NK for imformational value.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:58 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:34 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

9) The only thing I'm hiding are me treasures that you a-holes keep trying to steal.

 

 

 

... and BOOM ... the Pirate shows us his ass.

 

Based on CTM trying to steal from me, me trying to steal from Pac on N1, and both of us coming up empty handed... and both CTM and Pac being my strongest reads for fellow survivors, I think its a somewhat safe hypothesis to make that the survivors started with nothing.

 

So DPR's "treasure" that he keeps referring to... has me thinking he's no survivor.

 

Red, DPR and Smash are my favorites.

 

I was successful in my steal from you yesterday a-hole.. came up empty tho.

 

and I really don't see the point in talking about if you know what I mean. DPR had already sloppily exposed himself enough.

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:59 PM, BooBoo said:

Its interesting that some of the people who've been called out for not posting much based on "meta" which I figured out was historical play, started posting a bit more namely DPR and Smash.

 

I'll openly admit, I'm not posting much because its a bit hard to grasp everything that is going on. Feel like I dont really have anything profound to offer other than some simple observations about play style - which I'm not sure yeilds great results, but thats what is coming natural.

 

This Red thing is interesting, especially because immediately after her post Bleedin Green agreed and had similar sentiments. Which makes me curious why he didnt get any votes. I like the idea of competing trains which was brought up a couple of post above. Curious why Bleedin Green wouldnt be the other train?

 

No worries. He's on the docket for tomorrow... fact is, he defended a bit better... and Red's obviousness is just more glaring.

Posted

This gets me up to my bookmark.

 

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 5:31 PM, WWWwombat said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 5:30 PM, John McClane said:

I'm guessing that Red is a house member - based on his statements above, and the fact that if he weren't on a team he wouldn't have been brought in as a replacement so quickly. Whoever it was that he replaced Kast (or something like that) was a no-show and replaced almost immediately, while others went through D1 with 1-3 posts... I'm guessing there were some whiny teammates beckoning for a replacement.

 

Red is female. And be careful. That argument is outside the spirit of the game imo.

Yeah, Kivam ISN’T known for his brains and forethought… O.o

 

BTW, I LOVE metagaming. But your whole argument can’t be based on that.

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 7:04 PM, WWWwombat said:

The kill blocking speculation isn't that bad to me. There are probably a lot of LanniStarks in this game.

Here’s the thing that Wombat kinda sorta touched. We most likely will need a faction by end game. A dwindling crap ton of solo survivors against a recruiting cult with no one else backing them up… Point being, you lynch anyone not clearly survivor and you are going to end up screwing the whole end game. The cult grows while you take out your chances of being able to play the numbers game against them. I assume 3 relatively equal team numbers to start. Some switch, some stay, many die, cult grows, cult wins. Think, please.

 

As a whole, cult hunting is going to be difficult, but in the end, only Stark/Lannister hunting only allows the cult to win. *looking at you, verbal.*

 

That said, *grins* I do see how the solo win against the cult brings it to base mafia.

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 7:08 PM, John McClane said:

What were you able to take? Curious because I was also successful with my steal, and if its something I'm assuming all survivors started with, and my target had nothing for me to steal... then I may have found a non-survivor.

… Because it is clearly not plausible for someone to have been pick-pocketed before you got there? Your later post sounds like they had squat, maybe a misread… Even if that was the case, how do you know they weren’t previously clever enough to steal from someone else? Basically if I read correctly, you are presuming more information that you can possibly have… again. And using purely circumstantial evidence to make a case… again.

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 8:13 PM, WWWwombat said:

But seriously, not buying it. All attitude, no info.

Agreed.

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 8:17 PM, John McClane said:

I will say this, I played in a conversion game with here here recently and she was converted early and almost quit because she didn't want to lie to me, we were on a small town team together. I also learned during that game that many here consider her big game, and knew she'd be converted early. If the cult converter is a DM personality, Lily is someone I think they'd target for a conversion... possibly.

Reread my comment to you about meta. Meta must go hand in hand with EVIDENCE or it’s just a load of crap.

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 8:28 PM, CTM said:

I just think it's lame.. anyway, smash and wwwormbat clearly don't know why there was no NK's... so smash in particular is clearly not a survivor..

I thought it was Smash, Red and BG. Did I miss something from Wombat?

Posted
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:58 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:53 PM, Lanthirrhos said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:48 PM, Pac said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:47 PM, Lanthirrhos said:
  On 8/17/2011 at 8:24 PM, Pac said:

Interesting that Lanth has seen fit to tuck tail and run for cover while the Red lynch continues. Pretty sure her recent posts make her as "guilty" as any of the top candidates.

 

I'm sorry, what's your point exactly? Do you want a "I like my vote where it is" pointless post again? or do merely want me to sit on my rear and hang on your every word? #IHaveALife,U? :tongue:

 

Unlike some, I wouldn't make you a sammich with a 30 foot pole.

 

I can smell your fear.

 

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Good casework. If there was ever reason to fear a game, if would be an amazing piece of provable evidence that I am scum, because townies just LOVE to die. /sarcasm for the mentally unenlightened.

 

are you flirting with me?

 

I have some smileys for that. I'll PM you.

 

Could someone Spell out "pac's case" againt me (as John put it) becaue frankly, I've not even seen it--at all. o someone give me an outsider's perspective, because I just hear monkey noises from Pac. Which seems to me to be an odd turn around from trying to kill him yesterday (for admittedly, no real reason. :tongue: ) Someone with a brain spell it out for me. Because my brain isn't enough to translate.

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