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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:01 PM, Verbal32 said:

<3

 

 

Ok, back to the game. At this point, I'm cool with lynching Jack. If I was a Stark or Lannister, I'd be worried he'd flock to the other side. If I was a survivor, I'd be worried that he'd fock to the opposite side that I did. And if I was cult, I would not recruit him due to his penchant for getting his butt lynched quickly.

 

And all that is if I actually believe him....which I'm not sure I do. Therefore, my vote won't be moving unless something drastic comes along.

If you're a survivor and you join the faction that's losing you deserve to lose cause you're an idiot...

 

Ape seems to me to be a member of some faction, lets lynch him and then all join the other side..

 

 

Jack seems to me to be a survivor cause he said some things that I was surprised he knew, as I originaly I thought i was "the survivor" as opposed to "a survivor"

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  On 8/16/2011 at 1:31 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/16/2011 at 1:13 PM, Jack_D said:

Lulz you say I'm cluttering the thread yet you feel the need to respond to every post. Thus further cluttering the thread, but it's okay for you to do so.

 

I quietly voted you John, Barm asked why and I explained.

 

To go with your first option, what if your cult?

 

You didn't quietly vote me. You voted me, then in separate posts called me a "viable lynch candidate", a statement that had nothing backing it up, and you encouraged others to vote me. Nothing quiet about that, which is why I began defending myself. Defending myself forces me to have to respond to you, much to my chagrin.

 

I should have ignored you and let you chase your tail.

 

Since you've essentially told us you are going to align yourself with either the Starks or the Lannisters, lynching you is like pre-emptively lynching a faction member. Your eagerness to reveal as a survivor also resonates as an outcry to be recruited by cult. Basically, you reek like someone trying to find their way onto a team. So, based on your theories about the "game schematics" you'd make a fine lynch candidate.

 

Unvote

Vote Jack

 

I've got to spend time on work now. I'll read along, but I won't have time to play patty-cake with teh Jacktard.

 

Yes I'm going to join a faction. That's how you win. You win together or die alone. And now your voting me for the same reason I'm voting you. To kill a potential threat, or eliminate a member of a team thus influencing my choice of team I'd chose.

 

By siding with someone ape you don't become one of them, you become a banmerman. There is a difference

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  On 8/16/2011 at 1:23 PM, Verbal32 said:

Not really, Jack. You remember that time you confirmed a scum slats as town and he coasted to win? Or the time when your lie was so atrocious that even though you found a scum Lily, you still got lynched and nobody believed you? Just because you figure something out doesn't mean it works - you still have to convince the town....and you don't because of your antics. Really, it's the same problem the Ape has. You guys are more alike than either of you would like to admit. ;-)

QFMFT.

 

There are no two players in mafia history who's reveals I will ever believe any less than either Jack or the Ape. Both are notoriously full of crap in these games, and as such are even hard to believe when you have every reason in the world to think they are town.

 

That said, I'm definitely not a particular fan of Jack's play up until now, so wouldn't be overly against going there. Of course, I have felt that way pretty much every time I've played with Jack, regardless of his alignment, so I'm not sure what the hell that really means.

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

If you're a survivor and you join the faction that's losing you deserve to lose cause you're an idiot...

 

Ape seems to me to be a member of some faction, lets lynch him and then all join the other side..

 

Jack seems to me to be a survivor cause he said some things that I was surprised he knew, as I originaly I thought i was "the survivor" as opposed to "a survivor"

Other than him doing his normal thing of trying to save his own ass at all costs (I'm waiting for the bulletproof claim any minute now), what exactly makes you think he's a faction member?

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

If you're a survivor and you join the faction that's losing you deserve to lose cause you're an idiot...

 

Gee thanks, Capt Obvious. It was more meant to be if a survivor joined the Starks now and then later on the balance shifted and Jack joined the Lannisters, which makes the balance even more shifted.

 

 

 

I'm wondering how many survivors are currently in the game right now.....

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:10 PM, Jack_D said:

Yes I'm going to join a faction. That's how you win. You win together or die alone. And now your voting me for the same reason I'm voting you. To kill a potential threat, or eliminate a member of a team thus influencing my choice of team I'd chose.

 

By siding with someone ape you don't become one of them, you become a banmerman. There is a difference

 

 

Heh. I'm fine with my vote.

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Vote Count:

 

John McClane (5) - BG, Pac, Jack, Wombat, Vicious

Alys (2) - Mynd, CTM

Booboo(1) - Nae

Jack (6) - Slats, Verbal, Barm, Alys, Smash,John McClane

Verb (2) - Crusher, JF80

Barm (1) - the Dude

No Lynch (1) - Lanth

JF80 (3) - Hybrid, Lily

Sharrow (1) - BooBoo

Smash (1) - DPR

 

Not voting:

 

FDM

Kast (call for replacements has been made)

Adella

Sharrow

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:14 PM, Bleedin Green said:

Other than him doing his normal thing of trying to save his own ass at all costs (I'm waiting for the bulletproof claim any minute now), what exactly makes you think he's a faction member?

He seems a little clueless as to how the survivor role works, and his little bit about lynching a faction memeber and runnign the setup pinged..

 

Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.. but I'm pretty sure jack is a survivor and lynching him doesn't make sense to me..

 

I think the right plan is to try and lynch cult/faction member.. and hope all the survivors join the opposing faction..

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:16 PM, Verbal32 said:
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

If you're a survivor and you join the faction that's losing you deserve to lose cause you're an idiot...

 

Gee thanks, Capt Obvious. It was more meant to be if a survivor joined the Starks now and then later on the balance shifted and Jack joined the Lannisters, which makes the balance even more shifted.

 

 

 

I'm wondering how many survivors are currently in the game right now.....

WHy would a suvivor join a side now when they are at equal strength? Not exactly a good plan, and unless they are jif/crusher type homosTwins here who play the game solely to get in a QT together, I don't see it being a likely scenario..

 

Dunno, just playing the odds.. If a lannister falls, I imagine many survivors will jump to the starks.. if only because the more that jump, the greater thier numbers advantage will be..

 

in fact, it's probably in the towns best interest to coordinate such an exodus, but I can't imagine gaining cooperation on that..

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:31 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:14 PM, Bleedin Green said:

Other than him doing his normal thing of trying to save his own ass at all costs (I'm waiting for the bulletproof claim any minute now), what exactly makes you think he's a faction member?

He seems a little clueless as to how the survivor role works, and his little bit about lynching a faction memeber and runnign the setup pinged..

 

Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.. but I'm pretty sure jack is a survivor and lynching him doesn't make sense to me..

 

I think the right plan is to try and lynch cult/faction member.. and hope all the survivors join the opposing faction..

 

 

I felt the same thing with Monkey. Jack caught my eye early, but I got that same vibe on him. Try to look past his need to be noticed. LOL

 

unvote

 

vote Maclane

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I don't mind voting for Jack or McLame.

 

Jack is clearly overselling being a survivor, and it makes me uncomfortable with him.

 

I agree that the Ape likely is a member of one of the families, either of which would be a good lynch to start the game.

 

That said, CTM is just as likely to be on the opposing family. In fact, maybe more so. Why else would he first be so against the no-lynch idea because of the cult repercussions, only to now push to set the table for one of the families by taking out the Ape? Most likely, he is looking to unbalance them, and is already pushing the idea of a survivor landslide for the dead Ape's family's enemy. There would be no better move for a member of that family.

 

That said, it wouldn't really bother me. In fact, I would rather be on CTM's landslide team than the Ape's. It's just a matter of how things play out.

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:22 PM, Kivam said:

NOTE: Kast has not checked in, and will be replaced.

 

Vote Count:

 

John McClane (5) - BG, Pac, Jack, Wombat, Vicious

Alys (2) - Mynd, CTM

Booboo(1) - Nae

Jack (6) - Slats, Verbal, Barm, Alys, Smash,John McClane

Verb (2) - Crusher, JF80

Barm (1) - the Dude

No Lynch (1) - Lanth

JF80 (3) - Hybrid, Lily

Sharrow (1) - BooBoo

Smash (1) - DPR

 

Not voting:

 

FDM

Kast (call for replacements has been made)

Adella

Sharrow

unvote

vote John McApe

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:36 PM, Sharrow said:

I don't mind voting for Jack or McLame.

 

Jack is clearly overselling being a survivor, and it makes me uncomfortable with him.

 

I agree that the Ape likely is a member of one of the families, either of which would be a good lynch to start the game.

 

That said, CTM is just as likely to be on the opposing family. In fact, maybe more so. Why else would he first be so against the no-lynch idea because of the cult repercussions, only to now push to set the table for one of the families by taking out the Ape? Most likely, he is looking to unbalance them, and is already pushing the idea of a survivor landslide for the dead Ape's family's enemy. There would be no better move for a member of that family.

 

That said, it wouldn't really bother me. In fact, I would rather be on CTM's landslide team than the Ape's. It's just a matter of how things play out.

Lol.. I wish that was the case, I really do.. But I am just a survivor and will be joining the faction that's winning..

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:31 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:14 PM, Bleedin Green said:

Other than him doing his normal thing of trying to save his own ass at all costs (I'm waiting for the bulletproof claim any minute now), what exactly makes you think he's a faction member?

He seems a little clueless as to how the survivor role works, and his little bit about lynching a faction memeber and runnign the setup pinged..

 

Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.. but I'm pretty sure jack is a survivor and lynching him doesn't make sense to me..

 

I think the right plan is to try and lynch cult/faction member.. and hope all the survivors join the opposing faction..

 

 

So, if I'm hearing you correctly, you are proposing that we discover one faction or another with a quickness, and have everybody hop on the side of the one with the most numbers so that we can end the game as quickly as possible, thus not giving the cult a chance to grow. Is that right?

 

 

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:31 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:14 PM, Bleedin Green said:

Other than him doing his normal thing of trying to save his own ass at all costs (I'm waiting for the bulletproof claim any minute now), what exactly makes you think he's a faction member?

He seems a little clueless as to how the survivor role works, and his little bit about lynching a faction memeber and runnign the setup pinged..

 

Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.. but I'm pretty sure jack is a survivor and lynching him doesn't make sense to me..

 

I think the right plan is to try and lynch cult/faction member.. and hope all the survivors join the opposing faction..

 

 

Not clueless, in fact look above at where I said "Heh. I'm good with my vote." in response to Jack talking about the survivor win condition. He's omitted some of the actual survivor win conditions - if he's a survivor, then he didn't read his PM closely enough.

 

The "little bit" you are talking about was me asking questions that Jack should have asked himself before proposing that there is a 2-2-2 setup. I know you want to kill me, but you lack of attention to detail on both of these "reasons" is pretty glaring.

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  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

Jack seems to me to be a survivor cause he said some things that I was surprised he knew, as I originaly I thought i was "the survivor" as opposed to "a survivor"

 

Why would you think that?

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:31 PM, CTM said:

He seems a little clueless as to how the survivor role works, and his little bit about lynching a faction memeber and runnign the setup pinged..

 

Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.. but I'm pretty sure jack is a survivor and lynching him doesn't make sense to me..

 

I think the right plan is to try and lynch cult/faction member.. and hope all the survivors join the opposing faction..

Yeah, the ruining the setup thing seemed really peculiar to me as well, but I didn't know what to make of it. What he's saying is "ruining the setup" is really the entire purposeful design of the game. I'm kind of conflicted though on him being a faction member based on that because in order for that to work as a defense in his favor, he'd have to actually reveal as a faction member, and I seriously doubt he's about do that (although he should feel free to do so if he's so inclined). Just strange.

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:36 PM, Sharrow said:

I don't mind voting for Jack or McLame.

 

Jack is clearly overselling being a survivor, and it makes me uncomfortable with him.

 

I agree that the Ape likely is a member of one of the families, either of which would be a good lynch to start the game.

 

That said, CTM is just as likely to be on the opposing family. In fact, maybe more so. Why else would he first be so against the no-lynch idea because of the cult repercussions, only to now push to set the table for one of the families by taking out the Ape? Most likely, he is looking to unbalance them, and is already pushing the idea of a survivor landslide for the dead Ape's family's enemy. There would be no better move for a member of that family.

 

That said, it wouldn't really bother me. In fact, I would rather be on CTM's landslide team than the Ape's. It's just a matter of how things play out.

I LOLed at the bolded... damn no rep.

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:10 PM, Jack_D said:

Yes I'm going to join a faction. That's how you win. You win together or die alone. And now your voting me for the same reason I'm voting you. To kill a potential threat, or eliminate a member of a team thus influencing my choice of team I'd chose.

 

By siding with someone ape you don't become one of them, you become a banmerman. There is a difference

 

Ugh. Since the JN group is more interested in lynching me to be dooshes, and not paying attention to the game, I'll make this more blatant.

 

This is NOT the only win condition for a survivor. I am a survivor. I don't think Jack is... this post above was informed by this part of the opening scene:

 

The Stark House and Bannermen will win when all of the Lannister House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead. The Lannister House and Bannermen will win when the Stark House and Bannermen, and all Cultists, are dead.

Survivors can win with either the Starks or the Lannisters, so long as they are alive at endgame. And survivors have the option of joining either the Stark or Lannister faction.

 

And if the Cult wins, everyone else loses.

 

I agree that Jack has said some thing that made me believe he was a survivor, but he could have easily gleaned that info from a different role PM and the opening scene. Him not knowing the survivor win conditions exposes him as either not a survivor, or someone who didn't read his PM.

Posted

Unvote Sharrow - she's a boy

Vote John McClane - just following the lead here. But also, does he post a lot to anyone else? Seems like that might get annoying further down the line as its so much too read.

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:55 PM, BooBoo said:

Unvote Sharrow - she's a boy

Vote John McClane - just following the lead here. But also, does he post a lot to anyone else? Seems like that might get annoying further down the line as its so much too read.

 

If we played over at JN I would rep the ish out of this post. Somewhere, JiF is LULZING

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:55 PM, BooBoo said:

Unvote Sharrow - she's a boy

Vote John McClane - just following the lead here. But also, does he post a lot to anyone else? Seems like that might get annoying further down the line as its so much too read.

 

Yes. I post a lot and its annoying, but it also moves the game along.

 

I just pointed out that Jack doesn't know the Survivor win conditions, but its cool... follow the lead, vote me. :rolleyes:

Posted
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:45 PM, Hybrid said:
  On 8/16/2011 at 2:07 PM, CTM said:

Jack seems to me to be a survivor cause he said some things that I was surprised he knew, as I originaly I thought i was "the survivor" as opposed to "a survivor"

 

Why would you think that?

Cause the first ting I read was my role and when I read my role I thought I was the only survivor.. it fit with my character

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