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[Myndrunner]

Activity during the Night Phase typically only feeds intel to the mafia. Unless you are trying to mess with them.

[JenLenaMom]

You managed a pretty peaceful night until you heard a clamor form the lake. Approaching the shore you see that the Visigoths have risen early to have a mock battle aboard their ship. What they haven't noticed yet is that there is a large hole in the side of the boat, just at the water line. As they continue their fun they continue to sink until it is too late for them to try to shed their heavy armor and make the swim to shore.

 

Alanna, innocent, the Capital One Visigoths, has been night killed.

 

 

It is now Day 4 which will end Thursday June 2nd, at 4pm CST. With 7 alive the majority is 4. Happy hunting.

[Niniel]

I have done a quick scanning of Alannas post and I understand why mafia choose her. She was generally helpful but didn´t case anyone. I think Trench has disappeared from my FOS list since Pruthvish voted him. I´m not saying you won´t be back there but for now I will not focus on you.

 

I keep asking myself why Mynd isn´t dead. First I thought that mafia expected the doc to heal him since he has been very helpful in lynching the right ones. But then I remembered that there probably isn´t a doc left. (Doc would be the psykiatrist, or am I wrong here?) With any other player I would consider Mynd to be the towniest town but Mynd is playing so weird sometimes so you just know with him. Anyway, that said you are off my FOS list to.

 

I´m not on my FOS list eighter.

 

That leaves Deadly, Moon, Quibby and Christine. At first sight I would say Moon and Christine looks most suspicious but I don´t like Deadlys sneeky style. Can´t remember if I have noticed anything about Quibby so I have to check him out some more.

 

For now I vote Christine. Give me a good reason and I could change it to Moon or Deadly.

[Quibby]

I've never been in a game with a shrink before, but I assume that psychiatrists (aka, shrinks) are not the same as doctors. A doctor would, you know, actually try to do something about that gaping hole in your guts or that severed arm or whatever, whilst a shrink would talk to you and make you feel bad about your life and bring up uncomfortable topics about your own mother... while you die. That being said, I assume that the doctor is still out there.

 

(This is not a call for a reveal. Do not reveal. Do not hint. Keep us in the dark as long as humanly possible.)

 

Just making myself clear.

[Niniel]

You may be right. I just thought they both could have a healing ability and that JLM just choose to use that word instead. Is it anything you could confirm or deny JLM?

[danneric]

Hmmmmmm this is getting deep... lets see what the next few posts brings.

[Christine]

Really, so I am being named Mafia now? On what grounds?

 

Have we really all forgotten Trench so easily? He was aimed to be the next lynch target until Pruth came out of no where with his random voting. And at least he flipped psycho killer.

 

With 7 left, it takes 4 to lynch. I am going to stick with my previous theory that there is 1-2 Mafia left.

 

That being said, I would guess that the two Mafia are Trench with possibly Moon.

 

 

VOTE TRENCH for Lynch.

 

 

Yes, it rhymes. Bite me.

[Moon Sedai]

Vote Trench

for all the reasons I've previously used.

 

 

[Niniel]

What a surprice - Christine and Moon voteing together again.

[Niniel]

And not to forget about the new ' posting but actually doesn't contribut with anything' post from Deadly.

[trench]

Really, so I am being named Mafia now? On what grounds?

 

Have we really all forgotten Trench so easily? He was aimed to be the next lynch target until Pruth came out of no where with his random voting. And at least he flipped psycho killer.

 

With 7 left, it takes 4 to lynch. I am going to stick with my previous theory that there is 1-2 Mafia left.

 

That being said, I would guess that the two Mafia are Trench with possibly Moon.

 

 

VOTE TRENCH for Lynch.

 

 

Yes, it rhymes. Bite me.

 

Check out the bolded section,

 

Christine was lock step with Ahmoon yesterday in her assumptions that I am scum. She casually would throw out that she was suspicious of Ahmoon, but never made much of a case to the effect. But not 12 hours into the day she has casted a vote on me, and cassually FOS'd Ahmoon again.

 

Most of yesterdays conversation was Ahmoon casing me while I defended and cased her back. So I have to ask, do you think me and Ahmoon are playing a Mafia race to get lynched ploy? Right now to me, it seems that you capitalizing on 2 Townies trying to lynch each other. So I say thats a HUGE FOS on Christine for not picking a side.

 

With Ahmoon also throwing a Vote on me (big suprise there) I would like to refer you to all of the defenses I have previously used.

[trench]

Oh and techincally Trench and Lynch dont rhyme. The last syllables are 'ench and 'inch, and while they do have 'ch sound, they dont actually flow in speach well. Trust me in this, I am something of an expert.

 

Sorry, I know I am a jerk, but I couldn't help myself.

[Christine]

Boo.

 

Anyways, Moon and I have both made our own separate cases. And yes, while I do have suspicions on Moon, there has always been more votes for Trench than there is for Moon, and if you think two people are Mafia and there is more votes for one than the other, why not keep trying to vote that way?

 

If the votes go for Moon, I will vote Moon. Otherwise, I am going with Trench.

 

Please note, I did move my jump to Pruth. I am willing to help the majority to get a controlled lynch.

[Quibby]

Ummm... yeah...

 

Christine, Ahmoondah, Trench, would you guys just have a seat over there for a little bit? I've some reading to do....

[Quibby]

Tsk, tsk, tsk... All three of you should be very, very ashamed of yourselves. Well, two of you, anyway. The third is guilty by association.

 

Trench, you know that I've been wondering about you all game, and without Kill to deflect that suspicion anymore, you glow all the brighter. Now, I could rehash all the old arguments, but there's only one question that I have for you right now: on the day after Csarmi and GMaster died, you wondered why the scumbags had gone after GMaster. So...

How do you know that they went after GMaster and not Csarmi?

 

I have been thinking about the mafia's choice for an NK last night. I have read and reread all of GMaster's posts, and he said nothing IMO that indicates he was the Vig. So why kill him? Like Mynd said he was a candidate for a lynch today along with, Ahmoon, Myself and Csarmi. This is my crackpot theory, and I think it holds water. The Mafia wanted to slim down the candidate list so they could focus on their intended targets, me and Csarmi.

 

If you look at it the only person who was after both me and Csarmi, was Ahmoon. I think her and her Mafia friends decided, to get rid of one of the options so they could lynch me or Csarmi. Except Gmaster fell into their trap and killed Csarmi, a Townie. That left me and now they are going ahead with a lynch on me. I can assure you all I am Town and will flip that way. The mafia have controlled yesterdays lynch, which backfired, and are now going after me.

 

With Christine backing Ahmoon's play here I think we can trust that one of the 2 are Mafia, Christine has mostly Bandwagoned on votes and could just be setting up Ahmoon for a frame scam, or they are in it together. Right now I think that Ahmoon is the best candidate for a Lynch, so Vote Ahmoon

 

If the town does decide to lynch me, once the dust settles, and I have been proven innocent, the rest of the town will know who to look at.

 

Now, Christine and Ahmoondah. Stitched together at the hip, you two are. Ever since the beginning of the game, Christine has followed where Ahmoondah has led, and mimicked nearly every single action she's made. There are a few options on this one. First is that it's just a long string of coincidences, nothing more. I doubt this because it's been going on far too long. The second is that one of the two is scum, and is trying to link their action to the other. In this case, it would seem more likely that this would be Christine, as she's the one reacting to Ahmoondah, not the other way around. The third option is both are scum, and Christine is following the leader. The second two seem more likely to me out of all three, with the second being the most likely of all.

 

Now, I already know who I want to vote for right now, but in the interest of fairness, does anybody have anything to say about these accusations?

[Christine]

Hold up now. So because I had someone to vote for, or I saw reason in Moon's voting, that makes me guilty of being scum?

 

Let's go back and flip through this.

 

On Day 1, I voted first for Mynd, but was poked for jumping on the bandwagon. So, I changed my vote to Lily, almost in a joke. After a bunch of talk, Tina voted for Lily for no good reason, and I pointed out my suspicion of Red, but wasn't going to shift my vote a third time on the same day. Then, Trench and csarmi both voted for Lily, followed by Kill and Moon jumping on that bandwagon for a controlled lynch. Key voted as well for Lily, but Lily still died from random. Pruth then voted late for Lily?

 

Day 2. Red, who was my next target for Mafia, was killed during the night and flipped mafia. Kill was very defensive of Red, and so Mynd, Tina, Moon, and Pruth voted for Kill. Good reason to vote for him. I was very suspicious of Kill, given that I was also suspicious of Red, but I did not jump onboard, waiting to see what happened. Alanna then voted for Kill, followed by myself, 1. because I was suspicious of him and 2. we were only off by 1 more for a controlled lynch. Gmaster sealed the deal with that one.

 

Day 3. I then pointed out that Moon was either getting very lucky or that she was Mafia. I pointed Moon out for Mafia. I saw that there was 1 vote for Trench, who I was already suspectful of, and 1 vote for Moon. I didn't really care who at that point I would vote for, jsut as long as it was a controlled lynch. I had no other good suspects. Then, out of no where, Pruth votes for Mynd. I vote for Trench, but I was still glad to shift my vote with majority. I then shifted my vote to Pruth, and then there was 4 of us voting for him, Moon not one of them. Moon shifted at the last minute for a controlled lynch.

 

Day 4. I go back to my previous idea of voting Trench. Why? because the only other suspect on the board at the moment is me. Obviously I am not going to vote for myself, especcially because I am not Mafia. Moon had also been suspicious of Trench, so she voted for him as well.

 

Now, that being all said, after flipping back through these logs, I am more and more suspicious of Tina.

 

 

So. Was I bandwaggonning with Moon? Not at all. Are we helping each other? Not at all. As can clearly be seen by our voting. Is it jumping on board if the target is being voted for for a very good reason? Of course not.

 

 

Target List: Trench, Moon, Tina.

[Quibby]

Now we're cooking!

 

The problem with that argument is that, boiled down, it becomes, "I'm not doing anything scummy! Just ask me!"

 

The other problem is that, being short a finder, the only 100% certainty of anything comes from a lynch. It's why I'm not casting my vote yet. I want to consider my findings with other people's, coupled with the opposing viewpoints of those who have been Suspiciously Fingered (or something like that).

 

I do acknowledge that the connection that I suspect may not be there, but there's no way to be sure besides your word, and the past postings do strongly suggest it.

[trench]

Well Quibby, at the time, I didn't think there was an SK left in the game. It seemed obvious at the time that the Vig killed Csarmi by accident. With Pruthvish flipping SK on us though, it makes my post moot. I agree that that post sorta looks like leading, but I did not have all the info at the time. With a Vig, Sk and Mafia in the game, there is no real way to know who killed who each night. So I will back off that particular case, and its the main reason I have not started beating the "lets lynch Ahmoon drum" again today.

[JenLenaMom]

Vote count

Christine (1): Tina

Trench (2): Christine, Moon

 

Majority is 4.

 

Someone asked about the psychatrist. Thought it was a standard role but I can't check right now. The psych. role is to find and attempt to heal the psycho killer, if successful they both revert to vanilla townies.

[Niniel]

Thanks JLM! Haven´t heard of those roles before and obviously I was to lazy to check them up. Then I guess there still can be a doc in the game.

[Moon Sedai]

Okay, time for me to go on the defense.

Before I continue, I apologize for the wall of text.

I'm here! Luckily I'm no American nor do I watch TV, so I won't loose my night's sleep if the evilies win.

 

 

On day one, Killu hinted that he didn't worry about mafia winning. Had I truly been scum and seen this, I would have left him alone, not built a case against him. I think this was killu trying to hint his symp-ness to the mafia.

 

Red could be mafia. I've played with her in the past, and she's always been a townie, and always had excellent "scumdar."

So it concerns me a little bit that she has a "no lynch" vote on day 1.

 

Key, Lily, and killu are defending Red's "No Vote" thing. They could, all 4, be on a team together.

 

FOS.

I had an FOS vs Key and Killu, both who turned out to be scum, because they defended Red. I still feel bad about pursuing Lily.

 

My thoughts for the night phase and day 2: look REALLY hard at the people who ganged up on Lily (Yes, i know that includes me) and you will probably find scum there.

 

 

Mynd (1): , Gmaster

Lily (9): Christine, Tina,Trench, csarmi, killu, moon, leelou, key, Pruthvish

No Lynch (1): Red

Red (3): Mynd, Quibby, lily

 

 

This does not clear everyone else.

FOS at Pruthvish, posting after the lynch. Yes, new player, but, that does not exonerate you. New Players can often be mafia,

 

My vote for lily was because I thought that she was likely teaming up with a few others because of her defensive behaviors.

I'd like to point out in this first of many casings, I pointed out that scum were likely in the vote vs. Lily, and stated that I was part of it. I would not have done this if I were scum. I would have ignored my part in the vote altogether, and not started casing scum so strongly if I were mafia.

 

Vote Killu

This is not because of Mynd or to be seen as bandwagoning.

I 've reviewed the last day, and I agree that Killu was VERY defensive of Red.

Again, if I were mafia, why would I case someone who defended scum? I would have ignored Kilu altogether, since he had no problems with "evilies winning.".

 

As for killu, the only evidence against him is him defending Red. But there was someone else who defended Red as well, who was that. oh yhea it was Leelou. What role did she have, was it finder or handing out candy to everyone, well either way it was a good one. I bet that if the Mafia had not killed her last night, it would be her at L-3 now and not Killu. So right now I am not going to vote because this Killu lynch has Mafia speed lynching written all over it.

Trench, you seem to be concerned with a 'speed kill.' since Killu flipped symp, that means it may not have been a mafia speed kill after all.

You ended up not voting at all.

Why, if you thought this was a mafia speed lynch, did you not vote for another person?

And you seemed certain that the Mafia killed Red, instead of a possible Vig or Serial Killer.

 

Gmaster, I agree that CSarmi does seem suspicious in trying to throw us off of killu's trail.

 

a comparison of day 1 votes to day 2:

Day 1 vs Christine, Tina, Trench, CSarmi, Killu, Moon, Leelou, Key, Pruthvish

 

Day 2 vs Mynd, Moon, Tina, Pruthvish, Alanna, Christine, Gmaster.

 

In common voting: Moon, Christine, Tina, Pruthvish.

The four of us voted for both Lily and Kill, this does not clear any of us.

 

Voted to lynch innocent Lily and not to lynch the scummy Killu : Trench, CSarmi, Key.

This makes you look far more guilty than the four of us who voted against both.

 

Key is under threat of Mod kill if she doesn't post. I still suspect her for her defense of Red. I was wrong about Lily. And I admit it.

Trench highly cased Leelou and was afraid of a speed kill. Leelou turned innocent.

Here, I notice that in my list of "common votes" versus Lily and Kil are Me, CHristine, Tina, and Pruth. Pruth flipped scum, so I'm inclined to revisit my casing here

But I did note that we were not cleared.

 

I had an FOS on Key before Lily was killed. I said that I thought Lily, Red, Killu and Key were in a group together.

I was only wrong on one.

 

Of the 4 who voted for Lily and not Killu, we're left with Csarmi and Trench.

I called Key's scumminess in her defense of scummy Red. Why would I try to group the four of Red, Lily, Kil and Key as mafia/scum together if I were mafia?

As I said then, I was wrong on one, but 3 of the 4 I cased were scum/anti-town.

WHY would I do that if I were mafia?

 

The strongest defense I have in my favor is only my word that I am a vanilla townie.

Yes, I'll admit, my playstyle has adjusted since last time we played together, Mynd.

I've gotten a little better, I think.

When I am Mafia, I am OVERLY defensive and act EXTREMELY offended at accusations.

 

I'm going to Vote Trench

 

Mostly, this is because of what I said in an earlier post about Trench being one of the 4 who voted FOR lily but not for Killu.

 

Trench, either you are self-defensive townie or scum.

I'm banking on scum.

Tell you guys what: If we lynch Trench Today and he flips innocent, I'll be the first to vote for myself tomorrow.

 

As far as christine goes, I seem to remember an early posting saying this was her first game, perhaps she's persuaded by arguments of more experienced players?

[Quibby]

Be that as it may, she has been gravitating towards you quite a bit. I'm not sold on either you or her being scum, but what I've seen paints a weird picture. Maybe I'm wrongheaded and the only one who wonders about it. If I am, tell me to shut up.

 

Now that I've heard from all the rest, I'm going to vote as I had decided. I didn't hear anything to dissuade me fully from a Trench vote.

[Niniel]

L-1 then? I don´t think I will vote Trench. I feel more scum vibes from Christine. And not to forget about Deadly but noone seems to consider him for a lynch.

[Christine]

Tina, the more you talk, the more scum vibes I get from you.

[JenLenaMom]

Vote count

Christine (1): Tina

Trench (3): Christine, Moon, Quibby

 

Majority is 4. Day ends Thursday June 2nd, at 4pm CST.