First Reread of WOT what ive found

[NitroS]

I started reading the books in about july last year finished them all and started my reread straight away. The thing i noticed within the first 5 chapters is how much foreshadowing there was, egwene being amyrlin (sp) perrin and the wolves and maybe even foreshadowing for rand al thor saying he will come back to the two rivers someday (could happen in amol at one stage).

 

anybody else find alot of new things such as these type of foreshadowing in there reread?

[NitroS]

also didnt realise talanvore (sp) was the same guard from the first book as the one morgase marries in tom

[Sid]

There is a huge amount of foreshadowing in WoT, both very obvious and very subtle. RJ had a knack for it, and it makes rereads really fun.

 

There's a thread in the Structured WoT Discussion forum along these lines Here. Some are damn impressive.

[NitroS]

There is a huge amount of foreshadowing in WoT, both very obvious and very subtle. RJ had a knack for it, and it makes rereads really fun.

 

There's a thread in the Structured WoT Discussion forum along these lines Here. Some are damn impressive.

thanks

[jemron]

This is one of the things that makes RJ so amazing. He is a master of foreshadowing.

 

Interestingly, I was at the midnight release party of ToM last year with Matt Hatch (he runs Theoryland.com) and he had already read the book at that time. He said something very interesting that I haven't forgotten. He said, "I used to think that RJ's biggest strength was foreshadowing, but now I'm starting to think it is red herrings."

 

I really hope there are some really great unexpected twists and turns in the final book!

[Mongoose]

That is true, there have been some pretty formidable red herrings

[udpaco13]

I feel like there are many things done/shown in the first book that are never seen again.

 

The first one I noticed while doing a re-read was Moraine use of a staff to "Focus". We see no other Aes Sedi use another object like this. She swings it around, and shoots fire out of it, and even uses it to gather the scents of their party, and send it down a different path. These are not a simple trick learned on accident, like the stone Moraine uses to eavesdrop.

 

To me this seems to contradict what we know about how Aes Sedi learn to channel. Multiple times we have seen or heard people having trouble recreating weaves because the learned them differently or they need to use their hands while weaving. It seems odd that Moraine is able to use a staff to "Focus" while doing very complicated weaving. Did she learn the weaves while using the staff? She seems to use it for almost everything until she looses it leaving the ways.

 

Another situation I found very odd is when Perrin and Eg are with the tinkers. They leave after one of the wolves is killed in a dream. When Perrin wakes up Elyas can feel something wrong, and knows it is time to leave. The Seeker for the tinkers also feels this "something". Soon after they leave the tinkers they are attacked by huge flocks of Ravens(something else not seen again. If the Shadow could use birds this effectively why do they not do it again?) They are chased into a steading by these ravens. Within the steading they meet Whitecloaks, and Elyas says something like "I thought it was the Ravens, not this" then runs off to never be seen again for many a book.

 

What I cannot understand is what was the "something" they felt. Elyas could have just known that a wolf was killed by the shadow and its time to be going, but how would the seeker know? Additionally Elyas seems to think what he was running from was actually the whitecloaks, which have little to do with the Shadow (sure they have DF's but I doubt they were sent by Ishy/Balamzon).

 

The seeker seemed to have knowledge of what was happening as well. At one point when they are saying their goodbyes the Seeker turns his head as if listening and they confirms they must leave before a feast can be thrown. Do Seekers have special powers/abilities we do not know about?

 

I do not have my book with me to provide quotes, but these were a few that struck me as very odd occurrences that only happen in the first book. Many can be attributed to Moraine being over powered, but others I feel like were written before the "laws of physics" were clearly established in Robert Jordan's mind.

[idiostock]

On the staff- I doubt it, but in another, fake character, it could be similar to need to use gestures to channel.

 

Allow me to explain, because that felt really unclear- Taim, I believe, explains to Rand that some of the Asha'man learned a weave in conjunction with a motion, and from there had to perform the gesture to spin the web. It could be the same with the staff.

[NitroS]

Just finished the first book and picked up on another one about kamelyn (sorry im listening to audio books so my spelling will be bad). Moraine said if they ever found out about the way gate in kamelyn that there would be fire and trollocs everywhere, then at the end of tom they see a kamelyn burning from the waygate passage. Liked this foreshadow alot. i love when books go back to things that happened ages ago and incorporate it like mat's ashendarie (sp)

 

Also in the first book you notice that when moraine is vsing the forsaken her weaves of fire arent doing anything to them and he just keeps walking but if this was done in the later books its always about cutting weaves and sending new ones back at the enemy channeling i thought the descriptions at the end there were alot better then modern time aes sedai battles.

 

One more thing is i noticed that moraine always says touching the true source, which is never refered to in later books its always the one power.

[Luckers]

Hey guys, given the number of threads being started by people documenting their first read or first re-read of the Wheel, I am now directing people to two alternatives. Firstly, there is our blog system wherein you can relate your thoughts and feelings upon the series, secondly there is the Structured Wheel of Time, where you can discuss things with others up to the book you have currently read.

 

But multiple threads on the same topic are getting excessive, and I do not see how a joint thread can work--therefore, the blog for relation of your thoughts, and the Structured forum for discussion.