[Advanced Mafia] Black Ajah - GAME OVER!

[Blackhoof]

i agree.

[dapianoplay3r]

Im not the SK but I think that they will also have to be on the lynch to get their kill. So to me that means its someone who has been on the lynches the mafia weren't on preceding a night kill or two.

[Blackhoof]

Well, alanna said that the mafia had to be on a lynch to get an NK, not a potential SK.

 

@BG, i just noticed this now, looking at your list down the page, why is Drew, Player, Aust Krak and yourself listed as "town?"

 

are you privy to information we are not, or have i misunderstood your isage of the label "town"?

[bgrishinko]

Well, alanna said that the mafia had to be on a lynch to get an NK, not a potential SK.

 

@BG, i just noticed this now, looking at your list down the page, why is Drew, Player, Aust Krak and yourself listed as "town?"

 

are you privy to information we are not, or have i misunderstood your isage of the label "town"?

 

Oh, oops, that was an accidental reuse of colors. That's kinda confusing, my bad. I messed up. The 3 (myself, Drew, and Krak2.0) are supposed to be listed as purple on Day 3 and 4. Player should be a light green, and the label should read "On No lynches before Day 4".

[bgrishinko]

Okay, so I've been thinking about this Player argument and vote for a second and it doesn't make sense to me. We know that Player can't have been on any of the team earned NK's (except maybe day 4... but the chances there seem slim to me) so that means if he WAS scum, he wouldn't be helping his team very well.

 

Now let us imagine he is a SK. There has only been 1 town killed by NK. Day 2, Wombat. Being as there was a successful lynch that day, I'm reluctant to think it was the result of a SK, but more of a scum earned NK. As such, even if Player is a SK... I'm more inclined to think he is a Vigilante and has been a help to the town. If he isn't a Vig or a SK, he isn't helping his scum team too well.

 

No matter what, he hasn't been a threat to the town. I think a Player lynch is foolish.

[bgrishinko]

You know, I just puzzled something out... if Drew is innocent, then the only possible partners he has are Aust/Krak2.0 and Player... but Krak and Player don't seem to be getting along... so Drew, if innocent can only be on one of their teams. A team of two seems highly unlikely. Interesting. What say you?

[bgrishinko]

Vote Drew

[Krakalakachkn]

I say that I'm starting to believe Player after looking through the evidence again.

[bgrishinko]

@Curt, what are your opinions on Player?

[DrewRiley]

You know, I just puzzled something out... if Drew is innocent, then the only possible partners he has are Aust/Krak2.0 and Player... but Krak and Player don't seem to be getting along... so Drew, if innocent can only be on one of their teams. A team of two seems highly unlikely. Interesting. What say you?

 

BG, I have no idea what you're saying. Why are you assuming Aust and Krak 2.0 are innocent? Why do I have to be on a team with one of them? I have no clue where this came from.

[bgrishinko]

You know, I just puzzled something out... if Drew is innocent, then the only possible partners he has are Aust/Krak2.0 and Player... but Krak and Player don't seem to be getting along... so Drew, if innocent can only be on one of their teams. A team of two seems highly unlikely. Interesting. What say you?

 

BG, I have no idea what you're saying. Why are you assuming Aust and Krak 2.0 are innocent? Why do I have to be on a team with one of them? I have no clue where this came from.

 

Fellow townsfolk, Hear me out here.

 

As this is a team based game, I'm assuming that Innocent people would never vote for each other's team mates except maybe during Day 1 randomness. Especially on a lynch. This means that everyone that voted for Drew on Day 3, could not possibly be on Drew's team.

 

We have 9 remaining players:

 

3. Curt

4. bgrishinko

5. leelou

7. Krak 2.0 9. Player

10. Drew

12. Meesh

14. AJ

15. Blackhoof

If I eliminate those players that voted for Drew, plus Drew and me we get this:

7. Krak 2.0 9. Player These are the only people who didn't vote for Drew ignoring the dead scum.

Now Drew, you can't have been on Berf or Phelix's town team either since you voted for them. They can't have been on each other's teams as Berf voted Phelix.

So, by process of elimination, that means you could have only been on Krak/Aust's team or Player's team assuming innocence on only your part to say nothing of the other two people. Being as the two of them aren't playing nice right now, they wouldn't be on the same Town team either. Which leaves us with you and one of them as the only plausible team choice.

And now you subtly cast doubts on both of their innocence in your last post... leaving you with nobody. I wanted to believe you on Day 3 Drew, I really did, but... this looks pretty bad to me.

[DrewRiley]

BG - this is a good idea, and we might be able to use it to case someone, but the assumption you make in your first statement just isn't right:

 

As this is a team based game, I'm assuming that Innocent people would never vote for each other's team mates except maybe during Day 1 randomness. Especially on a lynch. This means that everyone that voted for Drew on Day 3, could not possibly be on Drew's team.

 

I wasn't lynched. My teammates could easily have been voting for me on that day, because I wasn't killed. In fact, if a lynch looked inevitable, a good townie would encourage his teammates to jump on board to try to prevent scum from earning an NK. So it's not a bad idea, but I think you assume too much.

[CurtisScafe]

As for Player I don't think he is BA. I don't know how a SK works, maybe they need to be on a lynch as well. If you suspect him then Leelou should also be looked at as she didnt vote twice as well

 

I am with Drew on the team not voting for team thing. I think if they know a teammate is going to die anyway they will vote to get the lynch. Or as was done they will vote and remove a vote

 

Out of the remaining players I think:

 

BA or SK

4. bgrishinko

15. Blackhoof

10. Drew

 

Town

12. Meesh

14. AJ

3. Curt

5. leelou

7. Krak 2.0

9. Player

vote BG

Because he still smells suspicious based on my reasonings I gave when I picked my 3 likely for BA. He also voted on the last lynch so that doesnt help his case either.

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Player (1) - Blackhoof

Drew (1) - BG

BG (1) - Curt

 

Not Voting (6): Player, Drew, Meesh, leelou, AJ, Krak 2.0

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[bgrishinko]

 

I wasn't lynched. My teammates could easily have been voting for me on that day, because I wasn't killed. In fact, if a lynch looked inevitable, a good townie would encourage his teammates to jump on board to try to prevent scum from earning an NK. So it's not a bad idea, but I think you assume too much.

 

 

 

I am with Drew on the team not voting for team thing. I think if they know a teammate is going to die anyway they will vote to get the lynch. Or as was done they will vote and remove a vote

 

 

I don't know what kinda logic that is. I wouldn't vote for my town teammates just to make sure we get a lynch and avoid scum getting one. I would not willingly kill someone I knew was town. The only reason I'd do that is to prevent the game from ending. I may be assuming too much, but it is the best I have to go on right now.

 

Also, Curt, you are implying that I look like scum because I helped lynch csarmi? That is odd to me.

[CurtisScafe]

No I am saying you are scum based on my ongoing analysis from the previous days. I can repost it if you want to. The last vote just adds to it

[Blackhoof]

well, BG, you make a compelling case, alhtough riddled with assumptions. you have convinced me that drew is more likely a threat than Player, so i will vote Drew for now.

[bgrishinko]

No I am saying you are scum based on my ongoing analysis from the previous days. I can repost it if you want to. The last vote just adds to it

 

Fair Enough.

[Alanna]

well, BG, you make a compelling case, alhtough riddled with assumptions. you have convinced me that drew is more likely a threat than Player, so i will vote Drew for now.

 

Psst. You need to unvote ;)

[Blackhoof]

hehehe, right....

 

unvote

 

vote drew

[Krakalakachkn]

Vote BG

[Leelou]

Sorry, after my last post I had to take my dad to the hospital and haven't had time to go through the thread as much as I would have wanted to.

 

I'm going to vote for BG for scummy vibes. Blackhoof and drew are not that far behind you on my scummy list.

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Drew (2) - BG, Blackhoof

BG (3) - Curt, Krak, Leelou

 

Not Voting (4): Player, Drew, Meesh, AJ

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[bgrishinko]

All right. Look guys, I didn't want to reveal anything out of fear of being nightkilled... but I have a very helpful power that we don't want to lose as town. I'll reveal if I need to in order to save myself, but I'd rather not unless it is necessary.

[DrewRiley]

Umm, I think your threat of a power reveal is a little premature, BG, given that you're only at L-2 and the game hasn't exactly been fast-paced today. Seems a little panicky to me.