Unresolved Plotlines Thread

[Crael123]

Well I could not find one so i figured I'd make one. Sooooo I will start.

 

Black Tower Plotline

 

This is simple. It will be Logain, his supporters, the aes sedai, and possibly Rand fighting Taim, the new Dreadlords who got turned, the evil asha'man and the dark aes sedai. possibly the remainder of the Black Ajah who escaped the purge. Taim and Logain will have their showdown. I think Perava will bond Androl.

 

 

 

Who is Demandred? And where is he?

 

I think he has been using proxies in Murandy, Black Tower, and Shara. He is behind the red veiled aiels, and he will die to Rand or Logain.

 

 

 

Lanfear: Is she good or bad?

 

Lanfear I have always been curious about. She has always been the forsaken that is most likely to turn good in my opinion. Now, with the epilogue in TOM, she is either the "other" Shadar Haran mentioned and a trap, or she is good for realzy. In this one, i honestly have no idea. This could go either way and still be fantastic.

 

 

Rand and Moridin's Link

 

I am clueless please help.

 

 

Lan

 

He will live. I dont care, he will. If he dies, it wont matter. He will become a hero of the horn either way.

 

 

Sea Folk Lady's question to Rand

 

I dont care, but i thought i would include it anyway.

 

 

The Seanchan

 

Mat will have something to do with it, he always has been the key to them i think. I like the theory that Mat blows the Horn in Tar Valon as the army is invading, and then Artur Hawking talks them down. That would be epic.

 

 

The Aiel's Future

 

I think Avi will arrive before and make rand include the Aiel. Simple fix. That or she will become abstinent.. Which i highly doubt.

 

3 Becoming 1 and other prophecy

 

No idea how any will come to pass.

 

 

Broken Wolf

 

Rand? Iturlade? Lan? Oh my. Who knows.

 

 

 

Well that is my list. feel free to speculate and add more! I will try to update.

[ROB_88]

one thing i've been thinking, do we know what's going on with Liandrin and whoever of her friends are still left alive?

[asha man]

Black Tower Plotline

 

The Asha'man who are loyal to Rand and the Aes Sedai that haven't turned start a resistance to Taim, but it seems like they're hopeless. Perrin goes and takes care of the dreamspike like he meant to, and he lets Rand know about it. Rand sends whatever help he can, maybe going in person. His strike force gathers up the Aes Sedai outside before going in. There are some really big and nasty linked circles formed on both sides. Logain has a strike force of male channelers that he's gotten out of the Black Tower before the dreamspike, and they hit the Black Tower as soon as they can Travel there. They save the Two Rivers channeling men at the last possible second, but only after a bunch have died. Logain kills Taim. The (physical) Black Tower is completely destroyed in the process (a la Avi's vision in Rhuidean). Prisoners are taken, and Nynaeve figures out how to remove the 13x13 effect from them.

 

 

Who is Demandred? And where is he?

 

No clue.

 

 

Lanfear: Is she good or bad?

 

Holy trap batman.

 

 

Rand and Moridin's Link

 

Somehow I think Rand gets killed but ends up taking over Moridin's body through the link.

 

 

Lan

 

He was probably a hero of the horn in the first place, and just doesn't know it. (A bunch of the main characters are probably bound to the horn and just forgot when the pattern spun them out, IMO). Of all the major characters, I think he has the best chance of dying. On the other hand Rand and Nyn are both committed to saving him, and it might not be smart to bet against them. Maybe he ends up leading the combined forces of all of the borderlands? (Assuming they swore to Rand and make it back for the last battle at all).

 

 

Sea Folk Lady's question to Rand

 

Don't know what the question might be, but I bet that bargain is the reason she ends up leading the seafolk.

 

 

The Seanchan

 

This, to me, is the biggest wild card right now. I'm pretty sure they join the forces of the Light (specifically Tuon and Egwene end up having to put aside their differences and join forces). Somehow Tuon is convinced that the practice of damane must end, and her and Mat travel to Seanchan to try and put the Empire back together and free the damane. Avi has a role to play in this as well, I think, because she may try to do whatever she can to see that the wise one damane are freed so that future Aiel have no beef with the Seanchan.

 

 

The Aiel's Future

 

In addition to somehow convincing the Seanchan to free the damane wise ones, Avi convinces the Aiel people to take on a new purpose. They might go back to the Way of the Leaf, or they end up dedicated to enforcing the Dragon's peace.

 

3 Becoming 1 and other prophecy

 

Think it's three channelers using callendor, but it's probably not that simple.

 

 

Broken Wolf

 

No clue.

[Eht Slat Meit]

Black Tower

 

Logain finally earns that glory aura from Min's viewing way back when. Assault on the Black Tower, he smites Taim with the help of his Aes Sedai and Asha'man and without the help of Rand.

 

Demandred

Being a smart little Forsaken and completely hidden in the background, he won't be outed under a particular identity. Instead, we'll learn the full scale of his work in leading the armies of the shadow through various proxies. The debate over Murandy, the Isle of Madmen, Taim and the rest of it will be shown to have been completely moot.

 

Lanfear

 

Lanfear is learning exactly what the last verse of the Dark Prophecy means and being the self-serving wench that she is, is grasping at straws to save herself. Maybe a trap, maybe just incidental, but in no way a legitimate face turn.

MoriRand

Moridin gets smoked by the link when Rand invokes the three-become-one prophecy.

 

Lan

 

The broken wolf, the remains of the Borderlands led by Lan, makes a final stand against the Blight. They lose spectacularly. Nynaeve shows up to fulfill the viewing, then turns into a metaphorical bat out of shay-hell ghul and levels a balefire beat-down before being violently sent off to join Lan among the Heroes of the Horn.

 

Seanchan/Aiel Future

 

Rand does what is necessary to bind the Seanchan and save the Aiel. What that is, not quite sure.

 

Three-Become-One

 

With Moiraine and Cadsuane, Rand channels Saidar, Saidin and the True Power simultaneously through Callandor, granting him the power to break the seals and battle the Dark One. Moridin is a casualty of the effect.

Broken Wolf

 

The Borderlands, represented in Lan's Last Stand.

[Randommer]

Black Tower Plotline

I agree that this'll be Logain's time to shine. Wherever he is... Either that or it'll all just go horribly wrong and nearly cost Rand the LB as his single greatest mismanagement, and Logain will earn his glory some other way.

 

Who is Demandred? And where is he?

I don't think D is anyone in particular. I think he's been staying out of the way. No real idea bout where he's been, but I do think he's behind the red-veiled Aiel and the red-sailed ships in Seanchan. And, just because of the symmetry of it, I agree that Logain might kill him.

 

Lanfear: Is she good or bad?

I think Mierin works for Mierin as Mierin has always worked for Mierin. That said, I don't think the whole dream thing was necessarily a trap. It might have been, but it's also quite possible that Lanfear has had enough of the crappy working conditions of the shadow, or thinks Rand's going to win the LB, and wants to join his side before it's too late.

 

Rand and Moridin's Link

Hmmm... I've always thought Rand was a gonner come the LB, but if he does live I do think the body-swap theory concerning these two is quite likely. I really hope they don't actually become one person in some way, because that would SUCK.

 

Lan

I dunno. I sorta think that it's too obvious for him to die when it's been set up so neatly, and Rand did promise Nynaeve to send him support, which he may well have done considering there's so many gaps in his plotline. And we don't know when exactly Lan's charge is taking place. Also, there's the viewing Min had for him of the baby in the cradle, and RJ said the viewings always refer to the future. And we know from Nyn's pov that she's not pregnant. But having said all that, he might well die anyway.

 

The Seanchan

I think this might be left kind of unresolved, considering RJ had planned an outrigger novel for Mat and Tuon. There must still be plenty of stuff left to do after the LB. I could totally see them joining forces with Rand for the LB, with some help from Mat and possibly Artur Hawkwing, but I'm not sure about the whole damane thing or permanent peace with Randlanders. It would just seem a bit unrealistic for all that stuff to get resolved in one book, with so much else going on.

 

Aiel Future

Well...who knows. Anything could happen there. Once Avi warns Rand about what she saw (which she better, none of that cryptic don't-do-that-but-I-can't-tell-you-why nonsense) then he'll probably throw some big curve ball into the equation and send them on a completely different path altogether. Either that or Avi will take their future into her own hands, and tell them they have to give up on violence or some such.

 

Three becoming one

There's a whole lot of possibilities for that. I don't think the saidin/saidar/true power one is likely though, since RJ said a few times how those are all completely different things with completely different purposes; the TP is in fact the complete antithesis of saidin/saidar.

 

Broken Wolf

Bashere, imo. I think he'll die or be forced somehow to turn to the Shadow, maybe by the capture of Faile (the Fallen Blacksmith's pride?). It is possible that it's Lan though.

[Ananta]

Black Tower Plotline

 

I agree with the threadstarter:

This is simple. It will be Logain, his supporters, the aes sedai, and possibly Rand fighting Taim, the new Dreadlords who got turned, the evil asha'man and the dark aes sedai. possibly the remainder of the Black Ajah who escaped the purge. Taim and Logain will have their showdown. I think Perava will bond Androl.

 

 

 

Who is Demandred? And where is he?

 

I have no idea... I'd like to think that he's Taim, but RJ shot that one down... :( So next best thing is that he is someone pulling the strings that control Taim. D:

 

 

 

Lanfear: Is she good or bad?

 

I'd like to think that she'd turn good, but somehow she just seems too rotten to the core with her selfishness that it's impossible for her to come back to the Light side.

 

Unless, there's this theory I read somewhere, that since she was on the first group to drill into Bore, she got 13x13'd in some über way by Dark One himself.

 

 

Rand and Moridin's Link

 

Now that Rand is Zen, I somehow thought the link was severed... I mean Rand pwnt a shitload of Trollocs and didn't seem weird like back when he was Darth Rand and tried to Channel...

 

 

Lan

 

I think he will be one of the good guys who die. This, of course, will destroy Nynaeve, who ends up Healing death and burning out. (Ok, I don't actually think that will happen.)

 

 

Sea Folk Lady's question to Rand

 

I guess they'll play a role in the end. Probably their "question" ending up fulfilling another prophecy or something.

 

 

The Seanchan

 

With Mat's help, Fortuona sees the light and they give up on Damane. Although Mat's "help" will be collaring Tuon for a while.

 

 

The Aiel's Future

 

Avi saves the day. Aiel turn back to the Way of the Leaf.

 

3 Becoming 1 and other prophecy

 

Either it's Saidin, Saidar and True Power merging somehow while Rand uses Callandor, or it's Rand, LTT and Moridin merging.

 

 

Broken Wolf

 

I somehow hoped this would be Slayer. He'd be to Darkhounds like Perrin is to wolves. And it's said that Darkhounds are twisted wolves, so him being "Broken Wolf" would make sense.

 

But the prophecy isn't actually in keeping with Slayer being Broken Wolf :(

[MattTaz]

I agree with the above comment that it is Logain's time to shine and he'll fix the BT on his own.

The prologue should be about Logain his 2 AS and 3 dedicated and what they are up to, and how Mezar became a zombie.

Just wishful thinking but it would be good of Logain was looking for a fabled Far Madding type of ter'angreal.

Just the idea of Logain's men using swords and bow and Taim's lot not learning how to use them would be awesome.