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A WHEEL OF TIME COMMUNITY

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  1. Loved Perrin and Lanfear's interactions all the way through. She was great in this book. And the way he killed her was just so brutal and ironic. Finally someone remembered that she's evil. I do agree with the person who said that he seemed weirdly unworried about Faile at times, though. I would say that BS was avoiding that particular melodrama on purpose, but I sort of thought the same thing about Min with Rand, so...eh.
  2. Sorry, wacky theory I must post somewhere before I forget: What if Nakomi is Rand in disguise? When Avi encountered her, she seemed to be doing Rand's new Pattern-bending stuff, and we haven't seen anyone else who can do that. A lot of the stuff she said made it sound like she was from a different time ('I am far from my roof, and yet not far at all. Perhaps it is far from me'), and if there was ever a canditate for time-travel, it would seem to be Rand now, having stepped outside of time and the Pattern and seemingly gained some weird understandings while there. He would be concerned enough a
  3. The debate about the whole 'world without DO = no evil' thing... Well that was never how I understood the WoT world. I always assumed like most readers that the characters were capable of being evil in their own right, like regular people, and the DO was just an external force. But then, that was never really explained and it has been discussed here before. So, it turns out that no, the DO is actually just all evil ever, including human evil. Well, alright then. By that definition, the DO is actually an integral part of the Pattern, since the Pattern is both good and evil and tries to balance
  4. Whew just finished! That took longer than I thought, but I wanted to read it properly. I don't quite know how I feel right now...
  5. Oh I'd completely forgotten about all that time stuff. I always sort of had a theory that Rand or someone would figure out how to use the OP to turn the wheel of time backwards, considering the OP is the force that drives it. I have no real evidence for that theory, but then that is the point of this thread. It is interesting that time stuff might come into it in some way, though.
  6. In terms of the Finns being more like the Aos Sídhe, that's not exactly true. The Finns are more like the later versions such as Shakespearean and Victorian fairies, with the iron and music thing and stuff. The Aes Sedai are very much based on the older versions, down to the Warders and all. That's not to say the White Tower doesn't draw a whole lot from the Catholic Church, because it does, but there's a whole lot of Aos Sídhe there too if you read the stories. In terms of what that might mean for their fate, tbh I was of the mind that we won't know what happens to them anyway. I think th
  7. Oh, I was talking about the ToM epilogue...and now I'm confused. Eh, doesn't really matter. Agreed. I'm sort of hoping though that the second chapter was slow-moving at least partly because they knew it was going to be pre-released, and tbh a lot did happen in the first chapter. Too much, imo. Hopefully the pacing evens out over the rest of the book; that much speeding up and sudden braking would make a person ill.
  8. So, I've been reading a lot of mythology lately, and I was reminded of the parallels between the Aes Sedai and the Aos Sídhe (ace sheega) of Irish myth. They were what came to be known as the fairies, and another name for them was the Tuatha Dé Danann (tooha day danan), which is clearly related to the travelling folks' name of Tuatha'an, though the why of that is a bit more confusing. But if the AS-fairy parallels are a big thing, then it does not look good for that future Aviendha saw. The story goes: There were different sorts of people who came to Ireland in groups: some were regular f
  9. Destroying a Waygate is incredibly difficult. I don't mind the issue of having the Shadow overcome guards or wardings or the removal of the Avendesora leaves, I just dislike the cheap way it was handled. We needed to see the Shadow struggle to overcome whatever protections were in place, not just be told 'oh yeah, we did that and they did this, and NOW THERE'S TROLLOCS EVERYWHERE'. It's more the violations of show don't tell than the way of it that I struggle with. But then I suppose, if they'd shown them trying to break out of the waygate or whatever, there wouldn't have been such a s
  10. I agree with Fish's train of thought; I'm actually quite...depressed at how negative this thread has gotten. I mean, I could write an essay about the numerous ways the last few books have irked me as a fan, and as a fiction nerd who just can't understand how some of the more major fumblings could have happened. But...it still saddens me to think that so many of us might buy this last book with a bad taste in our mouths, expecting to have to overlook a whole lot of flaws. It's certainly not what RJ would have wanted, and it's such a shame for such a great series and a book that so many have wai
  11. I was referring to the most recent reread; TGS was a while ago at this point. Also, defend BS's work all you want, but people are perfectly entitled to ciriticise his work and keep reading it. I'm a WoT fan and will remain so, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to criticise Sanderson. I mention it if I like something and I mention it if I don't like something. He's a professional writer, and I'm sure he's used to criticism being part of the gig.
  12. This is interesting. I was quite unhappy with some of the first chapter (not all of it, but I had some major qualms), but most other people seemed to think it was good. The view seems to have changed with this chapter; I wonder how much of that has to do with the audio format. That was definitely...slow. I found myself thinking, "Wow twenty minutes have passed; what's happened exactly?" Anyway, with the actual content, mistakes and all, I had the same problem I usually do with BS's WoT stuff, which is mainly the lack of effort. He quit his reread somewhere in TSR I think, and it really sho
  13. Huh I'd completely forgotten about that Kari thing. That is interesting. I see no reason why it couldn't be her - the fact that heroes of the horn and wolves' souls end up in TAR shows that souls can exist there. I'd say it's just that others' souls don't normally go there, rather than that they can't. It's not exactly clear what Rand does in the end either; he may have just set her free rather can killed her, judging by the strange phrase 'a blade of light, a blade of the Light'. Maybe it only hurt Shadowspawn; it doesn't really sound like balefire. Does it even hit Kari? Either that, or she
  14. Red hair isn't very common in places like Ireland or Scotland either; it's just pretty rare everywhere (though the archaeology nerd in me must point out that 'Celtic' is a broad term for related cultures and languages that existed in Western and Central Europe rather than an actual people). The fact that the Aiel have a rare trait in such abundance, as well as their height, points to them having a very geographically or socially isolated AoL heritage. RJ was aware of this too, since he never mentions the Tuatha'an having more red or fair hair than average or being very tall, presumably due to
  15. It seems like the general consensus is 'possible but unlikely', which is sort of the conclusion I came to about it. Honestly, I don't really expect it to play a part in AMoL or anything; the only real foreshadowing I can think of to do with it would be the times Lews Therin thought about how he'd 'let the world burn to hear her laugh again' or whatever. So I don't think it's very likely; it would just be a pretty cool twist.
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