Russian Devil Hotel - Game Thread (ON)

[aemonkristen]

I have just completed a reread and have very few solid suspects right now. O have tentatively moved some people down my suspect list for differing reasons. AJ has moved down because of trying to shift people from her lynch onto Song. I had at first thought AJ to be a symp and then she did that. Not typical scum/symp behavior. Lily was one of the first start voicing her suspicions of Song and in fact voted for her IIRC. This in no way changes Kivam's position on the suspect list. I tend to believe his claim of a one-shot power and that the mafia was not aware of those because of song's post about not believing the one shot abilities, but he's such a crafty little devil I'll always be keeping an eye on him. I'll post more later when I'm home and not in my phone.

[aemonkristen]

Didn't see your post before I in mine, Kiv. I hope they do it sooner rather than later just to clear the air so to speak. Then again they won't be able to speak on the subject until the locate more mafia. At least I hope they don't say anything until then.

[Kivam]

Didn't see your post before I in mine, Kiv. I hope they do it sooner rather than later just to clear the air so to speak. Then again they won't be able to speak on the subject until the locate more mafia. At least I hope they don't say anything until then.

 

No need for them to "clear the air", Aemon; absent a finder announcing that you're guilty you are highly unlikely to be voted for, even at endgame. Which is why it's so important that you be viewed at some point; if you aren't and you're scum, we'll lose.

[DPR]

A scream of pain rings out through the pale light of dawn.

 

The town rushes forth to see who has dies, and you find Hybrid, the vig, covered in purple welts oozing a thick, yellow liquid.

 

Song, or the creature that was Song, lay dead at his feet.

 

"Damn. I thought she was bluffing."

 

Froth emits from his lips after that last word, and his knees slowly buckle. It's over by the time he lay still upon the ground.

 

SONG, A MAFIA CREATURE, IS DEAD.

 

HYBRID, A VIG, IS DEAD.

 

THERE IS ONLY ONE PLAYER LEFT WHO HAS NOT USED A NIGHT ACTION.

 

IT IS NOW DAY 3.

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[DPR]

Song's body convulses and a tentacle lashes out and wraps around Lily's calf. Thorn-like teeth pierce her flesh, and she gives an identical pain-filled scream as Hybrid did only moments ago. Her eyes are wide in fear and pain as the dead tentacle slips from it's last kill...

 

LILY, TOWN, HAS BEEN NIGHTKILLED.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[hotpocket2006]

Hybrid you sly dog, I didn't know you were into tentacles *blows kisses to the town* Go mafia.

[Myndrunner]

Once you've had tentacle, you'll never go back my dear *blows a kiss* I do so hope someone takes my offer tonight. I've been a little lonely. *pats bed with one of her tentacles*

 

I'm going with Giggity on this one. Yep.

 

 

Actually.....I apologize Redust. I see the bigger picture now. You are doing well in scum hunting and I mistook your pushing me for my reveal as trying to out everyones one shot power. I have a better grasp on the situation from beyond the grave and I think we can win this now.

 

Vig kill Kivam or Verbal. Either one will be a mafia death. That is all.

 

Dammit Mynd, this is why the mafia loves you. You do NOT know my alignment. With all these 1-shot powers, why just vig kill somebody instead of letting people view each other? If you false claim a 1-shot viewing, and we lynch a townie, then we turn on the LLL and get a 1-for-1 trade. The town wins that game everytime without a doubt.

 

So stop doing the mafia's work for them. Use real casing. Either way, for the love of the Light, don't make sweeping statements that you can't support. Is Kivam mafia? I didn't view him last night. I, however, do think he is town because his finding results were the same wording as mine, and I know I'm a townie with a 1-shot finding ability (that I've used). Could he still be mafia? Possibly. But will you get a mafia death by killing either him or myself? I can't speak for him, but it's a resounding "Hell no" for me.

 

Wow, this reads completely like a defense of Kivam. There are things I cannot say, but I think a certain ghost forgot that she and I are still not on the same team even if we can chat in the netherworld. Besides, Verbal, how many games have you played with me before? You're always reading my text and not my intention, which goes for a lot of people. Either way, I can buy your defense of yourself, but your defending Kivam quite hard here over something weaker than the reasons I was lynched.

 

Gang, I have a ghostly inclination that Verbal is mafia. He withheld his "opinions" on other players simply because he wanted the lynch on me to succeed, which turned out to be a townie lynch. He is either playing an emotional game, or more importantly (colored with my ghostly understanding), he is mafia and on a team with Kivam and hoping for an epic victory.....but is about to get an epic fail.

 

The Vig can choose whoever, but don't waste the kill on Songs tonight. Lynch Songs in the morning and it will be a lot easier. Also, I urge everyone to try not to be so emotionally invested in their opinions and look at the cold hard facts. Songs is definitely mafia.

[Myndrunner]

GOhran Gose!

 

Why doesn't DM have the "HEY, new replies have been posted since your stupid arse was taking your time posting?"

 

So yes....THE VIG KILL ON SONGS WAS WASTED!!! WAY TO GO!!!! *kicks rocks*

 

So, with out further adieu....

 

KIVAM

[aemonkristen]

How is it that you are still alive, Mynd? All night you were hinting at a sibling role with Song and both of you dying when she got taken out, yet here you are. It makes it a bit harder to believe in the Ghost Connection when your previous statement did not come true.

[Myndrunner]

Just a quick clarification, I am allowed to say that Songs and I could speak offline about the game as both ghosts; however, I cannot quote PMs. We were chatting about the game and she let it slip about Kivam and Verbal. She must not have remembered that I am still innocent and win with the town.

 

I'm fine with either lynch. Kivam or Verbal.

[Myndrunner]

How is it that you are still alive, Mynd? All night you were hinting at a sibling role with Song and both of you dying when she got taken out, yet here you are. It makes it a bit harder to believe in the Ghost Connection when your previous statement did not come true.

 

No sibling role at all. Her tentacle would attach itself to anyone (like Lily) and she was threatening anyone. I said that I would happily go down if it meant her death. Please reread her statements. It was her not me. We did share an offline communication as ghosts, but no other connection that i was made aware of. It was in this communication that she let it slip about Kivam and Verbal.

[Verbal32]

Wow, this reads completely like a defense of Kivam. There are things I cannot say, but I think a certain ghost forgot that she and I are still not on the same team even if we can chat in the netherworld. Besides, Verbal, how many games have you played with me before? You're always reading my text and not my intention, which goes for a lot of people. Either way, I can buy your defense of yourself, but your defending Kivam quite hard here over something weaker than the reasons I was lynched.

 

Gang, I have a ghostly inclination that Verbal is mafia. He withheld his "opinions" on other players simply because he wanted the lynch on me to succeed, which turned out to be a townie lynch. He is either playing an emotional game, or more importantly (colored with my ghostly understanding), he is mafia and on a team with Kivam and hoping for an epic victory.....but is about to get an epic fail.

 

My Lord, Mynd, you're being played like a violin. If you are on a QT with a baddie, you think they "slipped" with something? I'm extremely shocked that you are falling for something like this.

 

And, btw, you are contradicting yourself. You say you can buy my defense, but have an inclination that I'm mafia? Umm....but if you buy my defense, doesn't that make you think I'm town? Am I missing something?

 

Either way, you're either town and doing the mafia's job for them (I know this from playing the aforementioned many games with you), or you've been turned mafia somehow and are targetting Kivam and myself. Again, I have no clue about Kiv, with the exception that I trust his 1-shot claim. Makes me think town, but who the hell knows. Not sure how that qualifies as a "hard" defense of Kivam.....I was thinking it was pretty lame, actually. You need to get a new prescription on those mafia hunting glasses, my friend. ;-)

[Toy and Minion]

Song was telling the truth about a bite. Shi...

[Verbal32]

Hey Mynd, were you able to chat with any other "ghosts"? Because my viewing night 1 was of a ghost.

[Sir Redust]

Quick check in during lunch.

 

If we want to confirm this information about Kivam and Verbal 100%, we should lynch one of them. One of their deaths would clear or condemn the second.

[Myndrunner]

Hey Mynd, were you able to chat with any other "ghosts"? Because my viewing night 1 was of a ghost.

 

Nope, just the one. I have not been notified of being able to chat with anyone else at this time. I'll keep everyone informed if I do.

 

It was the way Songs made her statement that led me to conclude that Verbal and Kivam are both mafia on her team. I was well aware of her alignment not changing; however, I'm pretty sure at the time she made her statement that she assumed I would win with her. Verbal has played many games with me and he knows my playstyle, so I am surprised at his reactions to my posts. I would understand if he were town trying to defend himself, but he went from hot to cold on Kivam so quickly. He's now distancing himself from Kivam now that I have cast my vote on Kiv. It is because he knows Kivam will flip mafia and that he would be guilty by association.

 

If you don't buy anything I say, dismiss it. It seems Verbal is the one protesting way too much.

[Myndrunner]

If we want to confirm this information about Kivam and Verbal 100%, we should lynch one of them. One of their deaths would clear or condemn the second.

 

Verbal is now trying to distance himself from Kivam, but don't forget that he was a lot more sure of his alignment prior to my vote. I would concur with the statement above. Either one, but my vote stays on Kivam for the time being.

[Verbal32]

*shakes head*

 

You are inventing things that aren't there. My stance on Kivam has not changed at all. Re-read my posts. I say the same things regarding him over and over.

 

And you are missing my point when I "protested" to you. If you get me lynched, fine. I'm 1 townie out of a majority still. But if you keep pulling this junk all game long, you'll annihilate the entire town while the mafia laughs its collective arses off. Please try to understand what I mean here.

 

EXAMPLE:

 

Song feeds townie Mynd false information. Mynd falls head over heels into it and takes the bait. He then leads lynches on other townies (like me). The mafia get to laugh as they won't be targeted for lynches until Mynd is done. Then Mynd says "Well, you did seem suspicious." That is how you can do the mafia's work for them. Don't be lead by false information. You should always doubt information given to you by mafia. ALWAYS. You were the mod of the Heroes game that Kivam just did that in - how can you not see the lesson there? I'm shocked.

[Hybrid]

Worth it.

 

 

Good luck, town.

[LilyElizabeth]

And I was enjoying this game, too!

 

Good luck, town!

[Kivam]

A scream of pain rings out through the pale light of dawn.

 

The town rushes forth to see who has dies, and you find Hybrid, the vig, covered in purple welts oozing a thick, yellow liquid.

 

Song, or the creature that was Song, lay dead at his feet.

 

"Damn. I thought she was bluffing."

 

Froth emits from his lips after that last word, and his knees slowly buckle. It's over by the time he lay still upon the ground.

 

SONG, A MAFIA CREATURE, IS DEAD.

 

HYBRID, A VIG, IS DEAD.

 

THERE IS ONLY ONE PLAYER LEFT WHO HAS NOT USED A NIGHT ACTION.

 

IT IS NOW DAY 3.

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Hybrid was the player I viewed with my 1-time action, who came back with "Hybrid is a ghost" (would have been nice to have him as a confirmed townie, as he was doing a lot of analyzing and listing).

[aemonkristen]

I believe that you did have communication with Song, but I have not yet come to a conclusion on that relationship. Did you get duped as townie, was it really a slip from Song, are you now a mafia and trying to setup Kiv to fall as an innocent and thereby clear Verbal from further harassment? I'm going to need some time to think about this and check out a few things. I have he same dilema with Redust though I tend to lean toward town at the moment. I'll come back later with the why. It was something I came across in my reread but didn't actually write down or quote.

[Kivam]

Just a quick clarification, I am allowed to say that Songs and I could speak offline about the game as both ghosts; however, I cannot quote PMs. We were chatting about the game and she let it slip about Kivam and Verbal. She must not have remembered that I am still innocent and win with the town.

 

I'm fine with either lynch. Kivam or Verbal.

 

Since I know I'm town, there are a few possibilities here:

 

1) Song has successfully played Mynd (having been scum with her in the heroes game . . . I can see her doing that - she's good enough): all 3 of us are innocent, and Mynd's about to lead a lynch on one townie and get lynched himself when he's wrong;

 

2) Song put a townie and a teammate together in her "slip" to Mynd - that would mean Verbal is scum; or

 

3) Mynd is lying, and converted to scum on death

 

Not sure what the best play here is. It might be to lynch me; I can tell you I'm roleless for now (when I asked DPR if I had a ghost role, he said "not at the moment"; I'm guessing the "action has been triggered" posts might, under certain circumstances, end up with me given a role, but I wasn't designated as having a ghost role at the start), so it's not much of a loss (especially after nailing scum on Day 2). Selfishly, I'd prefer Verbal be the test subject, if we go that route, since I'm mildly suspicious of Verbal anyway.

 

But I'm actually more inclined to vote Redust as a test subject. He defended Verbal earlier, which is what has me most suspicious of Verb, and hasn't really contributed much to the game.

[Kivam]

*shakes head*

 

You are inventing things that aren't there. My stance on Kivam has not changed at all. Re-read my posts. I say the same things regarding him over and over.

 

And you are missing my point when I "protested" to you. If you get me lynched, fine. I'm 1 townie out of a majority still. But if you keep pulling this junk all game long, you'll annihilate the entire town while the mafia laughs its collective arses off. Please try to understand what I mean here.

 

EXAMPLE:

 

Song feeds townie Mynd false information. Mynd falls head over heels into it and takes the bait. He then leads lynches on other townies (like me). The mafia get to laugh as they won't be targeted for lynches until Mynd is done. Then Mynd says "Well, you did seem suspicious." That is how you can do the mafia's work for them. Don't be lead by false information. You should always doubt information given to you by mafia. ALWAYS. You were the mod of the Heroes game that Kivam just did that in - how can you not see the lesson there? I'm shocked.

 

Not to mention that if you really are a townie, then once Mynd is done leading lynches on you and me, he'll be the next lynch target, giving the mafia 3 free days.

 

Seriously - playing based on information provided by a mafia member is always dangerous. Playing based on information provided by a mafia member that has been outed is downright suicidal. The only goal at that point is to help make your teammates victory more likely. That means playing WIFOM games, and since the outed scum is in charge of how much truth, if any, they reveal, most of the time that ends up benefiting the mafia much more than the town.

 

BTW, Verb - do you remember Nae's Princess Bride game? Where Mynd was "confirmed as a townie" to start the game? He's playing this game almost the same way he played that one (for those who didn't play it, Mynd was actually a Jester whose job was to get himself lynched).

[Verbal32]

Ok, that's now 3 things that have creeped me out about you, Kiv.

 

#1 - I also viewed Hybrid on night 1.....and received the ghost response. That's why I jumped at you saying that and believed you potentially town (because the same happened to me).

 

#2 - I was also told by Wes (after asking him) that I do "not at the moment" have a ghost role and was thinking that I'd be the better test subject but selfishly would rather lynch you.

 

#3 - I was thinking I've seen this behavior from Mynd before (and I don't mean the doing the mafia's job part...he's done that before too) in trying to cause chaos. And you read my mynd. Eww.

 

 

So, that's what I've got. Looks like both Kivam and myself are the same type of test subject....however, I'll admit that he's the better at picking up on little clues as a townie, so I'd rather test me than him. I don't want to die, but if it clears up the Mynd mess, and maybe nets us a baddie in Mynd if he's a LLL, then I'm cool with that. Either way, testing you doesn't clear me, and vice versa. It only clears Mynd being a LLL or a dupe of Song's.