Shadow over Fiddlesmouth Game Thread [GAME OVER, TOWN WINS]

[MsDanya]

Aah, ok, I was a bit confused there for a moment. I didnt say I didnt believe your information about Verbal, or about Pete, I just disagree with some of your conclusions. And no, I dont need used relics.

 

Of course, me having one less vote is a disadvantage for me, but I dont think it really is a huge threat. as long as it stays on me at least, unless of course we're one vote from a lynch, and its suddenly moved. That might not be so very good. (so yeha, agree on your first point there).

 

(Idont get the L-1, L-2 stuff  :-\)

[Verbal32]

L-1 means one vote short of a lynch.

 

I'm hesitant to reveal my XXXXX's as those players I tracked are still alive, and my result for them was that they did nothing.

 

Aemon, the fact that both my trackings of Alys happened before other mods came aboard HELPS my story, not hinders it.  That means consistency is on my side.  No results is different from did nothing.

 

Btw people, I was ONE vote on Alys.  I did not go all out on her; rather, I placed a vote based on info that I had available and made an educated guess based on my additional role info.  A few other peeps also voted, and I wonder why they aren't taking the flack I am now...  :-\

 

Either way - Lavinya, if you want me to reveal my other tracks, let me know.  I'll do it, but only if you request it, as it might be useful for you to compare to your viewings.  I'll be the one to post it, and you can internally check it out.  Lemme know.

[Pookie]

Kivam said L cannot say pruh about how wkh relic that wrog me the yhvvho'v name works ru what else lw has done, rqob that it glg give Anox's qdph.  I was dfwxdoob surprised to eh given that pxfk leeway considering zkdw the rules vdb about relics.  L have no uhdvrq to question wkh accuracy of wkh results.  It zdv not presented wr me as d percent chance exw as fact.  Dqg Kivam did vdb the vessel pljkw be mafia vlqfh it was fkrvhq before roles zhuh assigned.

 

If L was faking d PR, it zrxog NOT be dq every third zrug is three ohwwhuv to the uljkw PR.  It lv ANNOYING and lw changes my sodb style dramatically vlqfh I usually gr share my wkrxjkwv with a zdoo of text.  L feel crippled ehfdxvh even simple srvwv take tons ri extra time wr double check.  L'p waltz counting khuh... one two wkuhh one two wkuhh...

 

song:

you nqrz I can't vohhs, I can't vwrs my brain

brx know it's wkuhh weeks, I'm jrlqj insane

you nqrz I'd give brx everything I've jrw

for a olwwoh peace of plqg.

 

ETA: Verbal, L do want wr know if rqh of your wudgnv was me.  Lw would answer wkh question of krz you see dfwlrqv of relics.

[Naeann]

So here's how I think the vote count should be if there were no voting irregularities:

 

Verbal(2) - Lavinya, Danya

 

So what I see we have in the actual count is:

 

* an extra vote from Danya that she thinks is due to a relic

* Lavinya's vote doesn't count

* either an invisible vote on Verbal OR Nae is writing Danya's 2 votes using 1 name rather than writing Danya twice

 

Are you able to confirm that last one Nae?

 

If Danya had voted for Verbal twice it would have been written twice.  She has her two votes on the boards.  (forgive me If that was tmi Kivam and DPR)

[Verbal32]

Alright, I've screwed the pooch in this game to the point that I might as well buy it dinner, too.

 

Night 2 my track was Hybrid, who did nothing.

Night 6 my track was Tigs, who did nothing....and is now dead.

 

Here's my rundown and my vote, by who's left.

 

Jeran:  being very helpful and sort of defending some of what I say - townie behavior right now.

 

Aemon:  looking for the easy lynch - scum behavior.

 

Danya:  double voter, acted town all game.

 

Hybrid:  *meta alert*  less active when scum...but he did nothing the night I tracked....either role is on odd # days, or he's town.

 

Verbal:  lynch the scumbag, but not for being scum.  I'm town, but I just suck this game.

 

Lavinya:  likely the Finder....didn't 100% trust her before, but I do now.

 

Pookie:  those PRs make it hard to get a read....by design?

 

 

I'm stuck between Pookie and Aemon right now.  My choice is [glow=red,2,300]Aemon[/glow].

[Lavinya]

You know what, I think it's time we knew who the innocents were. I don't need you guys to reveal your roles, though, but at least there will be no voting for you. Unless the scum vote for you. Makes it easy for us to see them that way ;)

 

Both Hybrid and Aemon are innocent. As am I.

 

So, that leaves us with Danya, Pookie, Jeran, and Verbal. Therein lies your scum!

 

I'm not entirely sure Jeran how your information actually verified Verbal. I don't like the feeling I get that you are trying to save him from certain deserved lynching.

 

Also - those relics you're talking about are not the ones I and I believe Alys were talking about. I pilfered the dead and received some information that Alys alluded to having. Again, another set of three required to be combined.

 

One last thing - I will still be playing, but I'm going overseas to Hong Kong for a week, as of tonight (about 10 hours from now). I will have internet at the hotel and on my phone (it's a working trip) so will be following, but I apologise if I am too quiet. I will do my best to stay active!

[Hybrid]

Thanks for the info, Lavinya.

 

- Between her role and the mischief that's targetting her, I'm reasonably convinced Danya is innocent.  It's hard for me to get a read on her, though.

- Pookie's PR could be faked, but I've not gotten a scum vibe from her (of course, the PR does make that rather difficult).

- I was fairly certain of Jeran's innocence until today.  Now I'm not so sure.  He could be telling the truth.  Or he could be trying to deflect our attention by making us worry about the solo winner.

- And that leaves Verbal.  His role reveal details have been strangely ... off.  It's hard to really pinpoint it, but it just doesn't feel right to me.  Plus, all this fatalism doesn't feel right either.  Verbal's a solid player, and his supposed misplays as the tracker, while damaging, are hardly a screwup warranting this self-humiliation.  Feels like a sympathy play to me.

 

In summary, Verbal's my number one choice for a lynch today.  He's probably the most suspicious to me at this point, and if he's scum, I'd be in favor of going after Jeran next for his behavior today (assuming the game's not over).  With all the voting mischief going on, I'd rather not vote until everyone else weighs in, but that's where I'm leaning right now.

 

---

 

Also,

 

Night 2 my track was Hybrid, who did nothing.

Night 6 my track was Tigs, who did nothing....and is now dead.

That's an interesting choice of wording, given your last post.

[Lavinya]

It is convenient, given Tigs can't verify his information ;)

[Hybrid]

True, but it's not quite what I was getting at.  I guess I was trying to be too coy.

 

I was just trying to point out that Verbal said this initially:

I'm hesitant to reveal my XXXXX's as those players I tracked are still alive, and my result for them was that they did nothing.

 

But then he said that he tracked Tigs and myself:

Night 2 my track was Hybrid, who did nothing.

Night 6 my track was Tigs, who did nothing....and is now dead.

 

And both of these posts occurred well after Day 9 had started, and within a couple of posts of each other.  Verbal posts, Pookie posts, Nae posts the vote count, and then Verbal posts again.

 

Maybe a minor miswording, or maybe someone forgot to write down the details of his fake claim.  ;D

[aemonkristen]

I hadn't even noticed that, Hybrid. [glow=red,2,300]Verbal[/glow], and later to Jeran if we need to.

[Jeran]

Please note I have NOT verified Verbal and have been careful to say that twice.  I feel I verified one "fact" of his claim.  Whether the "fact" is due to luck or that he is also a Survivor or somehow had access to Pete's info or made a good guess based on Alys's post about what a member of the Great Race could do in the Cthulu mythos I don't know.  He are my posts again:

 

I have evidence that supports PART of Verbal's claim.  Please someone unvote him NOW (and for now).  I am not claiming he is innocent, only that he is telling the truth about part of his claimn.

 

Why is everyone rushing to vote when there is no deadline?  We should be getting all information out now and then making the decision.

 

I'm getting ready for work now but I may be able to post again before I leave. 

Thank you for unvoting aemon.  To reiterate: I am not making any claims about Verbal's alignment merely that 1 part of his claim holds true.  There's a reason why I wanted an unvote which I will show you in my next post.  I had the information last night, but didn't post because I thought I would wait until I was more wide awake so I could think about what I wanted to say.  If I had posted it last night then there would have been no connection with Verbal.  It was this post of Verbal's that has truth (or extremely good luck) in it:

 

But I'll give you the info in case I die - Pete visited Danya on the night he died.

 

I'll post my info next because it's long (although I may edit it a bit to shorten it up)

 

Given the information I received from the group of 3 relics I believe that Pete visited Danya night 7and Verbal's claim says the same.  That is all.  You'll note that in my first quote I asked people to unvote Verbal "for now".  This was a chance to actually have a discussion about all the information gathered by various people rather than another rush lynch.  Now that the information is available and we've had discussion I'm happy for people to vote for whomever they wish.  Also, I've never said that I won't vote for Verbal.  Now that Lavinya has revealed her information I will soon be ready to vote, after I've had a bit of a think.

[Jeran]

Oh, and Pookie, I don't seriously believe you are guilty at this point, but it was worth discussing. 

 

I have seen a player fake an annoying PR before (Myndrunner on Myndjack as a mod-confirmed innocent Jester.  It worked; he was lynched.)

[Jeran]

Okay triple post, but in my defense it has been three hours since the last.  :D

 

I have a general question about the tracker role which I may then extend to this game depending on the answer I get.  I checked the wiki but it was lean on details.

 

If one is a tracker and you tracked someone who is in the mafia would you always get a reading that they visited the person who was NKed by virtue of them being in the mafia?  Or would you only be able to catch the person who submitted the night kill? 

[Naeann]

Are you being hypothetical or asking the mods or Verbal?

 

My answer is PAFO ;)

[Jeran]

I was asking players.  Although I'm not sure now that where I was going is relevant anyway.

[Verbal32]

It is convenient, given Tigs can't verify his information ;)

 

But Hybrid can.

 

 

Hybrid, I had forgotten Tigs was the last NK....that was a miswording on my part.

 

My apologies, but I still have this nagging feeling in the back of my head that something is off.  Not saying I don't believe you, Lav...you've proven yourself this whole game.  I just find it too convenient that you're still alive.  If the Healer has been protecting you, why hasn't the Healer been NKed yet?  Bad luck by the mafia?  Eh....not sure.  Sorry.

[Kivam]

Vote Count

Verbal (3) - Danya, Hidden, Aemon

Danya (1) - Danya

Aemon (1) - Verbal

 

4 to lynch

 

[Kivam]

Just checking in from the business center - still LoLA through Mon.

[aemonkristen]

Not voting: Hybrid, Pookie, Jeran, Lav

 

Lav doesn't have a vote

 

someone has made a vote, but we can't see who it is.

 

That leaves 2 people left to cast a vote, unless the hidden voter can still place their own vote. Jeran. Do you have any objection to lynching Verbal? Are there any questions you still want to discuss?

[Hybrid]

For reasons I've posted, [glow=red,2,300]Verbal[/glow].

[Lavinya]

This is a really sucky point in the game to not have my vote :P

[Kivam]

Final Vote Count

Verbal (4) - Danya, Hidden, Aemon, Hybrid

Danya (1) - Danya

Aemon (1) - Verbal

 

 

 

Verbal, an innocent, is dead

 

Night actions are due by Noon eastern on Tues.  Please PM me, Nae and DPR with all of them

[Jeran]

Danya or Pookie...therein lies your scum!

 

I was beginning to think I am just a sucker for a good story.

[aemonkristen]

Could Pookie have sailed through the game with an invented PR? I was thinking last night that losing your vote is self-inflicted. I don't know if any of the other things we have seen are self inflicted, but it made me think, why trigger it twice if you know what will happen. Something to think about while we wait for morning. has anyone triggered sometyhing that affected a another person, or is it always on the person who used it?

[MsDanya]

Aemon: are you referring to me voting for myself? I'm not sure if I get what you mean about losing a vote.

 

About Pookie, I don'd think you have to be an innocent to have a PR.