The Church

[Locke]

Ah, okay, you're right. My bad.

 

End of POD, it was Cyndane, end of discussion.

Um, seriously?

[Anoxanmore]

Yes seriously.

 

I was right with Verin being BA, I am not wrong.

[Locke]

That is one of the worst things I've ever heard.  WHY do you KNOW Cyndane kill Asmodean?  Verin being BA isn't a valid reason. ::)

[Eel-finn]

Although very impressive at guessing that, I had no clue until Verin lied at Egwene. I got uch a chill down my spine...

[Locke]

Verin had made some rather suspicious outright lies before that, but was also a rather good person, as in on the good side.

[Eel-finn]

Well I never really paid much attention to her, looking back I remember some suspicious lies, but still, she did a very noble thing.

[Anoxanmore]

She was on the good side, but I knew Moraine not to be BA, as with what the Amyrlin entrusted her and Siuan with when they were Accepted (New Spring Novel).

 

Verin could clearly lie and thus was BA even if she tried to be good. People always laughed at me when I said she was too (5 yrs ago).

 

I just have strong instinct it was Cyndane... if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But she has the opportunity, and Asmo recognized her. Plus she had to have been a DF prior to being infected with Lanfear's spirit.

[Eel-finn]

See, but that's the problem. Asmo recognized the assailant. If it was Cyndane, how would he have recognized her if he had only known about Lanfear, who, again, had only recently died.

[Locke]

That's dumb.  Your logic made perfect sense; I don't see why people should laugh at you for it.  I always just assumed she had found some way to lie other than BA, because I couldn't imagine her serving the DO.  

 

I just have strong instinct it was Cyndane... if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But she has the opportunity, and Asmo recognized her. Plus she had to have been a DF prior to being infected with Lanfear's spirit.

Okay, that I can accept.  Thank you.

 

But wouldn't Asmo not have recognized Cyndane?

 

Edit:  Oh, right, what she said. :D

[Eel-finn]

Well anyone who laughed at you is kicking themselves now, so you get the last laugh.

[Anoxanmore]

She is a DF, apparently of high enough standing to get impregnated with Lanfear's spirit. Hence the surprise of finding her there.

 

 

I still think the DO sent her to do it.

[Eel-finn]

I didn't know Cyndane was a darkfriend before the DO gave the body to Lanfear. Where does it say that? (Not that I don't believe you, it's just been 5 years since I read the book)

[Anoxanmore]

It doesn't say it specifically, I'm inferring. :)

[Eel-finn]

Ahh, well it is possible. But Cyndane's strength in the One Power is less than Lanfear's use to be. What if Asmodean ended up being stronger than her?

[Anoxanmore]

It has to do with she was ripped from the Finn's trapment, or she was healed using saidar.

 

I'd also to like to point out that Asmo is silly weak in the One Power.

[Eel-finn]

Oh yeah. Then I guess that explains why he was desperately seeking the Choeden Kal

[Anoxanmore]

I should clarify, Amso is super weak  of the Forsaken in Power.  Only Moggy and Messana are weaker.

[Rinkai]

Did the shield on Asmo dissipate when Lanfear died? Because that could be a problem. And If pre-Lanfear Cyndane was strong enough in the power to kill Asmo, wouldn't she have to be of the white tower (no wilder could be that skilled). Then wouldn't her strength be known to all Aes-sedai? We hear of no such Aes sedai. Moraine, Suian were the strongest before the wonder girls.

[Eel-finn]

See the fact that moggy is actually, comparatively, weak is scary. Because Nyneave is one of the strongest female channelers of the age and even she only rates a very low Forsaken.

[ed2funy]

Yo!!!!!

go to D&D for this!

>:(

 

 

Eel, the little prong broke off of the wire, not somewhere in the middle of the cord.

[Eel-finn]

Damn... it's all but hopeless now...

[Anoxanmore]

Nynaeve is as strong as Rhavin, he isn't exactly weak.

 

Moggy comments on this during her battle with Nyn.

 

Cadusane is stronger than Moraine and Suian probably combined. Nyn is stronger than Semirhage or at least equal to her.  Graendal and Lanfear were the only ones significantly stronger than Nynaeve of the women.

 

Forsaken list goes like this in power.

Ishamael

Lanfear

Aginor 

Demandred

Sammael

Graendal

Rahvin

Semirhage

Balthamel

Be'lal

Asmodean

Moghedien

Mesaana

 

The gap between Sammael and Graendal is pretty large.

[Eel-finn]

Sweet, never had a list in terms of strength. Thanks.

[Anoxanmore]

I should clarify a little bit as well.

 

My placement of Lanfear while being exactly as it says in the book she is, some people have issues with.

 

They say no woman can be that strong when RJ said women have 4 less levels than men in volume of power.

 

Yet we consistently see that she does and is.

 

So... other than that, the rest are accurate as far as I can determine. Nyn is the same as Rhavin so that puts her at pretty damn strong on the Forsaken level. :) (50%)

[ed2funy]

*slaps Anox*

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