WOT: Seanchan Succession Mafia - Game Over - Town Wins!

[Tynaal Consen]

Cuba i did not reveal because as i said before.. I possibly only have one shot left and so if the mafia wants to nk me. I can protect myself or someone else and hope for the best.

[Alanna]

Cuba, I'm afraid I don't understand your logic at all. Why is a healer revealing not as bad as a finder revealing? And what does that mean anyway, 'not as bad?' I just ask because you seem to base your suspicions on it, and I just don't get it.

 

And gah. Just gah. I don't know what to think anymore. I guess I'm still leaning towards voting for Talmanes. Although, if Tynaal is lying, isn't is possible that there could be a real healer who is not revealing? I mean, if you're a healer, you really, really don't want to reveal, especially if there is a revealed finder already. I've never been healer before, but in this situation, I don't know. I think I'd definitely be weighing getting a mafia vs. not getting killed and still being able to protect someone.

 

I don't know. I really don't trust anyone right now. I was starting to feel pretty sure about Wombat and Pete, but now I don't know. Not because you guys have done anything scummy, but just because I'm getting to that point in the game where I start questioning everything I thought before. Which is good, I guess. It just stresses me out a little :D

 

Ugh, I don't even want to think about the possibility of a cult right now. But it would be stupid not to, I guess.

[ed2funy]

Jeez....make things more complicated! :P

 

Tynaal, you are kind of confusing. If you aren't lying...

I just got it. nvm. :D

That is a head slapper. :P

 

Ok.....

 

What is the vote count?

This is Jeran's post:

Vote Update

[glow=green,2,300]

Talmanes (6) - Pete, Wombat, Alanna, Tynaal, Tigraine, Pete

Tynaal (3) - Ed, Talmanes, Ellianora

Pete (2) - crafty, Rose

[/glow]

7 is a lynch...deadline Wednesday 10:00 PM EST

o.0

Does Pete have two votes? I don't think so, so I am going to take one out for now. I can't believe no one noticed that before.

 

 

[glow=green,2,300]

Talmanes (4) - Pete, Wombat, Tynaal, Tigraine,

Tynaal (5) - Ed, Talmanes, Ellianora, Rose, Cuba

Pete (1) - crafty

[/glow]

[Alanna]

I actually did notice it, but I was going to wait to see if Jeran wrote it that way again. It's probably just a mistake, though.

[ed2funy]

Well thanks.

:P

 

I didn't even see it. *feels stupid*

I just saw the numbers on the side.

 

*waits for Jeran to repost it*

If he puts it back to the way it was.....Pete has a double vote and a power doubler?!

o.0

[Pookie]

The Pete vote #2 was a typo for Pookie, who just realized that she got her games mixed up and this one didn't have an end of day on Tuesday.  :P  Leaving the vote where it is for now just in case I get stupid and forget to check back here tomorrow.

[ed2funy]

So, who did you have your vote on?

 

lol..I saw.

 

Talmanes (5) - Pete, Wombat, Tynaal, Tigraine, Pookie

Tynaal (5) - Ed, Talmanes, Ellianora, Rose, Cuba

Pete (1) - crafty

 

That makes so much more sense. :D

[Tynaal Consen]

Okay talmanes you reckon you're a finder. Alanna shared her findings in order to advance the town's chances of catching scum. Why haven't you shared? 

[Jeran]

I did make a typo with the vote count which has been fixed.  I put Pete instead of Pookie. (Is very annoyed at self.  I was determined not to make errors with vote counts and then I type the wrong name  ::))

 

Vote Update

[glow=green,2,300]

Talmanes (5) - Wombat, Tynaal, Tigraine, Pookie, Pete

Tynaal (5) - Ed, Talmanes, Ellianora, Rose, CUBA

Pete (1) - crafty

[/glow]

NV: Alanna

 

7 to lynch...deadline Wednesday 10:00 PM EST (~14.5 hours)

[craftyreader]

I do not believe Tynaal is scum, and I am still leaning towards Pete rather than Talmanes as mafia.  So my vote stays the same.

[Alanna]

I get what you're saying, Sarah (your name is Sarah, right? :D), but at this point, we may need your vote elsewhere to reach a majority. It doesn't really look like anyone is going to go for Pete right now. It'll probably be Talmanes or Tynaal.

[craftyreader]

Much as I don't like it, you have a valid point Alanna.  I have class tonight from 6 - 9pm my time and I will be off and on for the rest of the day since its one of the few days we both have off.

 

I don't think it is a good choice, but rather the lesser of two bad ones. 

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

Vote [glow=red,2,300]Talmanes[/glow]

 

I still don't think he is mafia though.  And yes, my name is Sarah.

[CUBAREY]

I don't think it is a good choice, but rather the lesser of two bad ones.

 

unvote

 

Vote Talmanes

 

I still don't think he is mafia though.  And yes, my name is Sarah.

 

Excuse ME? But you believe that Pete is scum and do not really think Talmenes is scum but you switch your vote? What kind of logic is that? lynching someone you believe to be a townie is better then not lynching anyone at all, is that your logic. Whatever the result of today's vote Crafty just made herself a prime suspect for being scum.

[CUBAREY]

Cuba, I'm afraid I don't understand your logic at all. Why is a healer revealing not as bad as a finder revealing?

 

A Finder is an offensive role as he/she  can dig out scum, a healer is defensive as it can only protect someone he/she believes will be nk. Further a Finder is defensely in and of himself if known he must depend on the healer for protection. The healer can always protect herself if she actually believes she will be the target that night. The Mafia will have a hard time deciding who to go after when two Finders have revealed and a healer as the healer can protect anyone of them. Sure its better that the Healer not reveal normally but of the reveals hers is the least crippling for the Town.

[Alanna]

But Cuba, it is better to get a lynch than to get no lynch at all. It is DEFINITELY better. And Sarah didn't say she that she thinks Talmanes is a townie. She was just more suspicious of Pete than she was of Talmanes. The fact is, whatever her suspicions, she doesn't know if Talmanes is a townie or not, so it's much better to get the lynch than no lynch at all. No lynch at all is very, very bad, especially so late in the game.

 

As for the healer/finder revealing, I understand now, what you're saying makes sense. My confusion was mostly at you thinking that us revealing was scummy in some way. I don't know if Talmanes is telling the truth, but the both of us revealed at the last possible minute. We didn't really have a choice (unless Talmanes is lying, in case his was definitely a choice).

[Talmanes]

Just like Alanna said I waited until I had no other choice. I was planning on getting concrete evidence before I revealed, as I'm sure she was, but with both of us, it was reveal, or get lynched.

[Talmanes]

And I haven't shared much, because I haven't gotten much yet. Someone got lucky and blocked me the first night, and the second night I sent in Elli and Tigs and got a negative result, meaning they are innocent. I mentioned Elli earlier, but couldn't remember who the other was until after I checked.

[Pookie]

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

You saying you were blocked made me believe you (and Alanna) more.  Before someone assumes something, no I can't roleblock.

[Jeran]

~6.5 hours to go. I won't do a vote update until I get home because it is a pain to do it on my phone.

[Alanna]

Well, I'm going to go with [glow=red,2,300]Talmanes[/glow], I guess. I'm willing to change vote if the majority swings another way. We really have to lynch someone today, guys. Even if you're not 100% suspicious about someone, we need to be together on this.

[Jeran]

Vote Update

[glow=green,2,300]

Talmanes (6) - Wombat, Tynaal, Tigraine, Pete, crafty, Alanna

Tynaal (5) - Ed, Talmanes, Ellianora, Rose, CUBA

[/glow]

NV: Pookie

 

7 to lynch...deadline 10:00 PM EST (~4.5 hours)

[Pookie]

[glow=red,2,300]Tynaal[/glow]

I don't like to vote for someone who may be the healer, but IF we have 2 finders, as revealed, if mafia NK's one of them we'll still potentially have the other's results.

[ed2funy]

OMG....

It is 6 to 6 and I am so confused right now on who to vote for.

Both of them have reveals, so one must be lying, no?

Agh!

 

Unless one of them flips mafia, then the only other person we have to look at is Pete, but I think most people believe him.

[craftyreader]

And if we lynch the healer, we have none.  Are you actually saying that no healer at all is the better course?

[Jeran]

Vote Update

 

[glow=green,2,300]Talmanes (6) - Wombat, Tynaal, Tigraine, Pete, crafty, Alanna

Tynaal (6) - Ed, Talmanes, Ellianora, Rose, CUBA, Pookie[/glow]

 

NV: None

7 to lynch...deadline 10:00 PM EST (~4 hours)