[Standard Mafia] 90s Music Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

That is two and counting your vote on Rey makes three.

 

You flopped around, and I never called you on the mindless townie thing. You claim to have voted Talya and stuck with it to get information, but then you unvote and vote pandy.

 

Jumping on a bandwagon is normal, it is the position in which is key. I usually vote for the third on a bandwagon, and you were third. It is as simple as that. Your reaction to my vote on you, has lead me to believe you are mafia.

[CJSG92]

okay, i flopped around cause it was the first day and i didn't have any real reason to vote for anyone til Pandy started trying to make me look scummy. 

i never claimed that i stuck with a vote on Talya for info or anything, i just said that was my initial reason for voting.  for the sake of a lynch.  when Pandy started looking scummy, i switched to him.  isn't that what we're SUPPOSED to do?  ???

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Again you contradict yourself.

 

and one was simply for the sake of a lynch on day 1.  everyone talks about how we "need a lynch", and people tend to just bandwagon whoever has the most votes so that we can have a lynch.  but by jumping on the bandwagon on her, now I'm scummy...?

 

So you didn't join the bandwagon to get information? You must of already had it, meaning you are mafia, and know who is mafia and who is innocent.

[LedZepMan]

be prepared to be confused if you get into it with Pete.....i don't even try.

 

Sorry, last post, honestly.

 

*dies yet again*

[Talya]

Nice little banter you two have going there.

 

Maybe you both are scum, lol

[cosmicpanda]

I have major issues with DS' play. We should lynch him.

 

I never said everyone lynch you. I just gave my reason for voting you. If people want to bandwagon it is them, but I am voting on sound reason.

 

False. You never gave a reason until later. Here's your vote for him:

 

[glow=red,2,300]CJ[/glow] mindless bandwagoning anyone?

 

And I had a feeling I was going to be nk, oh well I live to play another day.

 

Why did you say the line that I've bolded?

 

 

indeed. [glow=red,2,300]DS[/glow] - mindless bandwagons are a bad idea.

 

It isn't a bandwagon if you are the first vote.  ;)

 

But you called for a mindless bandwagon.

 

 

And any reason for a vote is an invitation for another, just like your reason and vote on me. Someone can say yeah thats scummy and jump on the bandwagon mindlessly. So you therefore are an enigma good sir.

 

...eh?

 

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Nice little banter you two have going there.

 

Maybe you both are scum, lol

 

Talya! You are a worthy player. Who do you think we should lynch?

[Talya]

Honestly! My gut feeling says Dragon. I have to admit I didn't like the 'And I had a feeling I was going to be nk, oh well I live to play another day.' bit wither. Why on earth would he think that. If anything I was expecting one of the quiet ones to go, as per what usually happens, but it was Led this time.

 

I don't assume I'm going to nk unless I have given something away of my role (if I had one) or it was getting close to the end and there was a higher risk of me being nk'd. But on day 1...just doesn't ring true.

 

CJ looks like he is struggling on his second game a bit and Dragon is attacking him, almost loks like he thinks CJ will be an easy lynch target and pounces on every word.

 

But thats just me, no one else seems to have said too much except you Pandy and I  know you are a good player. ;)

[Reyoru]

The banter between DS and CJ is sooo pointless, makes me suspicious of both.

 

In my mind, Talya voted for LZM on the first day, and then he died... now does that make her more or less suspicious? Maybe its just a coincidence?

[Talya]

Or someone trying to make me more suspicious, who knows.

[CJSG92]

Again you contradict yourself.

 

and one was simply for the sake of a lynch on day 1.  everyone talks about how we "need a lynch", and people tend to just bandwagon whoever has the most votes so that we can have a lynch.  but by jumping on the bandwagon on her, now I'm scummy...?

 

So you didn't join the bandwagon to get information? You must of already had it, meaning you are mafia, and know who is mafia and who is innocent.

 

okay everyone, this is my LAST post to argue with DS.  i know, it's making me look scummy, and since i think he's mafia, i'm sure i'll never convince him.  so i'll just stop and let everyone else see for themselves how obnoxious he's being. 

 

YES.  i joined the bandwagon for the same reason everyone joins a bandwagon (usually), so we can have a lynch on day one.  When Pandy started acting scummy(IMO), i changed to him.  that's not contradicting myself.  that's changing my mind to go for someone who i'm suspicious of. 

i would advise you to stop trying to twist every little thing i say, cause it's making you look a LOT scummier than me. 

[cosmicpanda]

The banter between DS and CJ is sooo pointless, makes me suspicious of both.

 

In my mind, Talya voted for LZM on the first day, and then he died... now does that make her more or less suspicious? Maybe its just a coincidence?

 

Can you please:

 

a) Expand on your first point about why the pointless banter makes you suspicious of both DS and CJ; more precisely, why would mafia buddies need distance so obviously, when the mafia is theoretically already in a good position due to the no lynch on day one?

 

b) Describe your thoughts on Talya's vote for LZM, as you're the one who brought up the idea? For example, if Talya is mafia, how does it benefit her? Presumably, she would not nightkill somebody that she thought she could lead a lynch on? If Talya is town, how might this be intended to make her look bad?

 

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Oh, and CJ, I was never trying to make you look scummy. You did that quite well by yourself, but now I have decided that you're probably newbie town.  :)

[Reyoru]

In answer to the first point panda I worry that they are playing at distraction of some sort... On the other Mafia game someone mentioned Kivam gambit, which from what I understand is a ploy that involves two Mafia attacking each other in the hope that if one of them gets lynched the other gets away Scott free and away from suspicion. Its a possibility. As for the second part about distance, I honestly don't understand. Are you referring to something they were arguing about? If you were I wouldn't know, I haven't read through they're whole dialogue just got the gist that they were making a big deal out of nothing.

And as for Talya's vote on LZM I don't what to think. If she's Mafia then maybe she voted for LZM so that when she Nked him (not accusing you hun :)) it would draw suspicion away from her because an outsider would look and think:"if she's Mafia whyd she bother voting for a lynch I.e. A legal killing?) if she was Mafia she would just NK"

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I am not arguing anymore.

 

When I said mindless bandwagon anyone, I was referring to CJ. Meaning how quickly he jumped on the Talya bandwagon.

 

The reason I thought I was going to be nk is because I have been running on a streak of not making it to day 2.

[CJSG92]

well arguing IS defensive, which, like i said, makes me look scummy.  hence me not arguing with DS anymore.  i wasn't seriously blaming pandy for my Talya vote.  just like my saying i'm a "mindless townie", it was just a joke.  for me, day 1 is when we all mess around and end up (hopefully) lynching someone random, and day 2+ is when we get serious, so i was just having fun with my votes and not really thinking about what i saying and how it would come across.  i had no idea that people would take everything i say as being so scummy, cause the only other game i was in i WAS mafia, and so i watched what i said like a hawk.  since i'm townie, i wasn't being careful.  :(

 

and DS, i seem to remember that you survived quite well in the Haunted House Mafia game...

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

I modded that game.

[CJSG92]

yes, i am quite aware, DS  ;)  i DID participate in that particular game.

[CJSG92]

sorry, i just reread my post and realized that it probably sounded somewhat rude and sarcastic.  i was intending it to come across as joking/teasing, but i guess it didn't really work out how i intended...oops.  :-\

[Jeran]

CJ (2) (DS, Crusher)

DS (2) (pandy, CJ)

 

Not Voting:

 

(mcs, Rey, Jelly, Talya)

 

With 8 players it takes 5 votes to lynch.  The Deadline is Monday at 10:00 PM EST.

[Talya]

Okay I'm going to go with my gut here...

 

[glow=red,2,300]Dragon[/glow]

[Reyoru]

Im going with [glow=red,2,300]Dragon[/glow]. I feel that CJ might just have misunderstood.

[Jeran]

DS (4) (pandy, CJ, Talya, Reyoru)

CJ (3) (DS, Crusher, Jelly)

 

Not Voting:

 

(mcs)

 

With 8 players it takes 5 votes to lynch.  The Deadline is Monday at 10:00 PM EST.

[Guest dragonsworn1991]

Im going with [glow=red,2,300]Dragon[/glow]. I feel that CJ might just have misunderstood.

 

So if CJ misunderstood, why am I guilty of being scum? I am trying to pick up scummy slips, and I find one, and I look scummy, all I can do is  ::)

[cosmicpanda]

come on, lynch DS already.

[cosmicpanda]

We've got a tight deadline again and I don't want two no-lynches in a row. Do you?

[The Crusher]

A no lynch today is not a very good option.  CJ or Dragon are reasonable lynches. 

 

Cj has brought a lot off attention and appears to me as newbie scum.  Newbie scum always have really good reasons why they do the things they do.  The also make themselves look guiltier when they explain their actions. 

 

Dragon?  Has a very in your face style and I thinks may appear guilty a lot even if he isn't.  I see three possible choices for Dragon.

 

First, he is town and just like myself and two others reads CJ as scum.

 

Second, he is scum and feels CJ is an easy lynch to push.  I do get the feeling Dragon could get someone lynch regardless of their alignment. Especially a new player. I also notice the people who play with him alot feel the same way.

 

Thirdly they are both dirty, I actually pulled this with Doggin aka Kivam the evil wizard on the JN board.  It was my second game first game as mafia and I attacked him got him voted and he and I walked easily to a scum win. 

 

If we get closer to deadline I could change but I want to read thru one more time during lunch today.