DSage Presents: Heroes vs Villains Mafia - GAME OVER, HEROES WIN!!!!

[mnwhiterose]

Okay - I am the roleblocker. I blocked (in order) - Nae, Pale, Crusher, and Verbal.

 

As for why I jumped out and claimed innocent, Smash was listing all the known innocents, though he also included himself without a verification from the Finder. I thought I would throw my own innocent status into the ring.

[peacesells]

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote vote smash[/glow]

[Smash]

Peace, you of all people do not want to Lynch me since Im the one who extended your game. Not only that but Im still pretty important to the town and Ill just leave it at that. 

 

Im going to [glow=red,2,300]unvote Rose [/glow] and [glow=red,2,300]Vote Talya[/glow]. I named the inactives and Talya made a case aganist rose. Rose revealed and Talya changed her vote to me, claiming I jumped on too quick. If you look at the voting history you will see that Im pretty much Innocent, unless of course you think I just decided to make cases then proceed to vote off my Irregular Teammates.How much sense does that make ? Maybe good strategy late in the game in desparation but not early on.

 

With Rose and myself now revealing, both of Talyas votes went on Innocents making her odds of choice pretty bad or a very calculating Villian.I'll go with the latter until I hear from Talya.

[Talya]

It has happened many times when fellow mafia players vote off their own to look good. Even on the first day. So that doesn't mean much these days. If ou had read what I said, I pointed out my reason for voting for Rose at the time. And it was her statement on suddenly coming in when not been on a t all and had to say she was innocent. When she soft revealed I actually thought she had another role, but thought that as she had a role and that we had the time to spare to have her checked out. You jumped on pretty quick on my vote with no reason apart from getting rid of the inactives, it looked like you were all too willing to say about the inactives but weren't willing to put you money where your mouth was until someone else had started things off.

 

If you have what you say you have I will [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] and I'll need to check someone else out.

[mmeeshal]

Actually, I never had much to build a case with but one of my top suspects, THE top suspect, actually, has been Talya for a while.

 

She voted after the hammer vote twice on two lynches, I think, which isn't like uber-suspicious but it's a weird coincidence, if it is indeed coincidence.  After the lynch on Pandy, she said she'd wished Lily and I had been on the bandwagon vote so we could narrow down who was mafia on the vote.  But that doesn't really make sense, because first of all, the main reason for voting Pandy was to prove that we weren't lying about the Brotherhood of Order, and secondly, that would've been 3 people less to who had to vote for Pandy to be lynched, meaning the mafia could've avoided voting at all.  It wasn't a huge logic fail or anything on Talya's part, but it did catch my eye because it just didn't make any sense.  No real good, nothing helpful, would've come from Lily and I voting our teammate.

And now, with this whole Rose thing...  She wanted to go after semi actives, this late in the game. She had a decent case against Rose, but Rose softclaimed and Talya backed off right away.  Which probably means that Talya knew Rose wasn't lying, or else didn't really have a reason to vote her in the first place.  She said she'd "unvote for now" but then double-posts and jumps on Smash because he joined her lynch vote on Rose and is also not leading a lynch like he has before.

 

Like I said, not really a super-solid case, but those are the reasons I'm suspicious of her, and I'll actually join the [glow=red,2,300]Talya[/glow] lynch.

 

But I don't like that Peace is just jumping on every lynch vote that starts.  Talya's reasoning against Smash was pretty thin, but Peace jumped right on that.  He's the finder, but I wonder if he had an allegiance change when he was resurrected or whatever.

 

 

Having a bunch of people that aren't/weren't very active makes discovering scum hard.  :-\

[Talya]

Actually I did it once and that was the Peace lynch.

 

I have looked at the list and this is what I have:

 

If we go by what people have said...

 

Smash - Resurrected Peace, difficult to lie about that one.

Meesh  - Miller

Rose - Roleblocker (though this can be a mafia role as well as a town role)

Peace - Finder

 

Me - Well I know I'm innocent but I guess that won't wash with any of you. I can't say much else really.

 

The rest

 

Pale

Verb

MCS

 

Having a quick look through I have come up with a couple of things..

 

day 1 Pale votes Led, then mcs jumps on. At the time this stopped Thorum being lynched. or at least helped towards it. Verb didn't vote anyone.

 

day 2 mcs didn't vote, Pale unvoted and wasn't on anyone and verb went from Meesh to Pandy.

 

Day 3 only Verb voted Thorum neither Pale not mcs did.

 

Day 4 Only verb voted for Dragon.

 

neither mcs not Pale voted for Thorum at anytime, and infact thier voting Led made Led lynched. Now if there were two mafia teams this would make sense. What is the point of jumping on one of your team mates to stop one getting lynched?

 

MCS was the first to bring up about there being the possibilities of having two teams. If there were it would explain the votes on Led (especially if Mcs was mafia, he wouldn't have known about Led, but kept off Thorum)

 

Verb voted on Thorum and Dragon, he could easily have been making himself distance from the mafia and when the votes on Day 1 was for both Led and Thorum he didn't vote at all. But then it was day 1 it doesn't look so suspicious not voting at all. But to not vote when the lynches looked immeniant it's best to jump on the mafia colleague.

 

If there are two teams I think it is more likely to be mcs or Pale, if there is one then more than likely Verb.

 

My only other thought is Meesh. She could well have been on the miller team but not actually a miller. She has two votes and yet no one has tried to kill her, at least not as far as we know. But that is just a far fetched thought. But last time I had one I brushed it aside and it was true.

 

However I think I will go with [glow=red,2,300]Verb[/glow] this time

[Talya]

Oh and Meesh, the only reason I said about you being on the vote would reduce the number of those mafia that would have jumped on an easy lynch. Doesn't matter the reason for the vote, it would have been used by mafia to get someone out of the way and they then used their kill on Lily if I'm right. So two of the three revealled have been killed. Which helps them!

 

How can I have a decent case against Rose, but you accuse me of going after semi actives late in the game, and then say I unvoted because I felt it wasn't a good claim. Which is it, because it can't be both. I have explained that, I actually thought she was the healer when she revealed, which is why I didn't want her to actually say it.

 

 

[Smash]

Okay - I am the roleblocker. I blocked (in order) - Nae, Pale, Crusher, and Verbal.

 

As for why I jumped out and claimed innocent, Smash was listing all the known innocents, though he also included himself without a verification from the Finder. I thought I would throw my own innocent status into the ring.

WHile making a case and naming known innocents I see no reason why the person making the case should'nt claim innocence, it makes total sense. But When you just claim Innocence for the hell of it thats when it becomes suspicious. Thats why I voted for you Rose. Right now I think Im keeping my vote on Talya because it seems to me shes trying to get people to role claim so she can pick them off as needed or in order of importance. The only reason I say this is because her explanations have been weak at best and shes voted for 3 people within a few hours time. Thats not the way innocents act, not in the least.

[mmeeshal]

How can I have a decent case against Rose, but you accuse me of going after semi actives late in the game, and then say I unvoted because I felt it wasn't a good claim. Which is it, because it can't be both. I have explained that, I actually thought she was the healer when she revealed, which is why I didn't want her to actually say it.

I said decent, not good.  "Decent" to me means "it holds water."  Or, "it'll do."  Basically, it wasn't a wacky way-out-there case, and it wasn't totally weak, it was just passable.  Average.  Mediocre.

Yes, I said you wanted to go after semi-actives late in the game.  I don't agree with it.  I would've voted for Rose to get a lynch, if it came to it, or if she hadn't had anything better than a soft claim to say.  I wouldn't have voted for her based on her being the most suspicious SEMI ACTIVE.  It was a good enough reason overall, yes.  Not enough for me to say it's silly, yes, but not anything that I agreed with.

And then you say I said you unvoted because you felt "it wasn't a good claim."  I think you're misunderstanding what I said.  I NEVER said you thought it "wasn't a good claim." 

I DID say: "She had a decent case against Rose, but Rose softclaimed and Talya backed off right away.  Which probably means that Talya knew Rose wasn't lying, or else didn't really have a reason to vote her in the first place."

 

What I meant by "didn't really have a reason to vote her in the first place" was that you didn't actually suspect her, but she acted suspicious enough that you were able to build a case against her to mislead the town.  This is, of course, only if you're scum.

I fail to see any contradictions in my post.

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You know, I still don't really understand what your point is about if Lily and I had both voted for Pandy, I really can't get what you're trying to communicate, but if I haven't understood it yet, I'm probably not going to, so it's best just to leave that alone.

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After looking at who Rose said she blocked, I find it possible that Verb is the last Irregular; I was suspicious of him at one point, and if Rose blocked him last night and he had inherited the NK, then that would explain the no-kill night.

 

Hm...I don't like making long posts on different topics, it's irritating. :D

 

Anyway, I don't think there are two mafia teams, at least not based on people not voting for Thorum and voting for Zep instead.  Because they were both of the Irregulars team.  I think there very well may be a cult, however, but that's beside the point of this paragraph/section.

 

You bring up very good points about Verbal, Talya.  When I first got into it with Pete, right after his grandmother died, Day 2 I think it was, Verbal did a bit of distancing by claiming that Pete was looking scummier and scummier every time Verb reread our interaction (because Pete kept trying to say that we were done, no more night kills from the mafia, and I disagreed).  I can't recall if he followed it up with a vote or not.  I think not being willing to go back through the thread is hurting me this game, tbh. >.>

Hm, anyway...

 

Bah, I need to get up and walk around some; my brain's not working.  >.<

 

I can see myself staying on Talya OR switching to Verb, but I don't know which one I honestly feel is more likely to be scum.  My gut's not really helping me today.

[Talya]

Okay - I am the roleblocker. I blocked (in order) - Nae, Pale, Crusher, and Verbal.

 

As for why I jumped out and claimed innocent, Smash was listing all the known innocents, though he also included himself without a verification from the Finder. I thought I would throw my own innocent status into the ring.

WHile making a case and naming known innocents I see no reason why the person making the case should'nt claim innocence, it makes total sense. But When you just claim Innocence for the hell of it thats when it becomes suspicious. Thats why I voted for you Rose. Right now I think Im keeping my vote on Talya because it seems to me shes trying to get people to role claim so she can pick them off as needed or in order of importance. The only reason I say this is because her explanations have been weak at best and shes voted for 3 people within a few hours time. Thats not the way innocents act, not in the least.

 

Tell me how do innocents vote then, because I can't remember seeing any rules about it. So saying that is rather silly. I am innocent and I was voting like that, so you are wrong.

 

Meesh i think if there were two mafia teams they would both say irregular, Unless they were different like vampires and werewolves. I have been in games where there has been no distinction, take DPR's game for instance!

 

If you want to go ahead and vote, carry on. you'll be the ones with egg on your face and you won't get much infp, becuse no one else seems to be bothered in coming in and taking part in this.

 

[Verbal32]

Meesh, that's a good point about Rose stating she blocked me last night.  If you think about it, it would be a perfect way to frame somebody (if Rose is mafia).  She knows I'm innocent, and says she blocked me last night and that's why there was no NK.

 

But when you say I was distancing myself from Pete, that's baloney.  I hadn't even been arguing with him - what reason would I have to "distance" myself?  If we had been getting along on thread, then maybe I can see your point, but not in this case.

 

Either way, the case being made against me could easily be switched onto any unknown player right now.

 

 

Day 3 only Verb voted Thorum neither Pale not mcs did

 

Why again are you gunning for me now, Talya?  I'm surprised you didn't go for any of these, considering in your shoes I would think them more suspicious than me.  Hmm.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Talya[/glow]

[peacesells]

[glow=red,2,300]unvote vote talya[/glow]

[Talya]

It was a choice between you and the other two. Though I have had a though about why they would go after one mafia and not the other on day 1. If thorum was the false messiah and came up not guilty when viewed he would be better to keep around. They must have had another kill otherwise they wouldn't have got rid of Led. If that was the case then they could be just as likely as you Verb.

 

Though the way it is going it looks like I'm a goner. Which is a shame, I do have a role but one I can't tell you until I have used it, and I haven't yet, if I told you I would lose it. Thats all I can say on it, not that you would believe me. But looking at it I would say that everyone has a role of some sort.

 

After I'm lynched I would look first at Pale and then mcs, though not sure which one, but it may just be coincidence that Pale was blocked on day 2

 

So I will go with him. yeah I'm swapping my vote again, so uninnocent of me ::)

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote

 

Pale[/glow]

 

good to see that you aren't going for the inactives, or semi ones because that is where they are likely to be, unless it is with Meesh, she has 2 votes and yet she isn't dead yet...why?

[Smash]

It was a choice between you and the other two. Though I have had a though about why they would go after one mafia and not the other on day 1. If thorum was the false messiah and came up not guilty when viewed he would be better to keep around. They must have had another kill otherwise they wouldn't have got rid of Led. If that was the case then they could be just as likely as you Verb.

 

Though the way it is going it looks like I'm a goner. Which is a shame, I do have a role but one I can't tell you until I have used it, and I haven't yet, if I told you I would lose it. Thats all I can say on it, not that you would believe me. But looking at it I would say that everyone has a role of some sort.

 

After I'm lynched I would look first at Pale and then mcs, though not sure which one, but it may just be coincidence that Pale was blocked on day 2

 

So I will go with him. yeah I'm swapping my vote again, so uninnocent of me ::)

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote

 

Pale[/glow]

 

good to see that you aren't going for the inactives, or semi ones because that is where they are likely to be, unless it is with Meesh, she has 2 votes and yet she isn't dead yet...why?

Talya you have 5 votes might as well tell us the role :p

[Talya]

I can turn a mafia into an innocent. But I have the role only once and then thats it. But I will have lost that now. I waited so that I could narrow down the people who are left. I would have gone for Pale and if he wasn't mafia tried to get mcs tonight turned innocent.

 

But you have lost that now either way!

[Smash]

1. dragonsworn1991 - Mageddon, Irregular, Day Killer turned Night Killer - Lynched Day 4

2. cosmicpanda - Cerise, Brotherhood of Order, Bomb - Lynched Day 2

3. mmeeshal

4. peacesells - Captain Ultra, Hero, Finder - Bomb Killed Day 2 - Revived Night 3

5. Thorum - Qwsp, Irregular Leader, False Messiah - Lynched Day 3

6. Pale Merlot

7. Talya - Lynched ?

8. mcs0083

9. Verbal32

10. mnwhiterose

11. LedZepMan - Calendar Man, Irregular, Night Killer - Lynched Day 1

12. Crusher - Aztek, Hero, Hunter - Killed Day 4

13. Smash

14. Naeann - The Jester, Jester - Day Killed Day 2

15. LilyElizabeth - Dart, Brotherhood of Order, Manipulator - Killed Night 3

 

 

 

If Talya is Lynched and innocent with Meesh,Peace,Smash, Rose  all claiming a role with no counters I think the Investigation should be on Verbal tonight if verbal comes up innocent the vote should be on Pale or mcs the following day.

 

If talya is Irregular the game very well may be over.

[peacesells]

I will be following no ones suggestions on who to investigate.  Please stop offering them.

[Smash]

Peace is that your investigation ?

 

No..it's pretty evident in the death scene.

So if that was not your investigation last night then what was ? It would surely help us narrow things down.

[Smash]

I will be following no ones suggestions on who to investigate.  Please stop offering them.

Whomever you choose to investiagte will ultimately be your call so no one will know anyhow. Asking people not to suggest ideas is foolish because something might come up you have not thought of or someone might say something that draws your suspicion.

[peacesells]

I will be following no ones suggestions on who to investigate.  Please stop offering them.

Whomever you choose to investiagte will ultimately be your call so no one will know anyhow. Asking people not to suggest ideas is foolish because something might come up you have not thought of or someone might say something that draws your suspicion.

 

And may also ruin plans I already have. 

 

I will not reveal known innocents yet..unless they are about to be lynched.  I'm hoping one more night will allow me to reveal.

[a pale tanned lover]

Sorry haven't been on due to computer been broken.

 

Will have to catch up with the game, but have a lot of catching up too do everywhere.

[mmeeshal]

Huh, went back and checked the deadline and whaddya know, it was Thursday the 5th. >.>

 

Anyway, now we wait for Mod to show up.  I'll poke him to come on to give us the results, just in case he wasn't planning on it already.

[Toy and Minion]

I had a busy last few days.  On the plus side, I might be getting a job as early as Tuesday! ;D

 

Post Count

 

Talya (5): Smash, mmeeshal, Verbal, peacesells

 

Pale Merlot (1): Talya

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

 

 

 

Results forthcoming...

 

[Toy and Minion]

DAY FIVE

 

Time: 9:02 AM (SFT) – 11:00 PM (SFT)

 

As the remaining survivors gather around to discuss the next victim, it occurs to you that with so few alive it is all almost over.  Whether the Heroes win or the Villains do; this hell is almost over.

 

The day starts out quite actively.  In a rare turn of events, a few people reveal, somewhat, who they are.  Or at least, who they want you to think they are.  You know very well that it would be all too easy for a Villain to try and pass themselves off as a Hero.  In fact, the only one you seem sure of is Peacesells.  Or rather, Captain Ultra.  It amazes you, what happened.

 

Cosmicpanda closes his eyes and nods slowly.  Without warning he lifts his hands and points his open palms at Peacesells.  A faint red glow surrounds Cosmicpanda’s hands and a beam shoots out from between them, cutting through Peacesells like a knife through warm butter.

 

Capatain Ultra had died then, on the second day.  If you hadn’t seen what had happened on the third night, you wouldn’t have believed it.

 

You see a faint light and move towards it.  You see others doing the same, but pay them no mind.  You come to the body of Captain Ultra.  He had a hole in his chest, you knew, the wound cauterized instantly.  You knew about the hole, but could not see it.  A light blocked your view.  You watch, not knowing what else to do.  Then the light fades and reveals the hole once more.  Only, there is no hole.

 

Captain Ultra begins to cough and gulps in air like a dying man gulps water.  The coughs subside and he begins to breath normally again.  He slowly gets to his feet.

 

You shake your head in amazement.  Whatever had happened, he had been revived.  That should have been enough.  But you knew as well that that alone made him suspect.  Why?  Why him and no other?  You trusted him as much as you could.  But now was not the time for taking chances.

 

Eventually, Talya becomes the prime suspect.  Already, she has the majority.  Still, no one comes foreword to do the dirty deed.  Seemingly days pass by before Captain Ultra (peacesells) takes the job.

 

Talya claims to be able to turn a Villain into a Hero, but everyone is deaf to her pleas.  The rope goes taught, body hanging limp.  Once again, the red haze takes you and leaves. You take one look upon the body before turning and walking back toward your place of rest, or unrest.

 

A sound halts you in your steps, however.  You turn around to see Mcs.  He has his hands gripping either side of his head as if trying to get them to meet.  He seems to be growling

 

“No!” He suddenly shouts.  “No more!  I can’t take this!”  And with that, he takes off running.  Headfirst into a concrete wall.  He falls over dead.

 

You gasp as the red haze takes over.  You close your eyes and take a deep breath before turning once again toward your shelter.

 

Another sleepless night.

 

Gambit (Talya), Hero, Recruiter, has been Lynched.

 

 

Baldar the Brave (mcs), Brotherhood of Order, Defender, has been Modkilled for inactivity.

 

 

It is now Night 5.

 

Not placing a deadline this time.  Just get your Night Actions in ASAP.

 

Note: I almost Modkilled Pale, but he arrived before I did, so I'm cutting him a little slack.  But it's the last time.

[cosmicpanda]

*bump since this thread is underneath lots of threads*