Dirty Cops Mafia - GAME OVER!!!

[Talya]

I have to admit I made a complete mess up of that vote. I literally had a few moments to post a name and went for Mynd as his was the name that stood out in my mind, not for another reason.

[Toy and Minion]

I've also got a question for the mod: are the cop results correct, or are there also mad cops and the like?

 

I'll put it to you this way, not everyone gets the correct result.

 

EDIT: Used the wrong word.  It sounds better now.

[peacesells]

And a last one:

 

Why didn't you vote for Mynd just before the deadline, peacesells? We really needed a lynch. Better an innocent lynch than no lynch, imo.

 

Though you may not believe this till after you've findered me.

 

Because I don't believe Mynd is mafia at this point...

[Thorum]

but with a lynch we would have INFO.

 

Which is all we have in  this game.

[peacesells]

but with a lynch we would have INFO.

 

Which is all we have in  this game.

 

And quite possibly info we don't want.  A wrong lynch could be a power role.  That would be bad for us townees. 

 

You can have no lynch...one person dies at night and our power roles do their job.

 

You can have a lynch and 2 townees die.

 

You can have a lynch and a mafia and 1 townee dies.

 

The problem is the odds aren't all weighted the same...there is a greater chance of lynching a townee than a mafia...so I'd be happy with no lynch that lynching someone for the sake of lynching.

[Talya]

No lynch is usually only useful towards the end of the game. This means we move into day 2 with little or no information because we can't look at the voting patterns comparing them with the result of the lynch. So we are a day down without information. So thats why it could be important.

 

If someone has a powerful role then if they were close to getting lynched they would have revealed it. Doesn't mean we should believe them right out, but we wait for counter claims and we have that information to go on! If they don't role reveal before getting lynched, then they should pay more attention to the game.. :-\

[peacesells]

No lynch is usually only useful towards the end of the game. This means we move into day 2 with little or no information because we can't look at the voting patterns comparing them with the result of the lynch. So we are a day down without information. So thats why it could be important.

 

If someone has a powerful role then if they were close to getting lynched they would have revealed it. Doesn't mean we should believe them right out, but we wait for counter claims and we have that information to go on! If they don't role reveal before getting lynched, then they should pay more attention to the game.. :-\

 

I could see that point if there was no voting action..but this game has tons of voting action to gleam info from...so you get the best of both worlds, reduced risk of 2 townees dead plus lots of info.

[Thorum]

but with a lynch we would have INFO.

 

Which is all we have in  this game.

 

And quite possibly info we don't want.  A wrong lynch could be a power role.  That would be bad for us townees.   

 

Which he would have said long ago.

 

Even from a townie lynch you learn things: you  can trust everything he said.

[Talya]

We don't get much from the voting because no one was lynched thus we don't know their alignment and it is from that you can get voting patterns. Then later on i n the game you can look back and see patterns and it will be more helpful to have that information.

 

 

[Myndrunner]

Whew! I thought I was done.....*rubs lucky wabbits foot*

 

Thorum and Talya, not necessarily.  This is not your normal mafia, as many of us know by our special roles.  The way I understand it, we are all finders, but only one of us is allowed to post his/her results based on our vote.  I find it odd that the two of you are still stuck thinking that this is a normal mafia game...when we all have special roles. 

 

....maybe that's because you both are mafia, perhaps?  If you were not mafia, then you both would know we all are finders.  I find that very interesting....

[Thorum]

Well, OF COURSE we are all finders.

 

- it's called "Dirty Cops Mafia"

- we had confirmation from DSage when he answered my question about this. Okay, it was not litterally "are we all finders", but it sums up to the same thing.

[CUBAREY]

Even from a townie lynch you learn things: you  can trust everything he said.

 

This early in the game? All you could trust about a lynched good cop is that he was a good cop, as he himself would have very little to go on to accuse anyone else or clear somebody of suspicion.

[Myndrunner]

Wait a minute, Thorum....why not believe what I say because it makes sense?  If I tell you that the world is round, are you gonna doubt me until I am lynched and proven to be innocent?  Or are you gonna think that maybe the world is flat and I am telling you its round to fulfill my own scummish plot?

 

Logic is still logic, no matter who you hear it from. 

[Talya]

Mynd, I know very well this isn't a normal game! Please give me some credit. But what I said still goes. We get the alignment of the person when they die, so it helps.  ::)

 

Just because a towny is lynched doesn't mean what they say is the truth, it is just what they think, or their suspicions. But you can look at what they say and with other stuff posted may help finger a Mafia!

[Myndrunner]

Talya, you are a very intelligent player....but lynching innocents is exactly what the mafia want us to do.  We need to be looking for ways to find out who the mafia are with the lowest possible body count.  In a game like this, we should be using our findings to our advantage. 

 

I find yours and Thorum's actions this game incredibly suspicious.  You first caught my eye when you defended mcs here (link) when you didn't need to.  Noob or not, he is able to answer the question himself yet you felt compelled to answer for him. 

 

All metagaming aside, It makes sense that DSage would put at least one of the newbie players in with the mafia, so that the more experienced players could coach them, much like you seemed to be doing to MCS in this game. 

 

Of course, we'll have to see what my finding returns tonight. 

[cosmicpanda]

but with a lynch we would have INFO.

 

Which is all we have in  this game.

 

And quite possibly info we don't want.  A wrong lynch could be a power role.  That would be bad for us townees.   

 

You can have no lynch...one person dies at night and our power roles do their job.

 

You can have a lynch and 2 townees die.

 

You can have a lynch and a mafia and 1 townee dies.

 

The problem is the odds aren't all weighted the same...there is a greater chance of lynching a townee than a mafia...so I'd be happy with no lynch that lynching someone for the sake of lynching.

 

If we never lynch anybody, we'll never lynch any mafia.

 

If we only lynch townies, it will eventually get to a stage where it is much easier to find the mafia.

 

[peacesells]

but with a lynch we would have INFO.

 

Which is all we have in  this game.

 

And quite possibly info we don't want.  A wrong lynch could be a power role.  That would be bad for us townees.   

 

You can have no lynch...one person dies at night and our power roles do their job.

 

You can have a lynch and 2 townees die.

 

You can have a lynch and a mafia and 1 townee dies.

 

The problem is the odds aren't all weighted the same...there is a greater chance of lynching a townee than a mafia...so I'd be happy with no lynch that lynching someone for the sake of lynching.

 

If we never lynch anybody, we'll never lynch any mafia.

 

If we only lynch townies, it will eventually get to a stage where it is much easier to find the mafia.

 

 

This is day one...who said we'll never lynch anyone. Get a little perspective here. 

[cosmicpanda]

A no-lynch, which you seemed to be advocating, equals not lynching anybody...

[Myndrunner]

Hopefully, one of us gets a Mafia read tonight....and we won't have to worry about it.

[Verbal32]

Geesh...you people really banged on the keyboards since yesterday afternoon, lol.

 

To answer something previously said about me:

 

No, I don't have a vendetta against Mynd.  Barm, you said my argument was "reasonable", but then question me?  That doesn't make sense to me....I'm not reading other posts?  Of course I am....I just voted for the person who was most likely to be mafia in my opinion.

 

And if somebody gets a mafia read, unfortunately it doesn't mean they are correct.  DSage said there would be wrong answers...

[Myndrunner]

Arrrgh! I should have finded myself, but now its too late!!  Verbal is right, some of us could be paranoid, naive, or crazy cops.  If anyone hasn't submitted their finding just yet, find yourself so that you can have a better idea which way you are.  I'll find myself on Night 2 if I am still alive. 

 

*facepalm*

[CUBAREY]

Doesn't mean we should believe them right out, but we wait for counter claims and we have that information to go on! If they don't role reveal before getting lynched, then they should pay more attention to the game..

 

So under you're reasoning the best that can be said for Mynd and Danya are that they are innocent townie's without any special powers?

So they would be the least useful townie's  (or dirty cops) so are you suggesting lynching either one of them on the second day and the other on the third?

[Verbal32]

CUBAREY, I'm not trying to be a pain here, but could you use the quote function instead of the bolding?  Information is key here, and we can better see who or what you are referring to when you actually quote them.  Thanks!

[Toy and Minion]

For the Newbies:  No copying PM's given to you by me concerning this game in ANY form (including snapshots).

 

I hope you all can see why I didn't want Newbies.  :P

[CUBAREY]

If someone has a powerful role then if they were close to getting lynched they would have revealed it. Doesn't mean we should believe them right out, but we wait for counter claims and we have that information to go on! If they don't role reveal before getting lynched, then they should pay more attention to the game.. :-\

 

Better?