Create-a-Role Mafia Game Thread: Game Over!

[Barmacral]

Err... you say it like this is a bad thing, only good that'll come of your plan of the healer claiming is a dead healer in the night. But that would be great for you mafia, wouldn't it.

[cosmicpanda]

Vote Count No. 17

 

Vote Count:

 

 

Talya (0)

Danya (0)

Barmy (0)

Mynd (0)

DJ (1) - DPR

DPR (2) - DJ, Barm

 

Not voting - Danya, Talya, Mynd

 

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

 

 

Just a little bit of mod reassurance since my last comment seemed to cause consternation: Everybody can still win. It just takes the right lynch and perhaps a bit of luck.

[Myndrunner]

So now that everyone is done squirming and grand standing, can we get on with this?  DJ says DPR is scum.  What do you normally do when the Finder says XXXX is scum? 

 

Exactly!

 

[glow=red,2,300]DPR[/glow]

 

Do you all want to live forever? 

[DPR]

 

This is ridiculous.

 

If there was a healer, they would have revealed, I would be lynched, and the innocents would either hav won or be facing 5 to 1 odds.

 

You guys botched your play somehow and now we are watching an awkward tap dance. unbelievable -

[Myndrunner]

Well DPR....there is (and has been) a solution.  We could all reveal the roles we submitted to the Mod and compare them to our current roles.

 

I'll go out on a limb here......since its pretty much endgame.

 

I am the Shady Vigilante (thats what the role was called, not a quote).  Each night, I have to submit a name for a Night Kill, but I only have a 50/50 chance at being successful. I win when all threats to the town are gone (again, paraphrasing so as not to quote).  There is also a 50/50 chance that any finding on me would return as a random role. 

 

I am not sure which one of you sent this role in, or how much of it had been tweaked by the mod, but there it is.  All out on the table for everyone to see.  If after we kill DPR and the game doesn't end, then I am thinking that Talya, Barm, or Danya are likely the other mafia. 

 

Since no one has blown up yet, I am sure one of you is the Flaming Pumpkin that I sent in.  This is likely an innocent role though.  Which one of you is this?  You should tell us now so we don't accidentally lynch you or I don't NK you by accident tonight if the game isn't over. 

[DPR]

 

There are so many problems with this that I don't even know where to start-

 

1. Anyone could say anything. Obviously.

2. The idea of a mass reveal based on group trust after the mod has warned us not to trust each other.

3. The way you describe your nightkills, it sounds like you are either mafia or the serial killer.

4. I'll have to look back to be sure, but I don't remember any double night kills that would prove your claim.

5. And why in the world would you blindly support a finder if you knew that your own finding would only have a 50/50 chance of accuracy.

 

I really don't know what you think you are going to accomplish with this, but thanks for pointing out that our "finder" (who lives by being healed even though no healer has revealed to confirm and wrap the game up) has a 50% chance of viewing you incorrectly. I can totally see why you would want to believe him...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Barmacral]

The role I submitted is a vote stealer. The person gets to steal someone's vote each day and use it how they will. I believe it is still in the game, and I'm almost positive that a member of the mafia has it.

[Myndrunner]

The role I submitted is a vote stealer. The person gets to steal someone's vote each day and use it how they will. I believe it is still in the game, and I'm almost positive that a member of the mafia has it.

 

Very interesting Barm, because SOMEONE here does have an extra vote.  Notice how Moggy went down with less than the required votes for lynch?  I had also dismissed your Miller role deal as a lie until we uncovered that there was a vote giver....but it is very possible that the vote stealer put the nail in your premature coffin. 

 

Since I dont have this role, and you don't have it, and DJ don't have it....that leaves Danya, Talya, and DPR.  Which one of you three have this role? 

[Talya]

It's certainly not me!

 

 

[Barmacral]

Personally, I'm inclined to think Wes does, because he was so involved in the test idea that you came up with, and because of when he put on his vote to seal the deal.

[DPR]

 

Once again, that all works out really nicely for you.

 

As I mentioned before - anyone can say anything now and use it to try and frame another player.

 

But you didn't mention it before, did you? You didn't point this out when Moggy got lynched or at any point before.

 

And the only reason you mention it now is because it fits so nicely into your latest scheme to lynch me.

 

Seriously, I know that I'm not going to start a bandwagon on DJ. And I know that as the main suspect, I will probably be the one that gets lynched. But the more I can foil your evil little plans, the happier I'll be.

 

I'm not a vote stealer. I'm not mafia. I'm just the player that has tried to point out the things that make the most sense.

 

Now, what else you got? heh 

[Myndrunner]

The best thing you can do for us right now, DPR, is to continue to refuse to reveal.  Or you could use a shovel...that might dig an even deeper hole....maybe.  ;)

 

Roles submitted:

Exploding Pumpkin (Mynd)

Role Stealer (Barm)

 

Roles Claimed:

Shady Vigilante (Mynd)

Clumsy Finder (Dark Justice)

 

Roles Proven by Coroner:

Roleblocking Rainbow Scum/Super Miller (Barm 1)

Innocent Vote Giver (Lia)

Janitor Controller Symp (Hybrid)

Healing Mason (Dae)

Innocent Matchmaker (Moggy)

Nearly Vanilla Townie (Verbal)

 

Someone is a Vote Thief and someone is the Pumpkin Bomb.  DPR could be the Pumpkin Bomb that I submitted and Barm is trying to get us to vote him....or DPR could indeed be the vote thief.  I am convinced that DJ is the clumsy finder and I am convinced that there is more to Danya and Talya than meets the eyes.  Barm, what is your role again?

[Talya]

I have to agree with Wes on this, knowing what the roles are really doesn't help any. Anyone could lie about what they put in and what they have. So what is the point! Who's to say that someone didn't make up those roles, like Barm or even Mynd?! nothing!

 

For a start, who is to say that Barm's Votes stealer wasn't twisted by Pandy and made into the vote giver?

[Dark Justice]

But WES is scum.

[Myndrunner]

This is really coming out of left field, Talya.  I mean, Dark Justice has been correct since he revealed Hybrid as the Mafia Symp.  He cannot reveal who he knows is innocent, but he can certainally reveal who is scum.  He says DPR is scum...so he must be scum.

 

I do find it very interesting that you are against a mass reveal at this point.  What do you have to hide, hmmm?

 

Oh, and DJ....what role did you submit to the mod?

[Dark Justice]

I said it earlier. I gave the controller role Hybrid had.

He got to controll another player for an entire gameday.

whats being said, and votes. through the mod.

[DPR]

Left field? How do you list someone as a clumsy finder and then support their findings?

 

Now we don't even know if the people he found "innocent" are innocent at all.

 

Seriously, you guys are making me crazy. I feel like I'm screaming and everybody is ignoring me!

 

[Dark Justice]

How does people figure im a clumsy finder. Cause I KNOW it aint so.

[Myndrunner]

What I meant by Clumsy Finder is that he makes a lot of noise...so everyone knows hes the finder.  

 

Anyways, I'm really getting uneasy about all of this.  I mean, mafia is never THIS easy.  DJ and Barm are leading us right where they want us to go.  As of yet, NOBODY has admitted to submitting a finder role like the one he claims.  Is there even a finder role at all?  

 

After reading back, I am actually starting to piece things together and I know why DPR doesn't want to reveal.  He is the great pumpkin and lynching him would kill the one who hammers him.  that is why Barm and DJ already have their votes secure on him.  

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

I think DPR is actually right here.  I know this sounds crazy, but I think there is more here than just a simple "WES is SCUM" read. Did anyone submit a role that messes with finder targets?  Did anyone send in a finder role at all like the one DJ is claiming?

 

Suppose DPR is not scum and that the remaining mafia get us to activate his pumpkin role and take another innocent with the lynch on DPR when he explodes?  Then it would be 2 on 2 and they win.  

 

Something is just not right here.....

[Dark Justice]

Ok. I give up. You guys are gonna lose us the game. Why, If you want me to, Ill [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] and take that last vote on WES myself. That is how sure I am. Just make sure you lynch Danya afterwards...

[Myndrunner]

Why Danya?  What do you have to base that on?

[Dark Justice]

well. I dont know if you noticed her statements earlier?

I dont know if you noticed she was defending WES.

I dont know if you noticed I already suspected her?

I seem to remember you voting on her, cause I was.

That was when Moggy died, cause the mafia has that extra vote.

[Barmacral]

Seriously? You hound Wes all game and as soon as you get somebody to agree with you you get cold feet? You know part of the reason that nobody has owned up to DJ's role could very well be because one of the mafia submitted it? Why would they own up to the truth?

[Myndrunner]

Ok, there are three ways to view DJ's deal....

 

1) DJ is telling the truth.  He has read everyone still in play except Danya and therefore is convinced that she and DPR (who he has read) are the two remaining scum.  We should lynch DPR and even if he is the pumpkin, we would still at worst be 3 to 1 the following day.  Lynch Danya and win the game.

 

2) DJ is full of bullshanks.  Odd for his normal mafia play, but I have yet to play in a game with him when he was scum.  No one has claimed to have submitted the finder role and he could be making all this stuff up.  He and Barmy are gung ho about lynching DPR and now he brings up Danya.  If he is Scum, than either Barmy or Talya are scum with him.  

 

3) DJ is telling the truth, but his view has been tainted.  I've created roles in games that I have modded where a player randomizes another player's target.  Suppose such a role exists and DJ's view of DPR was actually a view of someone else who was scum?  This could also help explain why VERBAL died instead of DPR when I targeted him earlier in the game.  I thought it was the mafia's kill and that my kill was either unsuccessful or blocked by a healing....but the only response I got from the mod was PAFO.  

 

There is something else going on here......I want to hear what roles Barm, DJ, and DPR have submitted. 

[Dark Justice]

I have already told what role I submitted.

Why are you only interested in those roles, and not the one Danya submitted??