Create-a-Role Mafia Game Thread: Game Over!

[Barmacral]

I posted then because it was the first thing I checked after I got home from school Talya...

[Dark Justice]

hehe WES. Nicely done. I know there is another healer, and healed me last night. Dont you agree there would have been a kill last night? They tried. But failed. You know this. There was no losk kill due to failing to send it in. This we know because Pandy ended night really fast.

you tried to kill me cause you thought there were no more healers. You were wrong.

 

[Talya]

Then you were the original Mafia and Thorum was the other one. In a game this size I would imagine that one of them could recruit. And who is the best person to recruit is the finder. This happened in a game of mine on the BT.

 

Oh and Barm I saw you on the boards before I posted, this was not the first place you looked at... :P

[DPR]

This is what I know for certain:

 

Dj would live if he were mafia.

 

I know that 2 healers is a game with 12 players and 2 mafia would outweigh it badly towards the innocents side and that would make no sense.  

 

This is what I suspect:

 

DJ threw down his vote on me fast and with no explanation, but then started adding details when he saw how people reacted and what questions they had.

 

It makes it look likes he wanted to get a quick lynch on me, maybe to win the game (as per Pandy's warning) but had to dance a little when people questioned it.

 

 

 

Talya, I'm not following what you are explaining - who recruited who?

 

 

[DPR]

 

Never mind, I got it - and Barms won that game!

 

Barms, did you send that role in so that you could re-live that glory? heh

[Barmacral]

No Talya, I was on at school, where I wasn't checking the game, as soon as I got home this is the first place I checked. It doesn't take long for me to get home from school.

[Talya]

I agree that two healers were going over board, especially when there was only one finder. As they lost their first Mafia on the first day, I think the option was to give up Barm and have the chance to recruit.

 

If I remember right (and please correct me if I'm wrong) Thorum accused DJ after he had found the symp. and had had to reveal. I think he recruited DJ that night and then accused him, then might have chenged his vote. But if Thorum was lynched we all would think he was trying to protect himself by trying to lynch DJ and DJ would be above suspicion

 

I hope that makes sense. I mayb totally wrong. But it makes sense to me.

 

I think we should hear from Mynd and Danya.

 

I still thought it was quick! :)

[Dark Justice]

2 healers in this game makes sense. Cause the symp had a HUGE advantage in his role. I know, I made part of it. The controller part. The Evils have been able to silence, and quite possibly recruit. So I dont see how two healers makes it go too much in our favour. You are mafia.

 

You still have not responded to good reasons for no nightkill, apart from the obvious two healers scenario.

DJ threw down his vote on me fast and with no explanation, but then started adding details when he saw how people reacted and what questions they had.

 

I did the same with the symp. no one questioned it, so I didnt have to explain. He was the symp.

I did it with you. I needed to see your reaction to be sure about my viewing. Now I am sure.

[Dark Justice]

Ill just explain how the controller role worked, before you ask me. The controller got to, one time during the game, to controll another player through the mod for a full gameday.

 

Pandy might have changed it a bit though.

[Barmacral]

I have some thoughts on the game, but first I want to see Danya and Mynd post before I say them... I want to see their reactions to things as they are now.

[MsDanya]

First thing that strikes me is that DJ says he was Healed last night. Which doesnt make sense... why would he know he was healed? Is that common? Or is he both HEaler AND Finder? Overkill much? Or is he just Finder? or just Healer? I thought it was strange in any case. He could be a paranoid cop, but we dont really know until someone he's viewed is dead. Other than that..

 

Talya might be right about recruitment as well.

[Dark Justice]

well, Danya, I know, because I know there is another healer. And Im sure the mafia would want to off me, cause Im the finder. makes sence?

[MsDanya]

A healer who heals the obvious target of a NK is not a very good Healer at all. So no, I know no such thing.

[cosmicpanda]

Vote Count No. 16

 

Vote Count:

 

 

Talya (0)

Danya (0)

Barmy (0)

Mynd (0)

DJ (1) - DPR

DPR (2) - DJ, Barm

 

Not voting - Danya, Talya, Mynd

 

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

[Dark Justice]

wow. Do you actually mean a healer should not heal the finder.  :o

When the mafia thinks there is no more healers, they will go after the finder! Always!

Healing someone else is just crazy..

[Barmacral]

Thankyou Danya, thats exactly what I expected.

 

Here's my suspicions now:

 

DJ - Finder

Wes - Mafia (findered by DJ)

Talya - Innocent, just with her guns aiming the wrong way. She's listening to Wes because she doesn't trust me.

Mynd - Innocent, and has apparantly been gunning the right way the whole game.

Danya - Mafia with Wes, because she is fully supporting him here. If she was innocent she would be on DJ's side. She has also suggested that the healer not heal the finder, which frankly, is one of the the stupidest ideas I've ever heard in mafia. I think she'll agree, once the game is over and her life isn't at stake.

[Barmacral]

Oh, btw, taken from the first post:

 

Healing Mason

 

Role: You are a mason with XXX. Each night, one of you may submit a player to protect at night. You may protect one of yourselves. If one of you dies, the other will still be able to protect at night. At any point in the game, you may communicate in this thread:

 

http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/MVn89fqG7RsHC

 

Do not communicate outside of the game thread or this topic.

 

Barmy is scum.

 

Win Condition: You win with the town: you win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

 

Based on what DJ said, it sounds like this might just be an actual role in the game and not something he made up for the first post.

 

 

[Dark Justice]

You are spot on Barm.

I dont KNOW about Danya, cause I have not viewed her. But that was crazy talk from her.

Ill do that once we get this lynch over with.

[MsDanya]

1. I'm NOT on wes' side, i'vemerely stated my pov here

 

2. I'm not saying the healer shouldnt heal the finder, only that sometimes not healing the obvious target saves someone else. Ever thought thats why there wasnt a NK last night?

The same principle applies to a Mafia in "dont try to NK the Finder because he/She is most liklely being Healed". I see the logic there, strange that no one else does.

 

[Dark Justice]

so. Anyway, Im off for today. I hope you guys have come to your sences and lynched WES when I log in tomorrow.

[DPR]

1. Nobody really thinks that Danya implied that a healer not protect the finder. You two are putting words in her mouth - she was just pointing out that DJ's point was a little too obvious.

 

2. Barm, you know better than to use a "sample pm" as evidence. Pandy may or may not have sent that out, we can't know. But it's ironic that it also works as a great (if obvious) cover for you know.

 

Were you really scum? Should we believe that as well?

 

Do you have any thoughts on why Pandy would have announced that nobody can trust anybody else, or were you just going to ignore that?

 

Your list explains everything nice and tidy, but you leave out any comment on DJ's lame attempt to explain the controller. Neither one of you addresses the recruitment accusation, even though its a good point. You just ignore Talya's point, even after criticizing others for the same.

 

We have a warning from the mod, no players silenced today and false trails leading all over the place. I know its my neck on the line, but you two are trying to push this too fast.

[Talya]

Barm, we have already have had that role on one of our dead players. Dae was the Healer Mason!

 

I think I get what Danya is saying. I know at times when I have been a healer, you decide whether to go with the person that is most likely to be night killed (and in the case probably not targeted as the mafai think they will be saved, ans don't want to waste a kill), or someone else.

 

I won't be around much longer, it's bedtime for me.

[Barmacral]

Actually Danya, you are supporting Wes by casting suspicion on the Finder right off like that, you may not be saying "I support Wes" but its clearly the message we're getting, and its backed by Wes supporting you yesterday.

 

And it makes total sense for the healer to heal the finder last night. Dae died, presumably removing any healers from the game as far as anyone knew (unless they read the first post, which clearly nobody did), so DJ would be a prime target for death last night.

 

A healer who heals the obvious target of a NK is not a very good Healer at all. So no, I know no such thing.

 

See Wes? Not putting words in her mouth, just saying what she stated.

 

As for the recruitment thing, even with recruitment there is a maximum of two mafia in the game right now, as there is 6 players alive, and the game isn't over.

 

Scum win condition: When the numbers of scum equal the numbers of townies' date=' you win.[/quote']

 

Personally, I'm not inclined to believe that anyone has been recruited. I believe if any mafia had been killed it would have been said straight up.

 

Oh and, as far as super miller goes:

 

Setup details:

 

You may appreciate these few snippets of information before the game begins.

 

2 mafia

1 symp

 

1 serial killer

 

8 townies, including a super miller.

 

Taken from Pandy's first post.

 

So while there is the option for recruitment, I do not believe it has happened at this time.

 

Oh and Wes, the sample PM from Pandy's first post fits exactly what DJ has said, so it makes sense to me that it would be real.

 

And Talya: READ THE ROLE AGAIN! The word Mason implies more than one. Only one has died.

[Dark Justice]

the wife is working late, so I got to connect a bit more tonight.

I dont really need to say much though, cause Barmsy has said it all.

You are fighting well WES, Ill give you that. But you just make me more certain, by going out defending Danya, that she also is mafia.

This is good. For us.

 

I just hope Mynd can get online soon, and come with his thoughts.

 

 

[DPR]

 

I was hoping that Mynd would be able to come back on soon as well. But, I've got to shut down for the night, so I'll go ahead a drop the hammer.

 

I made a point earlier to state that no one had been silenced this round. We've all posted.

 

The problem with DJ and Barm's argument is, no one has claimed healer.

 

DJ, you and Barm have put together a bogus scenario. Barm was indeed innocent on day one, and both of you are mafia now.  You just forgot to seal the deal. 

 

I wanted it to be more dramatic, but I gotta go. Nighty night  :-* ;)